Gunmen on bicycles kill Chicago child as she skips outside home..
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[QUOTE=JDK721;24019646]the justice system should never be about revenge
and the death penalty in the US is NOT a deterrent
death penalty doesn't scare killers
they can be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole
no it shouldn't
it accomplishes absolutely nothing. the people should be sentenced to life without parole instead. it saves money, the people still have the right to live, they still can appeal and be found innocent (innocent people have been wrongly convicted), etc.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, even if you WERE innocent then it's just tough fucking luck, because then you become the tiny minority, and the legal system can't always appeal to the damn minority. it never happened because it's impossible and is everything BUT efficient.
To be honest dude, your entire view on the world and humanity in general is so horribly deluded I dont even know how to approach your counter arguments anymore. Your mind is blindly defending 'human rights' when you refuse to accept that there ARE exceptions and you have to acknowledge that to have a balanced point of view on the world. Which you do not have.
[QUOTE=Muffen;24019811]And you think a jail sentence does? That's a joke.[/QUOTE]
Some people hate the thought of jail and would rather die. Why don't you think about what it would be like to be in a maximum security prison for the rest of your life?
For you saying that you don't want tax payers money paying for their food, it costs more to have them executed than it does to give them life in prison.
[QUOTE=MingusMajor;24019913]Here we go again. As has been repeatedly proven, you don't care about stopping crime.
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Executing people does NOT make similar crimes go down. They still do these things.
Wow...just fucking wow..
That's the absolute lowest fucking thing I've heard of happening in a civilized country (USA).. absolutely sickening and disturbing.
[QUOTE=Clark21;24020027]Executing people does NOT make similar crimes go down. They still do these things.[/QUOTE]
And imprisoning people does?
The United States legal system was founded on the belief that they'd rather let a criminal walk free than give unfair trials or punishments. All the founding fathers believed that.
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020006]To be honest, even if you WERE innocent then it's just tough fucking luck, because then you become the tiny minority, and the legal system can't always appeal to the damn minority.[/QUOTE]
what the fuck is wrong with you? so you don't care if an innocent person gets executed?
I'd rather have five guilty people be released than have one innocent person executed
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020006]To be honest dude, your entire view on the world and humanity in general is so horribly deluded I dont even know how to approach your counter arguments anymore. Your mind is blindly defending 'human rights' when you refuse to accept that there ARE exceptions and you have to acknowledge that to have a balanced point of view on the world. Which you do not have.[/QUOTE]
yes, because opposing the death penalty is obviously being deluded
and no, there shouldn't be exceptions to human RIGHTS. inalienable rights should NEVER be voided.
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020056]And imprisoning people does?[/QUOTE]
That is the point. People say executing people will make people think twice about things. Wrong.
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020056]And imprisoning people does?[/QUOTE]
you already said this once
and I refuted it
:sigh:
[QUOTE=Clark21;24020027]Some people hate the thought of jail and would rather die. Why don't you think about what it would be like to be in a maximum security prison for the rest of your life?
For you saying that you don't want tax payers money paying for their food, it costs more to have them executed than it does to give them life in prison.[/QUOTE]
But it doesn't have to cost as much as it currently does. The current "execution system" is pretty costly, but if it underwent a radical rehaul, costs could be cut significantly.
[QUOTE=Muffen;24020152]But it doesn't have to cost as much as it currently does. The current "execution system" is pretty costly, but if it underwent a radical rehaul, costs could be cut significantly.[/QUOTE]
and what would the radical rehaul consist of
[QUOTE=JDK721;24020092]I'd rather have five guilty people be released than have one innocent person executed.[/QUOTE]
So the 5 guilty people can go free to kill 5 innocent people?
Also just out of curiosity JDK, what are your views on killing during war?
[QUOTE=Muffen;24020152]But it doesn't have to cost as much as it currently does. The current "execution system" is pretty costly, but if it underwent a radical rehaul, costs could be cut significantly.[/QUOTE]
It Does not matter. It is still immoral and hypocritical.You killed, that's wrong, so we will kill you now.
Isn't it funny how melnek - a person who supports the Us government covering up war crimes, supports people not having free speech like a fascist, also supports the death penalty. Wow, i'm surprised.
Oh look, another discussion about the death penalty.
These threads always show what a bunch of hypocritical, uneducated, bloodthirsty children a fair bit of Facepunchers are.
[QUOTE=JDK721;24020092]what the fuck is wrong with you? so you don't care if an innocent person gets executed?
I'd rather have five guilty people be released than have one innocent person executed
yes, because opposing the death penalty is obviously being deluded
and no, there shouldn't be exceptions to human RIGHTS. inalienable rights should NEVER be voided.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck is wrong with me?
You're the one that wants to release five guilty people who did pretty terrible shit if you're comparing them to execution, but as long as that one innocent man can live his life happily it's all fine and dandy right? :downs:
Seriously, do you even know what the fuck are you saying? Once you actually grow up I can almost guarantee you'll drop this whole liberal hippie shit literally overnight.
