Met police stab dog to death during drugs raid - no drugs were found - Polidicks

[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46594110]If the dog was small enough for you to stomp it to death, what sort of fucking threat did it even pose to you? Sick fuck.[/QUOTE] Because you are carefuly gonna remove the dog off of your wound while he gnaws at you in the most calm way possible. And because a dog has to be small to be stomped to death.

[QUOTE=3com111;46593753][B]A trainee detective constable, aged 39, was bitten by a dog which clamped its jaws onto his leg,[/B] I'd gladly kill a dog that's doing that. People give dogs too much credit. They're disgusting creatures.[/QUOTE] nothing personell kid ;) [video=youtube;-E_lQlTK6xk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_lQlTK6xk[/video]

[QUOTE=Megadave;46594005]Where did I say this was going to start a wave of cop shootings? I'm saying that these people's heads are stuck so far up their asses that they would defend a cop on anything and everything.[/QUOTE] Or maybe we're tired of 13 year olds who hate cops, that might be more likely.

According to the article they didn't just start whaling on the dog as soon as they saw him, they tried to remove the animal from the policeman's leg and couldn't manage because it had sunk its teeth into the muscle. Killing the dog was basically their only course of action. Sucks that it was for nothing, and some would argue that it sucks they did a random drug search in the first place (I'm not one to judge), but as far as getting rid of a dog that's attacking you, there isn't much else you can do other than damage it until it lets go or die.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46594228]According to the article they didn't just start whaling on the dog as soon as they saw him, they tried to remove the animal from the policeman's leg and couldn't manage because it had sunk its teeth into the muscle. Killing the dog was basically their only course of action. Sucks that it was for nothing, and some would argue that it sucks they did a random drug search in the first place (I'm not one to judge), but as far as getting rid of a dog that's attacking you, there isn't much else you can do other than damage it until it lets go or die.[/QUOTE] I don't know why you think it was a "random drug search". They had a search warrant, meaning they had probable cause. A truly "random drug search" would be totally illegal.

[QUOTE=Megadave;46593899]Goddamn, people are gonna start defending cops for shooting babies who have little squirt guns. Take off the fucking rose tinted glasses for fuck sake.[/QUOTE] Found the person who didnt read the article

[QUOTE=3com111;46593881]Dunno. Sounds like one just attacked a police officer.[/QUOTE] An armed stranger enters your territory without permission, doesn't listen to your warnings. Not just dogs, many animals including humans would attack the intruder. And it really isn't an attack at that point, it's defending. Do you believe that the dog was aware that the officer was allowed by government law to enter the building without the owner of the buildings permission? If so, I really worry about your mental health.

[QUOTE=Megadave;46593955]You're lucky that's all that happened to you. Not to say I wish more upon you, but certainly you could've had a little worse than a bite mark and blood.[/QUOTE] Man, are you and 3com111 dating or something? Because you're both posting like absolute trash.

War on drugs, necessary and successful /sarcasm

Since when does the police use knives for self defense? I would expect him to use one of these [img]http://www.tbotech.com/images/detailed/1/telescopic-steel-baton12805993764c546550bf33c.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=3com111;46593840]I got attacked by a dog and hadthe owner and bystanders get mad at me for stomping it to death and then having them get mad at me while I'm unable to use my left arm and covered in blood rolling on the floor.[/QUOTE] Wow, you are an absolutely awful human being

[QUOTE=Solomon;46594730]Wow, you are an absolutely awful human being[/QUOTE] Because he defended himself from something that attacked him?

[QUOTE=maxumym;46593789]While it was quite an overreaction, there aren't exactly many ways to take a dog that's clamped itself on you off your leg.[/QUOTE] shoot it in the knee

[QUOTE=draugur;46594585]Man, are you and 3com111 dating or something? Because you're both posting like absolute trash.[/QUOTE] No, the dude's a fucking creep. I can just barely bare the fact that there was no other way to get the dog off of him, but to demean dogs in such a way pisses me the fuck off.

[QUOTE=Tacooo;46594847]shoot it in the knee[/QUOTE] Taze it Wait

[QUOTE=3com111;46593840]I got attacked by a dog and hadthe owner and bystanders get mad at me for stomping it to death and then having them get mad at me while I'm unable to use my left arm and covered in blood rolling on the floor.[/QUOTE] what a shame it didnt go for your throat

Just calmly let the dog off like this [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qhSwyCgx00[/media]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46594754]Because he defended himself from something that attacked him?[/QUOTE] stomping something to death isn't defence

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46596107]stomping something to death isn't defence[/QUOTE] Dogs will generally not let go of you if they bite deep enough unless you kill them or break their jaw (which will result in them being put down). Dogs are fucking fierce and underestimating their strength is what leads to so many people getting fucked up by them. And they don't attack to intimidate or to scare, they attack to kill like any other predator.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46596265]Dogs will generally not let go of you if they bite deep enough unless you kill them or break their jaw (which will result in them being put down). Dogs are fucking fierce and underestimating their strength is what leads to so many people getting fucked up by them. And they don't attack to intimidate or to scare, they attack to kill like any other predator.[/QUOTE] if you're in a position where you can hurt it enough to stomp it to death you can most likely do it just enough to scare it away as well

