• Boy who shot intruder says suspect 'cried like a little baby'
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[QUOTE=AK'z;50228036]the first natural response is to back away. I'm sorry if that's not cool, but unless you're barricaded indoors, I have no reason to engage with some crackpot. my house is not my fort, it's just a few bricks and some records.[/QUOTE] I can't get behind that mindset. I have no idea what anyone is going to do if they break in my house, and I absolutely refuse to let them dictate the terms of my life for even one second. Why would you trust someone who broke into the house? I live in a decent enough area, but the people who break in around here are usually drugged up or out of their minds on something or other so I really, really, don't understand why you'd let THEM control your life
[QUOTE=evilweazel;50228022]Probably not a big deal. I can see why he'd think it sort of funny that someone acting hard and threatening to kill him would start blubbering after he gets shot for it. It's a weird response, but I don't think it's anything damning as far as mental health goes.[/QUOTE] it would be more worrying if he had killed the guy, but the guy lived ane it doesn't seem that unreasonable to not be remorseful of wounding someone who you perceive as a threat.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50227966]yes, because every burglar totally wants to murder you in cold blood. Totally alright to kill them.[/QUOTE] To keep people silent and from remembering details to tell the police? Fuck yeah they would if they had the chance to.
[QUOTE=AK'z;50228036]the first natural response is to back away. I'm sorry if that's not cool, but unless you're barricaded indoors, I have no reason to engage with some crackpot. my house is not my fort, it's just a few bricks and some records.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but my house is most definitely my fort. It is where I grew up, and holds too many things that are very sentimental for me, and very valuable for my family. My family and I have worked very hard for most of our shit. I value it much higher than I do anyone who decides they deserve to waltz in and take it and do god knows what else, and I'm definitely not going to sit on my hands while someone rummages through my house taking the things we work hard for. And I am most DEFINITELY NOT going to assume they're not going to hurt me or my family. I am very much going to assume the worst of anyone who breaks into my house, and respond in kind. They'll get a warning to get on the ground while we wait for police, my intent to use force if they try to take me on, after that, anything goes.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50227977]Totally meant it and wasn't just trying to scare an 11-year-old. Totally wanted to actually kill him.[/QUOTE] Do you really want to take the chance that someone like that WOULDN'T kill you? That a big gamble.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50227936]Does the fight part of it also include mocking your target?[/QUOTE] He shot the fuck out of a dude, at what point do you start worrying about "mocking".
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50228058]To keep people silent and from remembering details to tell the police? Fuck yeah they would if they had the chance to.[/QUOTE] If you really think that every burglar wants to murder you in cold blood, holy shit dude. Loving all the hard men in this thread saying they'd shoot someone if they broke into their house. I doubt it.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50228050]I can't get behind that mindset. I have no idea what anyone is going to do if they break in my house, and I absolutely refuse to let them dictate the terms of my life for even one second. Why would you trust someone who broke into the house? I live in a decent enough area, but the people who break in around here are usually drugged up or out of their minds on something or other so I really, really, don't understand why you'd let THEM control your life[/QUOTE] I will go far as to increase security but I'm genuinely not interested in engaging with violence unless it's totally necessary. If there are younger ones that's an entirely different scenario. [editline]30th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=evilweazel;50228065]holds too many things that are [B]very sentimental for me[/B][/QUOTE] not very sentimental if you're dead.
Yet again this one threatened to kill him and AGAIN not everyone is content with getting fucked over so yeah I'd rather shoot someone than them hurt me or my family. [editline]29th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=AK'z;50228148]not very sentimental if you're dead.[/QUOTE] No shit hence why you get rid of the threat to you.
[QUOTE=AK'z;50228148]I will go far as to increase security but I'm genuinely not interested in engaging with violence unless it's totally necessary. If there are younger ones that's an entirely different scenario. [editline]30th April 2016[/editline] not very sentimental if you're dead.[/QUOTE] Exactly. I'm not jumping at the chance to hurt anyone, low life who'd broken into my home or not. The ONLY situation I'd ever hurt anyone with intent to kill is if they literally had a gun/knife on me. Even then, I'd prefer not to fucking murder a person.
[QUOTE=KingGrim;50228154] No shit hence why you get rid of the threat to you.[/QUOTE] the gun doesn't automatically make you john wayne I'm sorry but is this a different planet I'm on or what?
[QUOTE=AK'z;50228166]the gun doesn't automatically make you john wayne I'm sorry but is this a different planet I'm on or what?[/QUOTE] i think his point is: shoot the guy BEFORE he gets his gun and not after
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50228142]If you really think that every burglar wants to murder you in cold blood, holy shit dude. Loving all the hard men in this thread saying they'd shoot someone if they broke into their house. I doubt it.[/QUOTE] if someone is breaking into your house, you cannot know what their intentions are. yes, it is likely they won't kill you, but it is entirely possible they are willing to kill you. i don't want to take my chances.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50228162]Exactly. I'm not jumping at the chance to hurt anyone, low life who'd broken into my home or not. The ONLY situation I'd ever hurt anyone with intent to kill is if they literally had a gun/knife on me. Even then, I'd prefer not to fucking murder a person.[/QUOTE] It doesn't even have to be a gun. If I had a baseball bat and decided to whallop him in the head AS he was walking out, that's still fucked up.
