[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23307629]I don't understand the "hurr human rights" argument. So I guess the holocaust never happened?[/QUOTE]
What does the holocaust have to do with what we're talking about now?
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23307629]I don't understand the "hurr human rights" argument. So I guess the holocaust never happened?[/QUOTE]
right again let's kill and oppress palestinians to make up for something that they never caused.
we'll use comparable methods but goddamn if you compare us to nazis you're an anti semite.
[QUOTE=starpluck;23307626]No, they, didn't. Everyone there said there wasen't and look and the damn pictures with the streams. You make it sound like Hamas are able to make their smoke streams vanish. If they launched rockets, you would see smoke streams![/QUOTE]
Listen, the IDF has targeting systems which can tell when rockets are being fired and then target the spot where it was fired from and fire back at it in a few minutes. All rocket attacks against Gaza during Cast Lead were done with this, there wasn't a single rocket launch which wasn't targeting the Hamas who just a few minutes earlier fired a rocket or a few themselves. It's absurd to think that the IDF would go out of his way in order to attack some UN school when it knew the risks involved. We already know that when IDF officers take too many risks they get sentenced and punished for it.
Also I'd like to know what do you think about this video:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6vyT8RzMo[/media]
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23298600]Why is facepunch so pro-israel? I think I've seen only two or three other people who aren't besides my self.
Guess human rights are nothing.[/QUOTE]
Facepunch is extremely anti-Israel. I've only seen one other person on here besides me who is pro-Israel.
[QUOTE=starpluck;23307549]:wtc:
I highlighted what's true.[/QUOTE]
Oh because a nation's right to self-sovereignty is racist?
[QUOTE=starpluck;23297990][URL]http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=181055[/URL]
[IMG]http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?ID=140536[/IMG]
A post I found on another website which is pretty much truth:
"Israel holds the world's record for most defiance of UN Resolutions. Israel, exposed not only as having nuclear weapons using uranium stolen from the US but also for trying to sell nuclear weapons to other countries, has refused UN (and US) requests to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty or to allow the UN's inspectors access to the weapons facilities. Israel has yet to comply with the conditions placed on its UN membership. Israel has refused the UN request for an international inquiry into the attack on the aid flotilla. Israel has repeatedly destroyed UN facilities and killed UN staffers both in Lebanon and Gaza. And Israel has the unmitigated nerve to stand around the UN whining, "Why don't you love us?" "[/QUOTE]
I doubt Israel's gone against the UN as much as the US has...
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23308039]Oh because a nation's right to self-sovereignty is racist?[/QUOTE]
People think being at war with Palestine is a violation of human rights. They also think Israel should treat the Palestinians, their enemies, with special care and consideration.
Violation of human rights my ass, it's a damn war.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;23308030]Facepunch is extremely anti-Israel. I've only seen one other person on here besides me who is pro-Israel.[/QUOTE]
Oh come on, there are at least 10 pro-Israelis here and if you can't see that you're blind. I'm ashamed that you support my side, just do us a favor and read some Wikipedia before you return to debate here.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;23307492]Firstly, not 5000 years
second, the lack of archaelogical proof of said slavery in egypt brings doubt.[/QUOTE]
Regardless, it's like this.
The world, including Palestine, has done a shit ton of horrible things to Israel, and everyone is just like "cool" (at least the British Empire had some sympathy on them).
But now, Israel's treating the Palestinians just a wee bit below average, and the world goes insane.
[QUOTE=starpluck;23307676]Thanks Uberman, you made my day. I mean it.[/QUOTE]
I aim to please.
Its so funny watching you guys fight.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23308076]Oh come on, there are at least 10 pro-Israelis here and if you can't see that you're blind. I'm ashamed that you support my side, just do us a favor and read some Wikipedia before you return to debate here.[/QUOTE]
.....huh?
I never saw any pro-Israelis besides you and myself, my fucking bad. Calm down.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;23308041]People think being at war with Palestine is a violation of human rights. They also think Israel should treat the Palestinians, their enemies, with special care and consideration.
Violation of human rights my ass, it's a damn war.[/QUOTE]
War is considered illegal unless there's a good reason for it. Palestinians SHOULD be treated with special care, EVEN ENEMY COMBATANTS. Please, reading your posts makes doubt Israel a lot more than anyone else's post, just, just stop it.
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[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;23308121].....huh?
I never saw any pro-Israelis besides you and myself, my fucking bad. Calm down.[/QUOTE]
Devo, DogGun, GunFox, ohadje (who only came recently, I'll give you that). Here's another 4 off the top of my head.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23308122]War is considered illegal unless there's a good reason for it. Palestinians SHOULD be treated with special care, EVEN ENEMY COMBATANTS. Please, reading your posts makes doubt Israel a lot more than anyone else's post, just, just stop it.[/QUOTE]
What a great war idea!
War isn't about winning, it's about making sure everyone's happy and kind and nice and in all good shape!
"We're in a war, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!"
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23308001]Listen, the IDF has targeting systems which can tell when rockets are being fired and then target the spot where it was fired from and fire back at it in a few minutes. All rocket attacks against Gaza during Cast Lead were done with this, there wasn't a single rocket launch which wasn't targeting the Hamas who just a few minutes earlier fired a rocket or a few themselves. It's absurd to think that the IDF would go out of his way in order to attack some UN school when it knew the risks involved. We already know that when IDF officers take too many risks they get sentenced and punished for it.
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Obviously they don't since they bombed a school that had no Hamas. The IDF even have coordinates of the UN schools and still bombed it.
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Also I'd like to know what do you think about this video:
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=NX6vyT8RzMo[/URL]
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I'd tell the man to read the Goldstone report.
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23308039]Oh because a nation's right to self-sovereignty is racist?[/QUOTE]
Zionism is no doubt a racist ideology.
[QUOTE=starpluck;23308426]Obviously they don't since they bombed a school that had no Hamas. The IDF even have coordinates of the UN schools and still bombed it.[/quote]
Obviously you don't know if there were no Hamas there, and if Hamas uses UN facilities as rocket launching sites then it's their fault for using human shields.
[quote]I'd tell the man to read the Goldstone report.[/QUOTE]
I think he's actually saying that, in the video, to the Goldstone committee.
[editline]10:08PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=starpluck;23308426]Zionism is no doubt a racist ideology.[/QUOTE]
How so?
[quote]Zionism is no doubt a racist ideology.[/quote]
What's racist about it?
What I find amusing is that while there are truckloads of threads about Israeli human rights abuses, everyone ignores the far more horrific abuses occurring in other areas of the world.
By the way, to anyone who wondered what happened 4 years ago (well 4 years and a day for my timezone), it was the start of the 2nd Lebanon war, when a group of Hezbollah militants crossed the border into Israel and attacked Israeli military positions while also launching rockets at Israeli towns and cities.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;23311416]What I find amusing is that while there are truckloads of threads about Israeli human rights abuses, everyone ignores the far more horrific abuses occurring in other areas of the world.[/QUOTE]
What I find amusing is that people even give a shit about things like this or religion anymore.
Sad, more like. Not to mention dangerous.
Basically, you are an idiot if you believe peace in the middle-east will ever happen whilst religion still exists.
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