Life extension technology? Let's give it to prisoners to make them suffer! - Polidicks

If you want to torture prisoners there are plenty of other methods available already.

[quote]According to their research, prison firms could also develop drugs that make time pass slowly, making an inmate’s sentence feel like an eternity. [/quote] [video=youtube;ry_C3aipo6Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry_C3aipo6Q[/video]

[QUOTE=Cone;44236610]from the comments was among the highest rated and only 28 people disagreed i guess not everyone who reads the daily mail is a fucking serial killer after all[/QUOTE] That's not even the point, though. This makes sense on no level. Firstly, prison is (supposed) to be about rehabilitation, ie getting the prisoner ready to live a normal, crime free life in society. Secondly, a prisoner on a long sentence dying is a pretty "good" thing, it frees up space in the prison and you don't have to spend a fortune keeping someone alive for 1000 years for absolutely no reason.

[QUOTE=Talishmar;44235840]I wonder how this would work as a deterrent, if death penalty doesn't[/QUOTE] Doesn't work? Well, if it causes the people executed to be considered martyrs, wouldn't it make all the people willing to join their cause eventually get removed, purging all the enemies?

i just want digital mind interfaces so i can do mgs2 vr missions (and maybe mgs2 as a whole but who knows???)

This sounds like some I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream type shit

What a brilliant idea; commit abhorrent cruelty for petty revenge [I]and[/I] significantly worsen prison overcrowding at the same time!

[QUOTE=chaz13;44236718]That's not even the point, though. This makes sense on no level. Firstly, prison is (supposed) to be about rehabilitation, ie getting the prisoner ready to live a normal, crime free life in society. Secondly, a prisoner on a long sentence dying is a pretty "good" thing, it frees up space in the prison and you don't have to spend a fortune keeping someone alive for 1000 years for absolutely no reason.[/QUOTE] yeah but my point is that a lot of daily mail readers are recognizing that this is a bad idea, which is kind of newsworthy in itself [editline]14th March[/editline] a daily mail reader taking the least psychopathic option is basically the same as a psychopath taking the least psychopathic option

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;44235481]This is quite literally ripped from Bleach. [sp]Kurotsuchi Mayuri used the same sort of drugs to beat what's his name again, Szayel Aporro Ganz.[/sp][/QUOTE] This is just like my Taiwanese cartoons!

Why does everyone deserve rehabilitation?, what about people that got murdered? there's no way to bring them back

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237387]Why does everyone deserve rehabilitation?, what about people that got murdered? there's no way to bring them back[/QUOTE] Because by helping the perps, there's the possibility of some good coming out of a murder. To do pretty much anything else would be to cause additional, unnecessary harm.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44237450]Because by helping the perps, there's the possibility of some good coming out of a murder. To do pretty much anything else would be to cause additional, unnecessary harm.[/QUOTE] What about child molesters?, they ruined the rest of their victims life, without ever having the possibility of fully recovering the victim to be a normal human being ever again. Does he/she still deserve rehabilitation? And where does justice come in here, one person gets killed and the other gets rehabilitated?

At least those guys what got multiple life sentences would be able to see them through. :v:

This is exactly the sort of shit they coined the term "cruel and unusual" for.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237508]What about child molesters?, they ruined the rest of their victims life, without ever having the possibility of fully recovering the victim to be a normal human being ever again. Does he/she still deserve rehabilitation? And where does justice come in here, one person gets killed and the other gets rehabilitated?[/QUOTE] Why would changing the crime do change my opinion? If the perp is killed or tortured or locked away and the key thrown away, that doesn't undo the damage, so why do it? Deterrents don't work, and revenge isn't justice.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44237579]Why would changing the crime do change my opinion? If the perp is killed or tortured or locked away and the key thrown away, that doesn't undo the damage, so why do it? Deterrents don't work, and revenge isn't justice.[/QUOTE] What is justice then?, because I don't see how having one persons right to live taken away and the killer being rehabilitated is justice somehow, really?

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237601]What is justice then?, because I don't see how having one persons right to live taken away and the killer being rehabilitated is justice somehow, really?[/QUOTE] The victim will continue to be dead no matter what. There's nothing that can be done to change that. By treating the perp with respect, looking at what's gone wrong in their life, and hopefully fixing those things, at least [I]someone[/I] can come out for the better. That's all I'm arguing for, the lack of unnecessary human suffering; and this kind of thing is most certainly unnecessary.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44237654]The victim will continue to be dead no matter what. There's nothing that can be done to change that. By treating the perp with respect, looking at what's gone wrong in their life, and hopefully fixing those things, at least [I]someone[/I] can come out for the better. That's all I'm arguing for, the lack of unnecessary human suffering; and this kind of thing is most certainly unnecessary.[/QUOTE] Well I disagree, I think that if someone decides to take someone else's life, he doesn't deserve respect, nor does he deserve rehabilitation, he deserves to rot in prison, for the longest time possible. I think it would only be fair, the killer gets the ability to exist in the world, something that the victim doesn't have anymore.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237508]What about child molesters?, they ruined the rest of their victims life, without ever having the possibility of fully recovering the victim to be a normal human being ever again. Does he/she still deserve rehabilitation? And where does justice come in here, one person gets killed and the other gets rehabilitated?[/QUOTE] OK, I think you're [I]really[/I] overestimating the amount of damage a child molester can do. You can certainly come away from it with a lot of scars, but to say there's automatically no possible chance of you ever becoming a normal human being is just wrong. I got touched on the bumbum when I was a kid, and I'm fine. My life isn't some living hell where I just lay in bed crying over shit that happened years ago. And I certainly wouldn't want the person who did it to live for centuries being tortured and shit or whatever.

