• Woody Allen's adopted step-daughter reports sexual abuse
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[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43757166]and i'm going to take the word of his adopted daughter over his.[/QUOTE] Personally, I'd stay cautious with both sides. We're not mind readers and it's easy to lie, but I wont accuse anyone of anything just yet. Then again, I'm also a bit behind on this.
that line in her letter about her asking her mum if her dad did the same things to her is heart breaking
[QUOTE=Rusty100;43757174]yeah. she's a happily married adult. she has no reason or motive to lie. nobody of any maturity is going to lie about this shit.[/QUOTE] there was a lot of evidence showing that she really didnt like her father for personal reasons that stemmed from other, non-sexually-related issues, at least from interviews previously; whether or not he was sexually abusive, we dont know for sure and we have no evidence to show whether he did or not while i know she has no reason to lie, something with as massive implications as this has to be analysed far more than "someone said it so it is/isnt true"
[QUOTE=Rusty100;43757174]yeah. she's a happily married adult. she has no reason or motive to lie. nobody of any maturity is going to lie about this shit.[/QUOTE] Pretty much. There's nothing to gain by taking down Woody Allen, aside from a bunch of idiots on the internet who immediately assume you're lying.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43757166]lets not turn this thread about a piece of shit who molested his adopted daughter and got away with it into a 'leave the pedophiles lone!' circle jerk alright. and i'm going to take the word of his adopted daughter over his.[/QUOTE] again, no conviction, no evidence ever presented at all No physical evidence of molestation, conflicting testimony from the victim at the time, he was being watched by multiple people at the time it was said to have occurred, he got a clean bill of health from a board of psychs, and he passed a goddamn polygraph test which mia refused to take This isn't something that was just passed over. This was investigated professionally. There is literally no reason to believe this happened aside solely from her word. That still doesn't mean it definitely didn't happen, but the fact that everyone is willing to assume it definitely did is just mad.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43757231]Pretty much. There's nothing to gain by taking down Woody Allen, aside from a bunch of idiots on the internet who immediately assume you're lying.[/QUOTE] the fact that this sexual abuse allegation has been going on the longest time, with evidence always coming to support allen, kind of justifies the hesitation to blindly believe what someone who has already shown disdain for allen for other reasons may be lying not saying she is lying, but i am saying that i like having proof before condemning someone as an awful person based on anecdote, regardless of how "normal" it would be for someone not to lie about such things
i'm not saying she's lying but she's lying
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43757296]i'm not saying she's lying but she's lying[/QUOTE] I'm not saying she's lying but we should look at the facts of the case before arriving at a judgment like civilized people and not resort to appeals to emotion that would never fly in any other situation.*
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43757296]i'm not saying she's lying but she's lying[/QUOTE] "i'm not saying she's lying, but i prefer to base my opinions on evidence rather than statements from a source that has already shown a negative attitude towards allen whilst also having lied previously in relation to other allegations towards him; when evidence in either's favor is presented, i will form a real opinion because i dont get swept up in unproven sensationalism"
If only thisispain were here, he could tell us which side of this debate is the morally just one. We are so lost without our shepherd. [sp]Pff, who the fuck am I kidding.[/sp]
i think when it comes to proof it's probably been too long to convict him but the dude is a piece of shit, he fucked his other adopted daughter, all his children hate him and again i'm going to take the word of his daughter over his
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43757328]i think when it comes to proof it's probably been too long to convict him but the dude is a piece of shit, he fucked his other adopted daughter, all his children hate him and again i'm going to take the word of his daughter over his[/QUOTE] Soon Yi is not his adopted daughter. You have no idea what you're talking about.
