Spain to criminalize file-sharing, crackdown on sites, may outlaw private copying - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Tidusete;40008300]It's a shame we got a government like this. There are high taxes, overcomplicated bureaucracy, widespread corruption[/QUOTE] That's traditionally how Spain has functioned. Every previous colony of Spain has these exact same problems to the extreme, from the Philippines to Latin America. I think it may be connected culturally to Spain. Even if Spain were to have some serious internet censorship I think the people wouldn't mind [especially older voters], they're probably preoccupied with the debt crisis, poverty and corruption.

Lovely, as if Austerity isn't a problem at all.

good luck enforcing it Spain :)

[QUOTE=catbarf;40006057]Since when is attempting to protect your work, when you're a multinational corporation doing business all around the world, attempting to control the Internet? You could frame any law that benefits a corporation as trying to control something 'by corporate interests'. It's a meaningless phrase. The only additional control that corporations are getting here is that the Spanish [I]government[/I] is going to try a little harder to prevent illegal copyright infringement. How horrifying. [/quote] do remember that the US is the country that continually increases the time for a work to fall into public domain, if you think that this is in good faith you're a fool. [quote]Talk about citation needed. Yes, I'm sure you know better than the companies that invested millions upon millions to analyze the effects of piracy before spending millions upon millions more to actually implement these schemes. They just burn money for [I]fun[/I]. [/quote] you're kidding right, you want citations for something that has been repeated adnauseum? [url]http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/news/piracy-doesnt-hurt-online-music-sales-according-to-eu-study[/url] European commission joint research centre says it doesn't, next time try harder. [quote]Does anyone really think a rich CEO woke up one morning, decided that piracy must be bad because it seems bad, and then invested enormous amounts of money to prevent it without even a freaking case study? The investors would have his head on a platter.[/quote] again you're missing the point, this isn't about money, its about CONTROL, it doesn't matter if piracy actually HELPS sales in some cases, by spreading the awareness of a work, they don't like it, because otherwise they might actually have to put some freaking effort into their shit. [quote]Shakespeare didn't have to deal with throngs of morons who could not only distribute his work to millions of people with about five minutes of work and without leaving their homes, but would also come up with all sorts of tortured justifications for why it's really okay.[/quote] just because its easier to pirate nowadays, doesn't means piracy wasn't awfully common, how about you actually check history, you'll see that not only piracy existed, it was awfully widespread. [quote]You don't know the first thing about Chinese business. They're [URL="http://rt.com/business/apple-china-copyright-fine-012/"]just as serious[/URL] [URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/11/us-china-congress-piracy-idUSBRE8AA04620121111"]about copyright infringement[/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_in_China"]as the US[/URL], the difference is that their government is still dealing with absurd corruption and is struggling to get it under control. Of course, if you're holding up Chinese business practices as an example for the US to follow I don't know what to tell you.[/QUOTE] that doesn't mean anything, its PART of the chinese culture, they're highly resistant to the idea of copyrighting an idea, sure the government may pay lip service to it, but that doesn't mean anything, also ffs, the chinese government has been caught stealing technology from companies several times for years, and you're actually suggesting they care about copyright infringement, and you actually have the balls to say i'm the one who doesn't know anything. [url]http://www.japannewstoday.com/?tag=chinese-steal-japanese-high-speed-train-technology[/url] [url]http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2011/09/16/american_superconductor_of_devens_accuses_chinese_firm_of_espionage/[/url]

[QUOTE=catbarf;40006761]Sales of music have been in decline for almost a decade now, while sales to concerts remain fairly static, indicating that demand for music hasn't decreased but revenue from the music itself has. There are plenty of studies indicating this.[/QUOTE] Sales of physical media are going down, but online sales grow every year. Don't bother using the NDP reports, they don't record a lot of online transactions. Also don't forget that many people are skipping the middle man and self-publishing now.

There were already controversy in the past with the old law about closing blogs, forums and sites where the goverment claimed that they were pirates, when a large part of them were about denouncing corruption. And the worst of all if that even the sales of digital content are on rise up, they don´t believe on Internet, claiming that "is not profitable". For example, we lost the possibility of seeing here Netflix because "there were problems with the legality of the published content".

[QUOTE=catbarf;40004372] The changes to the laws aren't to criminalize copying all media, it's to criminalize illegally copying media. [/QUOTE] Read the EULA of pretty much anything and you'll see that copying anything is pretty much illegal. If the media industry had its way the only legal way you could copy something is the media player you chose copying it from storage to RAM in order to play it back. You'd have to buy a new copy for every decide you wanted to use said media on.