Boy who shot intruder says suspect 'cried like a little baby'
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[QUOTE=soulharvester;50227928]Don't fucking edit my quote to make it look like I didn't make it a very specific scenario when I was justifying the kids actions, that coma is there for a reason, that's not the end of the sentence.[/QUOTE]
bad neighborhood, so leave your kids at home alone no big deal they got a gun.
Fights usually involve anger you know a normal emotion that sometimes leads to insults being flung.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50227933]seems very clear to me this is a difference in culture. americans are far more defensive of their property and right to defend it than it seems europeans are, a holdover from the frontiertimes i imagine[/QUOTE]
A minority of states have such a tough Castle Doctrine law, only 12 iirc so it seems like most Americans would / should agree that shooting a thief running away isn't right.
Tell me when he goes to prison after shooting up a school bragging how they cried like babies.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50227813]A guy running away isn't an active threat to your life. There's no need to resort to lethal force. If they threatened to kill you and you are certain they will try, prepare yourself for when they actually come back to fuck you up.You don't shoot fleeing criminals, it's unjustifiable when all they've done is stolen replaceable or recoverable shit.[/QUOTE]Better to kill the piece of shit who is threatening your life then have to live in fear that they will come back while you're asleep and actually do it.And, to be clear, I'm talking about cases where the average person would reasonably be fearful such a statement is accurate. Someone saying that in a game is vastly different to someone who broke into your house saying it.
Heres the deal with living in Alabama virtually every household has at least one gun and with that the owners are fulling willing to shoot any home invader im not going to argue if thats right or wrong but thats just the way it is in Alabama thats the culture around here. if you invade someones house in Alabama be prepared to die because if you get caught your probably getting shot
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50227952]Tell me when he goes to prison after shooting up a school bragging how they cried like babies.[/QUOTE]
Tell me when the kids break into his house multiple times and threaten to kill him.
it's a kid, even an adult's gonna panic and shoot multiple times, especially since you don't know if you're going to hit or not
from the article:
[quote]Gaither’s 12th and final shot hit the suspect in the leg.[/quote]
that and sometimes it takes multiple shots to incapacitate somebody because adrenaline
however, the dude did seem to just be walking away and the kid didn't seem to be in immediate harm, if I read the articles right, so it probably wasn't completely justified to shoot the dude.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;50227953]Better to kill the piece of shit who is threatening your life then have to live in fear that they will come back while you're asleep and actually do it.[/QUOTE]
yes, because every burglar totally wants to murder you in cold blood. Totally alright to kill them.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;50227953]Better to kill the piece of shit who is threatening your life then have to live in fear that they will come back while you're asleep and actually do it.[/QUOTE]
well if everyone in america worries for their life while they're asleep, perhaps moving to another country maybe?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50227312]kid is gonna be bragging about this for the rest of his life[/QUOTE]
And will get tons of pussy for it.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50227966]yes, because every burglar totally wants to murder you in cold blood. Totally alright to kill them.[/QUOTE] No, but this one apparently did:[quote]“When he was coming down the stairs, that’s when he told me he was going to kill me, f-you and all that,” Gaither said.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50227933]seems very clear to me this is a difference in culture. americans are far more defensive of their property and right to defend it than it seems europeans are, a holdover from the frontiertimes i imagine[/QUOTE]
It's probably the fact that we don't have all those nice safety nets that Europeans have built into their systems for people who fall into poverty, so having your home frequently broken into or your vehicle(s) stolen is a much bigger threat to our lives here than in Europe.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;50227975]No, but this one apparently did:[/QUOTE]
Totally meant it and wasn't just trying to scare an 11-year-old. Totally wanted to actually kill him.
Well we know you're cool with taking chances of people hurting you or your loved ones not everyone else feels the same way, sorry.
[QUOTE=Morgen;50227949]A minority of states have such a tough Castle Doctrine law, only 12 iirc so it seems like most Americans would / should agree that shooting a thief running away isn't right.[/QUOTE]
oh i don't agree with the kid shooting the thief while he ran. i just don't think he is a psychopath for doing so and can understand how he came to think of it as okay.
[QUOTE=AK'z;50227819]he shot at him 12 times....
Is noone thinking he's a psychopath or what?[/QUOTE]
I'd do the same thing too if I had a weapon and some big scary man I never met before, invaded MY home to go god knows what to me, my family, and my possessions.
I'd panic fire too if he even filched at me.