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[QUOTE=AnalisMorisette;24020278]Oh look, another discussion about the death penalty.
These threads always show what a bunch of hypocritical, uneducated, bloodthirsty children a fair bit of Facepunchers are.[/QUOTE]
Usually death penalty should be the right option here, they are teenagers and they will probably not spend 25 years in jail, they are going to be disgruntled and will kill again.
Also it costs money to keep them in jails.
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020292]What the fuck is wrong with me?
You're the one that wants to release five guilty people who did pretty terrible shit if you're comparing them to execution, but as long as that one innocent man can live his life happily it's all fine and dandy right? :downs:
Seriously, do you even know what the fuck are you saying? Once you actually grow up I can almost guarantee you'll drop this whole liberal hippie shit literally overnight.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mexican;24020089]The United States legal system was founded on the belief that they'd rather let a criminal walk free than give unfair trials or punishments. All the founding fathers believed that.[/QUOTE]
you hate america
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020292]What the fuck is wrong with me?
You're the one that wants to release five guilty people who did pretty terrible shit if you're comparing them to execution, but as long as that one innocent man can live his life happily it's all fine and dandy right? :downs:
Seriously, do you even know what the fuck are you saying? Once you actually grow up I can almost guarantee you'll drop this whole liberal hippie shit literally overnight.[/QUOTE]
you said that the legal system shouldn't cater to minorities
so it's OKAY if innocent people get executed? seriously, that is a fucking ridiculous view
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020292]Once you actually grow up I can almost guarantee you'll drop this whole liberal hippie shit literally overnight.[/QUOTE]
>resort to saying stupid shit like this when you have no legitimate argument
you don't even know how old I am
[QUOTE=Lemonator;24020398]Usually death penalty should be the right option here, they are teenagers and they will probably not spend 25 years in jail, they are going to be disgruntled and will kill again.[/QUOTE]
Usually if it's not death it's life without parole
[QUOTE=Lemonator;24020398]Also it costs money to keep them in jails.[/QUOTE]
this again?
[QUOTE=Mexican;24020419]you hate america[/QUOTE]
he's blood thirsty
[QUOTE=Clark21;24020253]It Does not matter. It is still immoral and hypocritical.You killed, that's wrong, so we will kill you now.
Isn't it funny how melnek - a person who supports the Us government covering up war crimes, supports people not having free speech like a fascist, also supports the death penalty. Wow, i'm surprised.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it funny how Clark21 - an idiot who loves to label people as fascist for simply having different views to his own, also enjoys exaggerating and likes to be completely deluded that the human race only consists of good people with no harmful intentions.
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[QUOTE=JDK721;24020453]he's blood thirsty[/QUOTE]
yup
[QUOTE=Melnek;24019519]
Execution should always be present in the legal system, it just needs to be heavily tuned down.[/QUOTE]
SO MUCH BLOOD THIRST.
[QUOTE=Muffen;24020212]So the 5 guilty people can go free to kill 5 innocent people?[/QUOTE]
no one said that
[QUOTE=Muffen;24020212]Also just out of curiosity JDK, what are your views on killing during war?[/QUOTE]
if you're being shot at then I don't see a problem with defending yourself
the problem is that the troops shouldn't be in the country in the first place (iraq, etc.)
[editline]06:24PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020457]yup
SO MUCH BLOOD THIRST.[/QUOTE]
you basically said "oh well" if innocent people are executed
[QUOTE=JDK721;24020502]
you basically said "oh well" if innocent people are executed[/QUOTE]
They are the fucking minority, the legal system can't do shit about it.
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020552]They are the fucking minority, the legal system can't do shit about it.[/QUOTE]
could you know keep them locked up instead of killing them right away so you can at least go "oops my bad" and let them out later.
also no one in this thread seems to grasp how much jail sucks.
[QUOTE=AnalisMorisette;24020381]Wow.
You're fucking retarded, and that's as nicely as I can put it.[/QUOTE]
If you're going to participate in an argument then how about you actually present your points rather than trying to act superior to people by insulting them.
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020552]They are the fucking minority, the legal system can't do shit about it.[/QUOTE]
they can get rid of the death penalty all together because there's absolutely no legitimate reason to have it
the US is the only advanced nation that still has the death penalty
[QUOTE=Mexican;24020594]could you know keep them locked up instead of killing them right away so you can at least go "oops my bad" and let them out later.
also no one in this thread seems to grasp how much jail sucks.[/QUOTE]
every jail is different and not every jail is a high security one.
Just put a rope in every prison cell and let them kill themselves. Honestly why care about someone who threw their life away to get some sick thrill out of committing a crime and why have the death penalty when they can just kill themselves if they so choose.
[QUOTE=Melnek;24020611]every jail is different and not every jail is a high security one.[/QUOTE]
jail is terrible regardless
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