• Actor Johnny Depp accused of assaulting his wife with mobile phone, ordered by judge to fuck off
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[QUOTE=plunger435;50414997]Yeah, no one sees a bruised face, finds out the spouse did it, then has a hearty laugh about it.[/QUOTE] Dont know what reality you live in but women beating men is not seen in nearly the same light or tone as men beating women. Im not even sure where to start with this. We could start with how it has been and continues to be a punchline in comedies or sitcoms, on the entertainment side, or how very few victims actually report it due to the fear of being seen as weak.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50415085]Dont know what reality you live in but women beating men is not seen in nearly the same light or tone as men beating women. Im not even sure where to start with this. We could start with how it has been and continues to be a punchline in comedies or sitcoms, on the entertainment side, or how very few victims actually report it due to the fear of being seen as weak.[/QUOTE] And if you call the police, you will be the one carried away into a cell.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50415173]And if you call the police, you will be the one carried away into a cell.[/QUOTE] What? You show up at the police station with bruises and say your spouse beat you, who's going to arrest you? [QUOTE=AaronM202;50415085]Dont know what reality you live in but women beating men is not seen in nearly the same light or tone as men beating women. Im not even sure where to start with this. We could start with how it has been and continues to be a punchline in comedies or sitcoms, on the entertainment side, or how very few victims actually report it due to the fear of being seen as weak.[/QUOTE] Which modern comedies show that as comedic?
[QUOTE=plunger435;50415819]What? You show up at the police station with bruises and say your spouse beat you, who's going to arrest you?[/QUOTE] Yeah it takes bruises to be taken somewhat seriously. Try doing that without bruises.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50415819]What? You show up at the police station with bruises and say your spouse beat you, who's going to arrest you?[/QUOTE] It has been the case apparently that a man being abused by his wife who calls the police for help is the one who ends up being arrested instead of the one he's accusing, but I personally do not know the stats for it or whether it's just largely anecdotal and rare or operating procedure in domestic violence calls. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Z0XERQ0.jpg[/img_thumb] Actors hate her: How this woman octupled her net worth with one simple trick.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50415085]Dont know what reality you live in but women beating men is not seen in nearly the same light or tone as men beating women. Im not even sure where to start with this. We could start with how it has been and continues to be a punchline in comedies or sitcoms, on the entertainment side, or how [B]very few victims actually report it due to the fear of being seen as weak[/B].[/QUOTE] That last bit applies to everyone, regardless of gender, it's the most under reported crime. [QUOTE=rndgenerator;50415834]Yeah it takes bruises to be taken somewhat seriously. Try doing that without bruises.[/QUOTE] You're claiming men call the police and are arrested for it, can you give some examples. Do you have a bunch of news articles of men being arrested as victims of domestic abuse? [QUOTE=Riutet;50415845]It has been the case apparently that a man being abused by his wife who calls the police for help is the one who ends up being arrested instead of the one he's accusing, but I personally do not know the stats for it or whether it's just largely anecdotal and rare or operating procedure in domestic violence calls. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Z0XERQ0.jpg[/img_thumb] Actors hate her: How this woman octupled her net worth with one simple trick.[/QUOTE] So two people are saying it now, but no one is posting examples of why or how? Oh boy, and I see we've arrived back to the classic, "He didn't hit her! She's just a gold digger!"
[QUOTE=Riutet;50415845]It has been the case apparently that a man being abused by his wife who calls the police for help is the one who ends up being arrested instead of the one he's accusing, but I personally do not know the stats for it or whether it's just largely anecdotal and rare or operating procedure in domestic violence calls. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Z0XERQ0.jpg[/img_thumb] Actors hate her: How this woman octupled her net worth with one simple trick.[/QUOTE] I guess people aren't ever allowed to be happy after they've been a victim of something.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50415874]So two people are saying it now, but no one is posting examples of why or how? Oh boy, and I see we've arrived back to the classic, "He didn't hit her! She's just a gold digger!"[/QUOTE] I'm saying I've heard talk, not that I'm an expert on the topic, but a 5 second google search turns up: [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12061547/How-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse-often-end-up-getting-arrested-themselves.html[/url] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/bob-morgan/male-domestic-violence_b_3962958.html[/url] [url]https://www.nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3972-researcher-what-hap-3972[/url] Perhaps if someone who cared more put in more than 5 seconds to search they'd find something more. And to the other statement, he probably did hit her and was abusive to her in all those other circumstances, I don't however think spousal support should be used as a system for the rich to get richer, it should be to stop people being made destitute because they entered into a relationship where someone else became the breadwinner for them and then had to leave it due to fault of the other party, so the idea that she'd seek money when she's loaded bothers me.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50415874]You're claiming men call the police and are arrested for it, can you give some examples. Do you have a bunch of news articles of men being arrested as victims of domestic abuse?[/QUOTE] i was able to find this [url]https://www.nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3972-researcher-what-hap-3972[/url] [quote]The men in the survey who called the police found them to be "very helpful" in only 19% of cases, and "not at all helpful" in 50% of cases. More importantly, when an abused man called the police, the police were more likely to arrest him than to arrest his abusive female partner. The men who called the police were arrested in 26% of cases, whereas their abusive partners were arrested in only 17%. Half the time the police arrested nobody, despite the abuse, and in 8% of the cases they arrested both the abuser and the victim. In those cases where the police did identify the abused man's female partner as the aggressor, in 29% of cases, they refused to arrest the abusive woman. In 39% of these cases they said that there was nothing they could do and left. One abused man said: The [police] first response was to arrest me, even after she turned on them, they did nothing.