Geithner: We are ready to go over the fiscal cliff if the GOP won't raise taxes on the rich

[itak365]

Good point, yeah. I just figured it was odd, especially considering that Teddy's Progressive Party probably would be a blue faction right about now.

[IKTM]

I wish we had someone like Teddy Roosevelt right now. Someone who was really willing to get in there and kick some ass.

Metaphorically, of course.

[Coldmute]

[QUOTE=IKTM;38738287]I wish we had someone like Teddy Roosevelt right now. Someone who was really willing to get in there and kick some ass.

Metaphorically, of course.[/QUOTE]If Teddy were around today, he'd go in and literally kick asses.

[dialogical]

[QUOTE=Lazzars;38725958]i thought that whole sub-prime loan debacle was entirely their fault[/QUOTE]

In this thread, financial elite seems to be everyone that enjoys a certain level of wealth, like high-paid doctors, lawyers, CEOs, and so forth. The financial crisis was caused by a number of different things, and one of those things is Wall Street. So yes, a subset of the "financial elite" contributed to the crisis. But to say rich people in general caused the crisis is patently false.

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=dialogical;38738789]In this thread, financial elite seems to be everyone that enjoys a certain level of wealth, like high-paid doctors, lawyers, CEOs, and so forth. The financial crisis was caused by a number of different things, and one of those things is Wall Street. So yes, a subset of the "financial elite" contributed to the crisis. But to say rich people in general caused the crisis is patently false.[/QUOTE]

Problem is, you either address all of them or none of them.
Also, who can most likely afford a little less every year?

It's not ideal, but it's better than cutting programs meant to help the poor & needy.
Which the Republicans somehow has a raging hard-on for doing.

[tdnoob]

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38729744]The average American survives on less than $40,000 a year. Yeah, sure, you can't get a nice house or car.

My mother makes around $250,000 a year and we have a very nice house, a very nice Mercedes, and I have everything I could ever want. Bull shit a million isn't a lot.[/QUOTE]

A million isn't a lot to YOU, but it's 50x my family's yearly income.

[Coldmute]

[QUOTE=tdnoob;38739166]A million isn't a lot to YOU, but it's 50x my family's yearly income.[/QUOTE]You realize that is exactly what he is saying, right?

[Køleskab]

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;38737563]Almost as ironic as conservatives using Jesus to back up their economic beliefs and the Founding Fathers to back up their belief in America as a Christian nation[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59hPjLfIajM[/media]

[editline]7th December 2012[/editline]

What's that? An actual critical video-game character?

[lifehole]

[QUOTE=Bomimo;38739582][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59hPjLfIajM[/media]

[editline]7th December 2012[/editline]

What's that? An actual critical video-game character?[/QUOTE]

As over-critical as those quotes are, tis a good point.

Still, progress comes at a walking pace with occasional sprints, not at 400 MPH. Societal structuring and beliefs that is, technological progress is something different entirely.