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;44237692]OK, I think you're [I]really[/I] overestimating the amount of damage a child molester can do. You can certainly come away from it with a lot of scars, but to say there's automatically no possible chance of you ever becoming a normal human being is just wrong. I got touched on the bumbum when I was a kid, and I'm fine. My life isn't some living hell where I just lay in bed crying over shit that happened years ago. And I certainly wouldn't want the person who did it to live for centuries being tortured and shit or whatever.[/QUOTE] Take look at the deep web, I think you're underestimating the amount of damage.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237686]Well I disagree, I think that if someone decides to take someone else's life, he doesn't deserve respect, nor does he deserve rehabilitation, he deserves to rot in prison, for the longest time possible.[/QUOTE] Then I hope you never end up in a postion of power over your fellow man. [QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237707]Take look at the deep web, I think you're underestimating the amount of damage.[/QUOTE] The damage done to some =/= the damage done to all.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237686]Well I disagree, I think that if someone decides to take someone else's life, he doesn't deserve respect, nor does he deserve rehabilitation, he deserves to rot in prison, for the longest time possible.[/QUOTE] Why do you say that rehabilitation is something that has to be deserved?

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44237725]Then I hope you never end up in a postion of power over your fellow man. The damage done to some =/= the damage done to all.[/QUOTE] I'm taking extreme examples to challenge your points. Obviously if someone got felt up the ass, the offender doesn't deserve to rot in prison for all eternity. but what if you can't rehabilitate the victim, what then? Rehabilitation is a privilege, not everyone deserves it.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237707]Take look at the deep web, I think you're underestimating the amount of damage.[/QUOTE] [I]Hell[/I] no I'm not. Again, I turned out fine. Hell, I've met other people who've been molested, and they turned out fine. Maybe with a bit of trauma, but to say we can't 'live normal lives' is absurd.

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;44237790][I]Hell[/I] no I'm not. Again, I turned out fine. Hell, I've met other people who've been molested, and they turned out fine. Maybe with a bit of trauma, but to say we can't 'live normal lives' is absurd.[/QUOTE] You obviously didn't see what I have seen, these people can't be rehabilitated, killing them is a fucking privilege for them The offenders that is, not the victims

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;44235409]That's total recall wtf[/QUOTE] I realized that like five minutes after I posted it.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237808]You obviously didn't see what I have seen, these people can't be rehabilitated, killing them is a fucking privilege for them[/QUOTE] No I didn't see whatever fucked up child porn gore shit you saw. But I kinda saw a child getting touched in real life, and the child was me. So, I think I'm kinda qualified to talk about shit just a little bit. And I would never ever dismiss a human being as 'beyond rehabilitation', that's just unfair and willing ignorance for the sake of revenge. Stop dehumanizing people. There are those who really can't be rehabilitated, but they are in the very utter minority. I'd rather have a few failing to be rehabilitated forever than a lot executed or tortured because 'they can't be rehabilitated' because some guy says so.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44237808]You obviously didn't see what I have seen, these people can't be rehabilitated, killing them is a fucking privilege for them[/QUOTE] Dude. Are you seriously not only acting like a lethal version of "eye for an eye" is a completely sound rationale for dealing with criminals, but you're also calling someone who's apparently [I]actually been molested as a kid[/I] [B]wrong[/B] in their assessment of its effects and damages on a person? Even though, as far as I know considering this is the internet, you haven't [I]ever[/I] been in that situation and therefore have a lot less experience with it? That's just... [B]Wow[/B]. I don't even know what to say.

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;44237871]No I didn't see whatever fucked up child porn gore shit you saw. But I kinda saw a child getting touched in real life, and the child was me. So, I think I'm kinda qualified to talk about shit just a little bit. And I would never ever dismiss a human being as 'beyond rehabilitation', that's just unfair and willing ignorance for the sake of revenge. Stop dehumanizing people. There are those who really can't be rehabilitated, but they are in the very utter minority. I'd rather have a few failing to be rehabilitated forever than a lot executed or tortured because 'they can't be rehabilitated' because some guy says so.[/QUOTE] We'll agree to disagree then, and they're not in the minority. [editline]15th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TurboSax;44237878]Dude. Are you seriously not only acting like a lethal version of "eye for an eye" is a completely sound rationale for dealing with criminals, but you're also calling someone who's apparently [I]actually been molested as a kid[/I] wrong in their assessment of its effects and damages on a person? Even though, as far as I know considering this is the internet, you haven't ever been in that situation and therefore have a lot less experience with it? That's just... Wow. I don't even know what to say.[/QUOTE] You're making alot of baseless assumptions about me, considering you know nothing about me. and it's not eye to eye, existing vs not existing?

So when the public is angry about having to pay for the well being of prisoners, we'd extend their lifetime?