[/quote] which lead me to this [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175099/[/url] [quote]Qualitative research has documented the experiences of men who seek help for female-to-male IPV (Cook 2009; Hines et al. 2007). For example, Cook (2009) performed in depth interviews of 30 men who sustained all types of IPV from their female partners and tried to seek help. This work shows that men often experience barriers when seeking help. When calling domestic violence hotlines, for instance, men who sustained all types of IPV report that the hotline workers say that they only help women, infer or explicitly state that the men must be the actual instigators of the violence, or ridicule them. Male helpseekers also report that hotlines will sometimes refer them to batterers’ programs. Some men have reported that when they call the police during an incident in which their female partners are violent, the police sometimes fail to respond. Other men reported being ridiculed by the police or being incorrectly arrested as the primary aggressor. Within the judicial system, some men who sustained IPV reported experiencing gender-stereotyped treatment. Even with apparent corroborating evidence that their female partners were violent and that the helpseekers were not, they reportedly lost custody of their children, were blocked from seeing their children, and were falsely accused by their partners of IPV and abusing their children. According to some, the burden of proof for male IPV victims may be especially high (Cook 2009).[/quote]
[QUOTE=Riutet;50416067]I'm saying I've heard talk, not that I'm an expert on the topic, but a 5 second google search turns up: [URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12061547/How-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse-often-end-up-getting-arrested-themselves.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/bob-morgan/male-domestic-violence_b_3962958.html[/URL] [URL]https://www.nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3972-researcher-what-hap-3972[/URL] Perhaps if someone who cared more put in more than 5 seconds to search they'd find something more. And to the other statement, he probably did hit her and was abusive to her in all those other circumstances, I don't however think spousal support should be used as a system for the rich to get richer, it should be to stop people being made destitute because they entered into a relationship where someone else became the breadwinner for them and then had to leave it due to fault of the other party, so the idea that she'd seek money when she's loaded bothers me.[/QUOTE] You posted a single anecdote followed by another anecdote of a police officer who was in service in the [B]80's[/B]. [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50416092]i was able to find this [URL]https://www.nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3972-researcher-what-hap-3972[/URL] which lead me to this [URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175099/[/URL][/QUOTE] Besides Cooks uncorroborated interview with[B] 30[/B] anonymous males, the arrest rate is on par with the arrest for domestic abuse as a whole. [url]http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvs02.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=plunger435;50416296]Besides Cooks uncorroborated interview with[B] 30[/B] anonymous males, the arrest rate is on par with the arrest for domestic abuse as a whole. [url]http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvs02.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] if you could quote specifically what you are talking about it would be helpful to your case, as it currently stands i am having difficulty figuring out what exactly you are referring to
[url]http://www.thewrap.com/johnny-depp-is-being-blackmailed-by-amber-heard-heres-how-i-know-guest-column/[/url] interesting
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50414241]Your "opinion" seems to be objectively wrong then? Because it isn't natural.[/QUOTE] What are you even on about? Of course violent anger is natural
[QUOTE=RobL;50425576]What are you even on about? Of course violent anger is natural[/QUOTE] Okay but if you hit your wife/husband cause you have an explosive temper then you need to get some fucking help. That's not okay,it's never okay. Once it starts it never stops. I promise you it doesn't,I've lived this from my childhood til last year. My dad beat my mom,my sister and me. My ex had a violent temper too,breaking shit and ranting and raving,drawing his hand back like he was gonna slap me and yes pushing me around and once elbowing me in the ribs really hard for no reason besides he was mad about not having money. It's never okay,don't ever put up with that. If they hit you once,leave them. Don't stick around. It never gets better.
Depp's net worth is estimated at $400 million, Heard is worth $4.5 million in her own right with the potential to earn a few bucks more, I don't think this was ever about money. Purely speculation on my part but my guess is that both of them have huge ego's and are used to getting their own way, often. This being the catalyst.
[QUOTE=Kindashort;50428130]Okay but if you hit your wife/husband cause you have an explosive temper then you need to get some fucking help. That's not okay,it's never okay. Once it starts it never stops. I promise you it doesn't,I've lived this from my childhood til last year. My dad beat my mom,my sister and me. My ex had a violent temper too,breaking shit and ranting and raving,drawing his hand back like he was gonna slap me and yes pushing me around and once elbowing me in the ribs really hard for no reason besides he was mad about not having money. It's never okay,don't ever put up with that. If they hit you once,leave them. Don't stick around. It never gets better.[/QUOTE] Sorry to hear about about that man, but of course natural doesn't equal acceptable
[QUOTE=Disasterpieces;50423181][url]http://www.thewrap.com/johnny-depp-is-being-blackmailed-by-amber-heard-heres-how-i-know-guest-column/[/url] interesting[/QUOTE] As much as I believe Doug it's still not entirely uncertain Depp could have gotten physical. Whether it be a combination of his mother's death and hearing how people felt about Amber or if she somehow baited him into attacking her. I just hope that if it comes down to court, Doug will actually stick by him and be willing to tell the court what he knows.
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