[QUOTE=kaze4159;33229258]If I read it right, we have the highest Iron Ore exports of the world[/QUOTE]
Iron and Coal, guess which large Asian nation buys most of it.
You Americans are going to have to bring a hell of a lot of air conditioners with you.
[QUOTE=AWarGuy;33228579]That was THE BRITISH that did the nuclear testing here:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga[/url]
I know about this stuff as my Grandpa was present at the nuclear resting (he was not the latest bombed that fucked over the people stationed there who died of cancer from the radiation. He was mending the cars they had there but he got out about 3 days before the last bomb at Maralinga)
Don't go blaming the US.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, I stand corrected. I was told it was the US by a politics teacher in high school, cheers man.
Am I the only one who doesn't mind this? The Australian Military is laughably small as is, and America is supposed to be one of our key allies...
[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;33228811]
You're pulling that out of your ass. I can tell just by this post that you have no idea how the military's foreign relations and agreements/treaties work.[/QUOTE]
"Expanding militarily into other nations":
[url]http://www.hindustantimes.com/China-mulls-military-bases-in-Pakistan/Article1-502952.aspx[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hs9FI-bp-ej_mwo-HTAa4KBny6EA[/url]
"Threats towards Philippines and Vietnam":
[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/28/china-demands-war/?page=all[/url]
"Every Southeast Asian and Oceanian nation...largest trading partner""
[url]http://www.amazon.com/When-China-Rules-World-Western/dp/1594201854/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321028896&sr=1-1[/url]
"Costs us shittons of money":
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States[/url]
[url]http://www.fpif.org/reports/the_cost_of_the_global_us_military_presence[/url]
[url]http://www.kiplinger.com/columns/washington/archives/overseas-bases-in-budget-crosshairs.html[/url]
[url]http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/2011/01/09/all-bases-covered/[/url]
(note that these do not include costs saved by cutting military action in Afghanistan, drone action in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia, the cost of a smaller military, and any revenue from sales of bases, which would decrease spending signigicantly)
"Save 70% of our budget":
Ok, wrong figure.
"save trillions over a short time span":
See above. You can figure out the figures for yourself. They all show at least 2.5 trillion over a 10-year period.
USA: SELF TITLED WORLD POLICE!
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[QUOTE=DireAvenger;33229122]We have MASSIVE steel and gold industries, and very large deposits of Uranium just sitting around for the taking. Our entire country is practically brimming with rare earths.[/QUOTE]
What about australium deposits?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;33229101]May dad works there. He once had some friends from online over for dinner, and found out their parents were Pine Gap protesters, so he gave them a souvenir Pine Gap shotglass to give them.[/QUOTE]
Wow that's great
I jelly of Pine Gap shot glass
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[QUOTE=JamesRaynor;33229058]Of all places why would china attack AUSTRALIA? It's mostly uninhabited, filled with dangerous animals, has no strategic significance and doesn't have much military power. I'm curious, is the US worried that Australia will need to be 'liberated'?[/QUOTE]
Australia has huge strategic significance.
[quote]At December 2008, Australia had the world’s largest economic resources of brown coal, mineral sands (rutile and zircon), nickel, silver, uranium, zinc and lead. The country also ranks among the top six worldwide for resources of bauxite, black coal, copper, gold, industrial diamond, iron ore, ilmenite, lithium, manganese ore, niobium, tantalum, vanadium and antimony.[/quote]
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[img]http://www.australianrareearths.com/images/alk.gif[/img]
(Also explains one of the reasons why the US has a base in Greenland)
HREOS are pretty much essential for modern civilization
[img]http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2002/fs087-02/images/fig_01.gif[/img]
[img]http://www.australianrareearths.com/images/metals-criticality-index-for-metals-supply-risk.gif[/img]
REE rank highest as mineral raw materials of critical concern, given uncertain future supplies and their importance to advanced industrial economies.
[QUOTE=Averice;33229288]You Americans are going to have to bring a hell of a lot of air conditioners with you.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29]We[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War]have[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Waziristan]experience[/url].
[QUOTE=DireAvenger;33229122]We have MASSIVE steel and gold industries, and very large deposits of Uranium just sitting around for the taking. Our entire country is practically brimming with rare earths.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.wokay.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/President-Obama.jpg[/IMG]
Go on.