[QUOTE=Perrine;50228169]i think his point is: shoot the guy BEFORE he gets his gun and not after[/QUOTE] You've missed what AKZ is trying to say. He's saying that just because you're holding a gun, it doesn't turn you into a certified badass. It certainly doesn't make it easy to shoot a person. Honestly, if anyone in this thread was threatened by a burglar, they'd probably shit themselves and leg it. I know I certainly would.
I don't give a shit about a shit actor I'm talking about self-defense it doesn't make you an action hero to be capable of using a weapon and having the will to defend yourself.
[QUOTE=Perrine;50228169]i think his point is: shoot the guy BEFORE he gets his gun and not after[/QUOTE] clint eastwood then... jesus christ....
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50228179]You've missed what AKZ is trying to say. He's saying that just because you're holding a gun, it doesn't turn you into a certified badass. It certainly doesn't make it easy to shoot a person. Honestly, if anyone in this thread was threatened by a burglar, they'd probably shit themselves and leg it. I know I certainly would.[/QUOTE] You've already established you have no interest in fighting for yourself meanwhile some of us are.
It's a problem of viewpoints and hypotheticals. People like ElectronicG19 are envisioning a scenario where he is able to ambush a home invader who is himself unarmed and in a vulnerable position where as everyone else is being a bit more realistic and maybe considering the fact that in a country with as many guns as the United States has, maybe this burglar came prepared to defend [I]himself[/I].
[QUOTE=KingGrim;50228189]You've already established you have no interest in fighting for yourself meanwhile some of us are.[/QUOTE] Have you ever been in a life threatening situation before? Really? Has some psycho broken into your house and directly threatened your life? If so, then I apologise. But if not, then it's really easy to sit here and post about how you'd beat the shit into the cunt, when actually you'd probably turn into jelly.
[QUOTE=KingGrim;50228189]You've already established you have no interest in fighting for yourself meanwhile some of us are.[/QUOTE] That's not what he established at all lol. Here, I'm only going to defend my life when someone is 2 metres in front of me and I have no choice. But if someone is walking around and not doing much and then leaves, I don't then grab a pistol and kill him for taking a picnic hamper.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50228191]It's a problem of viewpoints and hypotheticals. People like ElectronicG19 are envisioning a scenario where he is able to ambush a home invader who is himself unarmed and in a vulnerable position where as everyone else is being a bit more realistic and maybe considering the fact that in a country with as many guns as the United States has, maybe this burglar came prepared to defend [I]himself[/I].[/QUOTE] Again, most burglars aren't Charles Manson. They're just looking for shit to nick.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50228195]Have you ever been in a life threatening situation before? Really?[/QUOTE] yes [QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50228195] Has some psycho broken into your house and directly threatened your life? [/QUOTE] no [QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50228195]If so, then I apologise. But if not, then it's really easy to sit here and post about how you'd beat the shit into the cunt, when actually you'd probably turn into jelly.[/QUOTE] Is this your attempt to move the goalposts from "You shouldn't have the right to defend yourself" to "You probably wouldn't defend yourself anyway" because it's not working and only makes you look snarky.
[QUOTE=AK'z;50228181]clint eastwood then... jesus christ....[/QUOTE] [quote]not very sentimental if you're dead.[/quote] what do you mean by this then?
Having been stabbed and being in fights where being aggressive is the only way out yes I know how I'd react. I'd be focused on what to do especially with a firearm in my hand I'd put down any threat to me or my family.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50228209]yes no Is this your attempt to move the goalposts from "You shouldn't have the right to defend yourself" to "You probably wouldn't defend yourself anyway" because it's not working and only makes you look snarky.[/QUOTE] When have I said you shouldn't defend yourself if threatened? I said in a previous post I'd try to defend myself if some guy broke into my house and had a knife to me and I had [I]no other choice[/I](it wouldn't be a gun in the UK) This guy was legging it away, he wasn't about to carve the kid up. Standing there and shooting him doesn't do anything useful apart from get a few material items back.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50228203]Again, most burglars aren't Charles Manson. They're just looking for shit to nick.[/QUOTE] "Most". Sorry I don't think your message of "don't be prepared to defend yourself, you probably won't be hurt" isn't going to convince many people. [QUOTE=AK'z;50228199]That's not what he established at all lol. Here, I'm only going to defend my life when someone is 2 metres in front of me and I have no choice. But if someone is walking around and not doing much and then leaves, I don't then grab a pistol and kill him for taking a picnic hamper.[/QUOTE] I'd say 2 meters is extremely close if you are threatened by someone with a knife but I hear those are well regulated in Britain so you should be fine.
[QUOTE=Perrine;50228214]what do you mean by this then?[/QUOTE] you want to start pulling guns on people, be my guest. I'm just saying you are most likely to die. I am posting this only once: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6tR78d0cmA[/media]
So you're most likely to die by choosing to defend yourself? Lol alright.
I like how half you idiots are calling the kid a psychopath, what the hell kind of statement are you expecting an 11 year old kid to make? [editline]you're idiots[/editline] [i]"Yes, while I stopped the intruder I do feel great regret and shame for my actions, my only hope is that my family and I can go back to a peaceful life after this traumatic incident."[/i]
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