I also like how a digital set of sounds is worth more than physical injuries. For instance a few years back I got hit by a lady in an suv while I was on a bike. I have permanent damage to my arms from it. I got 25,000. Of which I actually got 14,000 after fees and ambulance chaser got his cut.
But somehow a song can be worth as much as what I got. :/
Music is worth more than human life now. Hell, really soon, Music will be worth more than anti-matter
[QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;22467856]
But somehow a song can be worth as much as what I got. :/[/QUOTE]
The bottom line is money, nobody gives a fuck :/ it's a sad world.
That's more than the GDP of all but like 7 of the countries on earth :v:
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;22468148]Music is worth more than human life now. Hell, really soon, Music will be worth more than anti-matter[/QUOTE]
[Img]http://www.dquinn.net/images/unobtainium-490x245.jpg[/Img]
Can it be worth more than this?
[QUOTE=Ishmael12;22468444][Img]http://www.dquinn.net/images/unobtainium-490x245.jpg[/Img]
Can it be worth more than this?[/QUOTE]
Yes
[QUOTE=johanz;22468526]Yes[/QUOTE]
:pirate:
So I just remembered I had a 30GB Ipod video I don't use full of music which was given to me legally. I also have a 30 GB Nomad Zen Xtra mp3 player from years ago that works better than the ipod. Also full of music. Bought with it on there already. So I have decided to sell these devices.
So heres the options in reverse order from my actual list prices.
@ [B]$1[/B] per song that's 7500+80 asking price for used iPod. [B]$7,580[/B]. Offer includes free meal for two at Burger King!
@ [B]$7,500[/B] per song that's [B]$56,250,080[/B]. Offer includes a trip for 10 to Walt Disney World.
@ [B]$22,500[/B] per song that's [B]$168,750,080[/B]. If you purchase today you will receive a bonus gift! A free house!
@ [B]$382,353[/B] per song that's [B]$2,867,647,480[/B]. But wait there's more! If you buy today I will throw in a luxury yacht and a free Bentley after mail in rebate! If you buy within the next 20 minutes because I can't do this all day. I will give you 20% off the asking price! A savings of over 573,000,000!!
Listing on craigslist. Also tip for investors. Fuck gold, buy music.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;22469123]So I just remembered I had a 30GB Ipod video I don't use full of music which was given to me legally. I also have a 30 GB Nomad Zen Xtra mp3 player from years ago that works better than the ipod. Also full of music. Bought with it on there already. So I have decided to sell these devices.
So heres the options in reverse order from my actual list prices.
@ [B]$1[/B] per song that's 7500+80 asking price for used iPod. [B]$7,580[/B]. Offer includes free meal for two at Burger King!
@ [B]$7,500[/B] per song that's [B]$56,250,080[/B]. Offer includes a trip for 10 to Walt Disney World.
@ [B]$22,500[/B] per song that's [B]$168,750,080[/B]. If you purchase today you will receive a bonus gift! A free house!
@ [B]$382,353[/B] per song that's [B]$2,867,647,480[/B]. But wait there's more! If you buy today I will throw in a luxury yacht and a free Bentley after mail in rebate! If you buy within the next 20 minutes because I can't do this all day. I will give you 20% off the asking price! A savings of over 573,000,000!!
Listing on craigslist. Also tip for investors. Fuck gold, buy music.[/QUOTE]
Hmm. I'm interested.
[QUOTE=BmB;22466941]They are actively enabling and encouraging piracy which really should be enough under any sensible protection of intellectual property. The Pirate Bay has been hiding under that excuse for way too long.[/QUOTE]
That is a matter of perspective.
Allow me to talk about "enabling" file sharing for a moment, limewire presents the ability to transfer files, along with torrents, xfire, MSN, any email protocall, the list goes on. Now, are we going to start accusing everyone of these people for "enabling" piracy. No, of course not, just because limewire was one that is used alot to commit piracy dosn't mean that it is doing somthing different, it is still providing a way to send the files like so many other things. You can't blame one without blaming the other.