This would cause Americans to spend money in Australia, thus being bennifical in the long run for Australia, yes?
[QUOTE=Ardosos;33237123]This would cause Americans to spend money in Australia, thus being bennifical in the long run for Australia, yes?[/QUOTE]
Nope, they wouldn't be able to afford any of the overpriced stuff in our country.
[QUOTE=Contag;33237248]Nope, they wouldn't be able to afford any of the overpriced stuff in our country.[/QUOTE]
But our government is famous for overspending on things, especially when it comes to the military.
Just watch Australia ban military bases.
Just watch them.
[QUOTE=JamesRaynor;33229058]Of all places why would china attack AUSTRALIA? It's mostly uninhabited, filled with dangerous animals, has no strategic significance and doesn't have much military power. I'm curious, is the US worried that Australia will need to be 'liberated'?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JamesRaynor;33229058]no strategic significance[/QUOTE]
What the fuck, man; haven't you ever played Risk?
Am i the only person that finds it interesting the US needs another base near Asia so that they might be able to fix the problems they might get with China that they are the cause of to begin with?
In other words: "Hello we created a problem and asked for your help. Once you can't help me any longer you might become a problem so we need more bases over where you live".
[QUOTE=sami-elite;33246394]Am i the only person that finds it interesting the US needs another base near Asia so that they might be able to fix the problems they might get with China that they are the cause of to begin with?
In other words: "Hello we created a problem and asked for your help. Once you can't help me any longer you might become a problem so we need more bases over where you live".[/QUOTE]Well what would you rather we do? We can't set up a base in say...Vietnam, because you know how oh so well we did towards that war...
Isn't Australia a first world, English speaking, capitalist, democracy that has the same goals as America? If so, then why the fuck are we setting up a base there? Let the Australians be the ones to use their own military and budget.
And what about Japan? Aren't they rich, high GDP, and technologically advanced (at least perceptively because they make a lot robotics and electronics)?
Setting up colonies all of over the world has nothing to do with defending America and is waste of money. I say if this goes through, then Australia should pay America for the extra defense.
[QUOTE=Terragen;33246457]Well what would you rather we do? We can't set up a base in say...Vietnam, because you know how oh so well we did towards that war...[/QUOTE]
There's no alternative really.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;33246699]Isn't Australia a first world, English speaking, capitalist, democracy that has the same goals as America? If so, then why the fuck are we setting up a base there? Let the Australians be the ones to use their own military and budget.
And what about Japan? Aren't they rich, high GDP, and technologically advanced (at least perceptively because they make a lot robotics and electronics)?
Setting up colonies all of over the world has nothing to do with defending America and is waste of money. I say if this goes through, then Australia should pay America for the extra defense.[/QUOTE]
It's not about that, it's about strategic location. The United States has the rare ability to put boots on ground just about anywhere in the world at a moments notice.
For example, if North Korea invaded South Korea, USFK and the ROK Armed Forces will try to hold the line. The US will be able to bring in immediate reinforcements from Japan and Australia, meanwhile bringing in heavier reinforcements from further away places.
[QUOTE=sami-elite;33246930]There's no alternative really.[/QUOTE]Thats what I mean, people may not like it but when our government has something on their mind when it comes to military actions. They usually go through with it. Sadly which is why this country has several issues.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33246977]It's not about that, it's about strategic location. The United States has the rare ability to put boots on ground just about anywhere in the world at a moments notice.
For example, if North Korea invaded South Korea, USFK and the ROK Armed Forces will try to hold the line. The US will be able to bring in immediate reinforcements from Japan and Australia, meanwhile bringing in heavier reinforcements from further away places.[/QUOTE]
Well the point I'm trying to make is that the US shouldn't be putting boots anywhere, especially when its allies are perfectly capable of carrying their fair share of the weight.
I fail to see any problems with this. If anything, stationing soldiers on a cursed and godforsaken continent full of stuff that wants to murder you will produce better soldiers.
Just you wait, give it a few months and all soldiers stationed there will become Rambo.
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;33256454]Just you wait, give it a few months and all soldiers stationed there will become Crocodile Dundee.[/QUOTE]
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