So, isn't this a story that happened back in '93? Why is this back? If the girl just brought the story back, i'm sorry but nothing will happen in terms of legal punishment.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;43757174]yeah. she's a happily married adult. she has no reason or motive to lie. nobody of any maturity is going to lie about this shit.[/QUOTE] i find it amazing how you know her so well that you can make the bold claim that she is happy and has no reason to lie, and that she is mature (even if her previous actions kind of go against this massive generalization) [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Chandler]because mature, happy adults have never lied about this sort of thing[/url]
This article is a bit interesting. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/02/23/reviews/farrow-verdict.html[/url] The judge didn't consider the review by psychotherapists credible due to perceived bias. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;43757337]Soon Yi is not his adopted daughter. You have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Yep, he didn't adopt her because he was sleeping with her at the time.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43757328]i think when it comes to proof it's probably been too long to convict him but the dude is a piece of shit, he fucked his other adopted daughter, all his children hate him and again i'm going to take the word of his daughter over his[/QUOTE] wow you really dont have a clue about woody allen's life do you i too like to go in, pitchfork and torch in hand, and start using buzzwords and insults rampantly in a bloodlust to lynch a "pedo" when i have no actual clue about the person or the allegations surrounding him
[QUOTE=Loriborn;43757372]i find it amazing how you know her so well that you can make the bold claim that she is happy and has no reason to lie, and that she is mature (even if her previous actions kind of go against this massive generalization) [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Chandler]because mature, happy adults have never lied about this sort of thing[/url][/QUOTE] She's also "criticizing" everyone that has anything to do with him in a positive way. His co-workers, friends, and even people who like his movies. She might of actually snapped, now that I think about it.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;43757387]This article is a bit interesting. [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/02/23/reviews/farrow-verdict.html[/URL] The judge didn't consider the review by psychotherapists credible due to perceived bias. Yep, he didn't adopt her because he was sleeping with her at the time.[/QUOTE] while its true that allen had a parental relation to soon-yi to an extent or another, there was no sign of abuse, and their love is very much consensual and (from our perspective) healthy whether or not he had a sexual attraction towards one (or more) of his adopted/step daughters isnt up for debate, that much we know for sure; whether or not he went so far as to abuse them sexually, while they were minors as well, is something that hasnt been proven however
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;43757387]This article is a bit interesting. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/02/23/reviews/farrow-verdict.html[/url] The judge didn't consider the review by psychotherapists credible due to perceived bias. Yep, he didn't adopt her because he was sleeping with her at the time.[/QUOTE] You realize that by Mia Farrow's account Soon Yi and Woody Allen had next to no contact whatsoever until she was at the very least 18(with the possibility of her being older due to not having proper documentation), right? I'm not saying it's not fucking weird, it is, but it's not him kiddy fiddling.
I've seen this coming for years. woody allen is a fucking waste of flesh.
If we're going to be posting articles, have this. [url]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;43757471]If we're going to be posting articles, have this. [url]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html[/url][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]former nanny Monica Thompson (whose salary was paid by Allen, since three of the brood were also his) swore in a deposition to Allen’s attorneys that she was pressured by Farrow to support the molestation charges, and the pressure led her to resign her position. Thompson had this to say about the videotape: ““I know that the tape was made over the course of at least two and perhaps three days. I recall Ms. Farrow saying to Dylan at that time, ‘Dylan, what did daddy do… and what did he do next?’ Dylan appeared not to be interested, and Ms. Farrow would stop taping for a while and then continue.” Thompson further revealed a conversation she had with Kristie Groteke, another nanny. “She told me that she felt guilty allowing Ms. Farrow to say those things about Mr. Allen. (Groteke) said the day Mr. Allen spent with the kids, she did not have Dylan out of her sight for longer than five minutes. She did not remember Dylan being without her underwear.”[/QUOTE] I'd be furious too in Mia's place, and deeply confused because I was having sex with an elderly Frank Sinatra, and we all know how powerful suggested childhood memories are. So, either Woody Allen is a sociopath, and incredibly powerful and devious, or Mia is lying
[QUOTE=Appellation;43757588]So, either Woody Allen is a sociopath, and incredibly powerful and devious, or Mia is lying[/QUOTE] in order for any of these allegations to be true, he would have to have the forked tongue and intimidation abilities of a criminal mastermind and/or time travel powers
[QUOTE=Loriborn;43757158](though if you get caught diddling kiddies and you're a high profile actor, your life is ruined, whether or not you actually face lengthy prison time)[/QUOTE] ...are you really that naive, or do you know [I]nothing[/I] of hollywood? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Salva[/url]
And Roman Polanski? That's the point of her calling people out in the article, people are willing to overlook this stuff for their career.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43757231]Pretty much. There's nothing to gain by taking down Woody Allen, aside from a bunch of idiots on the internet who immediately assume you're lying.[/QUOTE] Woody Allen is guilty until proven innocent for sexual abuse. Or was it the other way around?
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;43757731]And Roman Polanski? That's the point of her calling people out in the article, people are willing to overlook this stuff for their career.[/QUOTE] to be fair, anyone can commit a massive crime and flee to a country that wouldnt extradite them back to the country they committed the crime; while polanski was able to escape his punishment, it wasn't as if the US government didn't try blame the french
Although Roman Polanski and Woody Allen may be pedos and rapists, it's not gonna affect in any way how much I enjoy or not their films. Anyone who's gonna rate his movies different because of this is a moron.
[QUOTE=Joz;43759976]Although Roman Polanski and Woody Allen may be pedos and rapists, it's not gonna affect in any way how much I enjoy or not their films. Anyone who's gonna rate his movies different because of this is a moron.[/QUOTE] I don't rate their movies differently, but I would never pay money to see one of either of their films
[QUOTE=The Baconator;43754745]thisispain is huge fan of Woody Allen, but he's perma'd. Now we will never know what his reaction to this would be. Are you happy Facepunch?[/QUOTE] yes
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