Sure the fact that the kid legit shot someone might do something to him maybe, but maybe he'll take it as he defended his home and family and make it a positive experience.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50227977]Totally meant it and wasn't just trying to scare an 11-year-old. Totally wanted to actually kill him.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I will take a criminal at their word, it is an honorable profession, after all.
Wouldn't take the chance, if someone broke in to my house saying to me "I'll kill you", I would definitely open up on them.
[QUOTE=KingGrim;50227987]Well we know you're cool with taking chances of people hurting you or your loved ones not everyone else feels the same way, sorry.[/QUOTE]
don't condescend him when we don't sleep living in fear of murder day in and day out lol.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50227977]Totally meant it and wasn't just trying to scare an 11-year-old. Totally wanted to actually kill him.[/QUOTE]
obviously the threat worked as the kid feared for his life enough to retaliate.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50227977]Totally meant it and wasn't just trying to scare an 11-year-old. Totally wanted to actually kill him.[/QUOTE]
Well that sure did backfire then, didn't it?
Who knows if he meant it, he was already willing to illegally break into someone's home. Who knows what he wanted, why he was there, what his mental state was. Better to err on the side of caution and remove the threat then have to live in fear, to my view.
If you're living and poverty and don't have enough money to get by, don't go terrorise people in their homes, shoplift or something--if there's no other alternatives. If you break into someone's home, you should consider your life potentially forfeit.
[QUOTE=AK'z;50227967]well if everyone in america worries for their life while they're asleep, perhaps moving to another country maybe?[/QUOTE]
i don't fear for my life, neither do many people, but i assume someone who has had multiple break-ins and had the guy directly tell them "i'll kill you" probably has some reason to fear for their life
[QUOTE=AK'z;50227998]don't condescend him when we don't sleep living in fear of murder day in and day out lol.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure if you had the fear of something happening you'd sleep right through it I'm not arguing against that.
[QUOTE=AK'z;50227967]well if everyone in america worries for their life while they're asleep, perhaps moving to another country maybe?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]don't condescend him when we don't sleep living in fear of murder day in and day out lol[/quote]
Where are you getting the idea that everyone in America is worrying for their life when they go to sleep... just because they'd defend their home?
I'm more concerned that he's talking like Private Pyle after the fact.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50228016]I'm more concerned that he's talking like Private Pyle after the fact.[/QUOTE]
Probably not a big deal. I can see why he'd think it sort of funny that someone acting hard and threatening to kill him would start blubbering after he gets shot for it. It's a weird response, but I don't think it's anything damning as far as mental health goes.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50227933]seems very clear to me this is a difference in culture. americans are far more defensive of their property and right to defend it than it seems europeans are, a holdover from the frontiertimes i imagine[/QUOTE]
Second Amendment, the Right to bear arms. In simple terms, the right to easily aquire firearms when our way of life is under threat by a tyrant, whether he is from far overseas, or from this very nation.
The frontier part is true too, since guns gave us food and defended us from the unknown territories of the west, so we could survive and eventually thrive in places of vast plains and deserts, and dense dark forest.
Also I'm legit laughing at this thread trying to be arm-chair psychologists. Kid was faced with a big scary man that wanted to kill him, kid grabbed gun and fired back to simply not die, kid makes comment realizing the big scary man, is nothing more than a mere runt trying to be a big scary man.
[QUOTE=AK'z;50227819]he shot at him 12 times....
Is noone thinking he's a psychopath or what?[/QUOTE]
Why do people think this shit? "OH NO HE PULLED THE TRIGGER MORE THAN ONCE DEADLY MURDERER ALERT"
No.
He was scared, so he fired until he couldn't anymore.
If he was a psychopath and a marksman, if he'd fired one bullet, that'd be some crazy and scary shit.
Why do people think "More rounds, more insane" when in reality, the correlation is the exact other way.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50228007]i don't fear for my life, neither do many people, but i assume someone who has had multiple break-ins and had the guy directly tell them "i'll kill you" probably has some reason to fear for their life[/QUOTE]
the first natural response is to back away. I'm sorry if that's not cool, but unless you're barricaded indoors, I have no reason to engage with some crackpot.
my house is not my fort, it's just a few bricks and some records.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50227936]Does the fight part of it also include mocking your target?[/QUOTE]
Humans always sometimes include mocking in their fights, because it gives him a mini burst of courage and resolve, so they don't end up panicking, quivering in their shoes and just allowing them to get hurt.
It's pretty natural actually.
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