[QUOTE=bbc]The dog was not believed to be a dangerous or banned breed, police said.[/QUOTE] Huh? Are the police retarded or something? There are no dangerous breeds of dogs, this misconception comes from the people that raise the dogs to be dangerous. A mean Doberman Pincer or Rottweiler is a causation of the person or circumstance when the dog was raised. The only dangerous "breeds" of dogs are when you do something dumb like breed a dog with a wolf, coyote, dingo, etc. and expect them to behave in a domesticated manner. Calling those breeds is a real stretch because they aren't dogs anymore after that, they're something else.

[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;46596466]Huh? Are the police retarded or something? There are no dangerous breeds of dogs, this misconception comes from the people that raise the dogs to be dangerous. A mean Doberman Pincer or Rottweiler is a causation of the person or circumstance when the dog was raised. The only dangerous "breeds" of dogs are when you do something dumb like breed a dog with a wolf, coyote, dingo, etc. and expect them to behave in a domesticated manner. Calling those breeds is a real stretch because they aren't dogs anymore after that, they're something else.[/QUOTE] It's legal term, there are several breeds banned in the UK, mostly because the majority of people who owned them either were unable to or did not want to train and control them properly.

It would be useful to know more details. Was it one stab that he pushed into the dog? Did he stab it multiple times? I'm not defending it but if he had to stab the dog in a panic to get it off i can understand, the issue is if he repeatedly stabbed it before trying to get it off after one...

So the dog literally died for no reason? At least that's the way I understand it. I understand the police were there executing a search warrant on drugs, but said drugs were never found. I'm glad the officer who was bit is ok, but I think its really fucked up that the dog had to die so the police could continue what was a fruitless search in the end. Seriously, how can the drug war be considered successful when shit like this happens?

I have to say as tragic as it is, I don't think the cop was very much in the wrong. Dog bites are fucking painful and if one's clamped on your leg, there's not much time for rational thinking other than "what stops this quickest". At the end of the day if worse came to worse, it's a human life versus an animal's.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46596107]stomping something to death isn't defence[/QUOTE] Unless the dog was attempting to run away and he wasn't letting it (which wasn't indicated by his post), then yes, it's a defense. Him hating all dogs based on that one event is really stupid but this is Facepunch, where people hate entire groups of people based on the actions of a few so it's not that far gone from the usual.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46596265]Dogs will generally not let go of you if they bite deep enough unless you kill them or break their jaw (which will result in them being put down). Dogs are fucking fierce and underestimating their strength is what leads to so many people getting fucked up by them. And they don't attack to intimidate or to scare, they attack to kill like any other predator.[/QUOTE] dogs constantly attack just to scare & intimidate, why are you trying to act like you know more about dogs than me? [editline]29th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;46596740]Unless the dog was attempting to run away and he wasn't letting it (which wasn't indicated by his post), then yes, it's a defense. Him hating all dogs based on that one event is really stupid but this is Facepunch, where people hate entire groups of people based on the actions of a few so it's not that far gone from the usual.[/QUOTE] there's smashing a dog until it stops attacking you, then there's continuing to 'stomp' it until its dead

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46596748] there's smashing a dog until it stops attacking you, then there's continuing to 'stomp' it until its dead[/QUOTE] If a dog attacks you and you fight back, it's either going to run away or fight until either you or it is dead. It can't bargain with you, it's not human. Either fight or flight is going to apply. If I'm attacked by someone's dog and it hasn't run away after I've been able to get it off of me, I'm going to reasonably assume that it's still a threat.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;46596776]If a dog attacks you and you fight back, it's either going to run away or fight until either you or it is dead. It can't bargain with you, it's not human. Either fight or flight is going to apply. If I'm attacked by someone's dog and it hasn't run away after I've been able to get it off of me, I'm going to reasonably assume that it's still a threat.[/QUOTE] dogs aren't mindless killing machines, when they get hurt enough they will fuck off, sure maybe they'll fight to the death if you hurt them so much they can't get away but generally (like most animals) after they get hurt enough they're gonna run or stop. i wonder how pack based animals who's social order is based on dominance survived when every fight ended in death?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46596799]dogs aren't mindless killing machines, when they get hurt enough they will fuck off, sure maybe they'll fight to the death if you hurt them so much they can't get away but generally (like most animals) after they get hurt enough they're gonna run or stop. i wonder how pack based animals who's social order is based on dominance survived when every fight ended in death?[/QUOTE] Dogs kill people all the time, and it's not as though they're sneaking up on people and instantly killing them from behind or something. If a dog kills someone, it's because that person lost a fight with a dog. Like I said, if the dog runs away I'm of course not going to chase after it. I'm probably going to be too injured to do that anyway. But if it isn't leaving I'm still going to consider it a threat.