• Massive fuckwit I know jailed for two years, for having sex with a 14 year old girl
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[QUOTE=TestECull;39471360]If there was an age gap I wouldn't really care, because it would pretty much exclude the people for whom I'm arguing from such action. A 2-4 year age gap exemption solves the problem I have with the AoC nicely.[/QUOTE] then why have you been arguing against set ages of consent this whole time I don't even disagree with that a lot of places have those laws
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39471343]he didn't lose it to an adult though (I hope)[/QUOTE] no, it was a girl who was 12 if i remember right
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39471366]then why have you been arguing against set ages of consent this whole time[/QUOTE] Because I still think they're a bit silly and my area is pretty retardedly strict with said AoC. Saying "You must be X to do Y" is just silly. Saying "You must be X + or - 2 years to do Y" makes a whole lot more sense. Also it's occasionally nice to have a discussion. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play some New Vegas while you go look up those reports.
[QUOTE=TestECull;39471402]Because I still think they're a bit silly and my area is pretty retardedly strict with said AoC. Also it's occasionally nice to have a discussion. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play some New Vegas while you go look up those reports.[/QUOTE] [url]http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof[/url]
[QUOTE=Jocke;39471293][IMG]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=435005&dateline=1359978932[/IMG][/QUOTE] Darn, I just changed it aswell.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39471416][url]http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah yeah, link things all you want. Ain't gonna change anything. I don't really give half a shit if I argue 'correctly' on an internet forum. it's all inconsequential bullshit anyway, a way to pass an otherwise dull morning. I passed the burden of proof on to you. It's up to you to either drop the argument or go digging yourself, because I can't be assed to go digging through sex crime reports for a discussion on an internet forum.
I'm not defending anyone, but I still think that you guys underestimate teens too much. Just because she's 14 doesn't mean she's borderline retarded.
[QUOTE=Limed00d;39470734]Subtly reminds me of the movie 'Trainspotting' gone bad[/QUOTE] You mean Trainspotting wasn't bad enough?
[QUOTE=TestECull;39471428]because I can't be assed to go digging through sex crime reports for a discussion on an internet forum.[/QUOTE] And so he should be assed instead for some arbitrary reason?
Age of consent is 14 in Hungary, along with every other country going east of here. There's never a single news article or anything about such problems. Guess it's a cultural thing.
All the people arguing over an AoC of 16 or 18... Hey this is Spain, here you can bang a 13 years old :v:
[QUOTE=TestECull;39471428]I passed the burden of proof on to you.[/QUOTE] You can't do that.
[QUOTE=Kefirman;39471485]You mean Trainspotting wasn't bad enough?[/QUOTE] get out
[QUOTE=Rapist;39470523]14 is the legal age in Estonia. :v:[/QUOTE] One of the many reasons I love this country. i honestly don't know what you westerners are bitching about
[QUOTE=Rapist;39470523]14 is the legal age in Estonia. :v:[/QUOTE] It's fucking disturbing coming from a guy named Rapist But yeah, Estonia in terms of sex ed is best. [editline]4th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;39470569]This happened in the UK. Not some hippie communist shit-hole like Estonia.[/QUOTE] Even with all my hate for the Estonian government, fuck off if you have no idea what you're talking about. And you don't
2 years is really harsh imo, all he did was fuck her a couple of times, it's not like he raped her and beat her and locked her in his basement.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;39472129]It's fucking disturbing coming from a guy named Rapist But yeah, Estonia in terms of sex ed is best. [editline]4th February 2013[/editline] Even with all my hate for the Estonian government, fuck off if you have no idea what you're talking about. And you don't[/QUOTE] I regret the name every day.
[QUOTE=The mouse;39472230]2 years is really harsh imo, all he did was fuck her a couple of times, it's not like he raped her and beat her and locked her in his basement.[/QUOTE] He did rape her.
[QUOTE=The mouse;39472230]2 years is really harsh imo, all he did was fuck her a couple of times, it's not like he raped her and beat her and locked her in his basement.[/QUOTE] but he did rape her? [editline]4th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=mobrockers2;39472254]He did rape her.[/QUOTE] ugh
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;39472254]He did rape her.[/QUOTE] I meant rape as in the more stereotypical kind, not statuary. I should have been clearer.
It's pretty odd to see someone with a hentai avatar (where a majority of girls look underage) standing on the side against having sex with 14 year olds. It doesn't make much sense anyway does it? How the "legal" age on the Internet is 18 when most of the worlds age of consent is 16 or less.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;39472254]He did rape her.[/QUOTE] By definition, sure, but if we're being real here the sex was consensual. She might regret it few years later but that doesn't mean she was (literally) raped.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;39472357]By definition, sure, but if we're being real here the sex was [b]consensual[/b]. She might regret it few years later but that doesn't mean she was (literally) raped.[/QUOTE] Minors [b]can't[/b] consent, therefore there was NO consent, therefore she was raped. [editline]4th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=The mouse;39472285]I meant rape as in the more stereotypical kind, not statuary. I should have been clearer.[/QUOTE] It was rape in any meaning of the word as there was no consent as minors can't give consent. Stop grasping at straws. Minors can't give consent == minors can't have consensual sex == any sex with a minor is rape, no matter how it's called.
[QUOTE=FPChris;39472313]It's pretty odd to see someone with a hentai avatar (where a majority of girls look underage) standing on the side against having sex with 14 year olds. It doesn't make much sense anyway does it? How the "legal" age on the Internet is 18 when most of the worlds age of consent is 16 or less.[/QUOTE] Drawing =/= Reality However lets not get onto this topic otherwise we'll have 5 pages of arguing over japans knack to make a 12 year old 18 in drawings.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;39472357]By definition, sure, but if we're being real here the sex was consensual. She might regret it few years later but that doesn't mean she was (literally) raped.[/QUOTE] She was (literally) raped, yes it wasn't a violent rape or against her [i]will[/i] but her will isn't consensual because she is unable to give consent.
Wait, since he took her for 2 years isn't it also an abduction? I know she ran from home herself, but him keeping her hidden doesn't count as it? Btw my lady's parents moved together when her dad was 20 and her mom was 15. :v:
[QUOTE=lapsus_;39472437]Wait, since he took her for 2 years isn't it also an abduction?[/QUOTE] It doesn't looks like she was held against her will, more like she was sweet talked into staying. I'm not sure though, since all we've got is eddy saying he read it in a newspaper.
[QUOTE=Kefirman;39471485]You mean Trainspotting wasn't bad enough?[/QUOTE] Di- ... Did you just call one of my favourite movies [I]BAD[/I]? D-... No. NO.
Oh god I had sex with a minor also x.x when I was a minor but she was older than me.. WHAT DO?!
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39472431]She was (literally) raped, yes it wasn't a violent rape or against her [i]will[/i] but her will isn't consensual because she is unable to give consent.[/QUOTE] I may sound dumb here, but basically she isn't allowed to have sex even if she wanted it because she can't give consent? It just sounds silly and restricting. She may be young, but ultimately it's her choice. And do note that we're not talking about someone forcing her to have sex, she wanted to have it too.
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