Then there is "encouraging", how exactly? That's pritty much all I have to say on this one. They don't advertise piracy, they don't say "do it". How are they encouraging it?
Crap like this is exactly what happens when people who don't understand the system they're dealing with are put incharge of it. Limewire is P2P, there is no intermetent server connected to the developers, they are not responsible for any piracy commited, they didn't do it. The people sending the file did.
The Pirate Bay hasn't been hiding under that excuse for way too long. It's not an exceause, it's a fact. They are not doing anything wrong! They provide a host for a torrent file that allows people to send files. Some of which can contain perfictly ligitimate files that are being sent. You can't blame the people who created the site for what people do with it. Do we sue gun manufacturers because people used there product to kill people?
tl;dr. If you don't know about the system and how it works, please don't try to comment on the legality of parties involved in using it without at least some basic knowledge.
[QUOTE=Riddler80;22469622]That is a matter of perspective.
Allow me to talk about "enabling" file sharing for a moment, limewire presents the ability to transfer files, along with torrents, xfire, MSN, any email protocall, the list goes on. Now, are we going to start accusing everyone of these people for "enabling" piracy. No, of course not, just because limewire was one that is used alot to commit piracy dosn't mean that it is doing somthing different, it is still providing a way to send the files like so many other things. You can't blame one without blaming the other.
Then there is "encouraging", how exactly? That's pritty much all I have to say on this one. They don't advertise piracy, they don't say "do it". How are they encouraging it?
Crap like this is exactly what happens when people who don't understand the system they're dealing with are put incharge of it. Limewire is P2P, there is no intermetent server connected to the developers, they are not responsible for any piracy commited, they didn't do it. The people sending the file did.
The Pirate Bay hasn't been hiding under that excuse for way too long. It's not an exceause, it's a fact. They are not doing anything wrong! They provide a host for a torrent file that allows people to send files. Some of which can contain perfictly ligitimate files that are being sent. You can't blame the people who created the site for what people do with it. Do we sue gun manufacturers because people used there product to kill people?
tl;dr. If you don't know about the system and how it works, please don't try to comment on the legality of parties involved in using it without at least some basic knowledge.[/QUOTE]
More like tl;dr:
It doesn't matter if they know that they're enabling piracy or if they support it because they haven't done anything wrong, just enabled people to be able to do wrong while staying legal.
It's stupid because people downloading the songs would not have bought the songs anyway if they didn't download it, so it's not a lost sale...
[QUOTE=brianosaur;22466893][b]
what i want to know is how they justify charging 750$ per song. where are they pulling that number from?[/QUOTE]
Where the fuck do you think, there asses.
Oh no, some corporates assholes have to wait another week to buy their 4th mega-yacht.
The record industry is a joke, no one needs them anymore.
Isn't that nearly 10% of the US debt they're asking for?
What amazes me, is that they've managed to turn Piracy into something that only affects big companies.
Look it up. The big sites, MySpace, Facebook etc etc all how big read telephones to the huge media companies, RIAA, MPAA, BPI all they have to do is mention something that MIGHT infringe a copyright and it is gone before you blink.
[b]NONE[/b] of these sites have anything in place for independents who get screwed over by corporations. I do not have the link to hand. There was a story floating round of a woman who was briefly on a record lable before finishing her contract and going independent. The label STILL maintain a Myspace page with her music on. Myspace have essentially said that there's nothing they can do (ergo, they don't give a shit).
[QUOTE=Killerhurtz;22469984]Isn't that nearly 10% of the US debt they're asking for?[/QUOTE]
It's more than 10%.
My iPod can hold 160GB. The largest file being 55MB - Dream Theater's 'Octavarium', which is 24 minutes long. The smallest file: 109.7KB, a 6 second long part of an epic composition that was originally going to be a movie soundtrack.
It currently holds 21.75GB of music, with 2620 songs. This gives an average size per song of 8.3MB. Now, I'll fill my iPod with imaginary songs from that average.
160000/8.3=19277.10843
So I can have 19,277 songs of the same size as my current average.
Going by the retarded $750 per song that the RIAA are enforcing in this instance, my iPod would be worth:
[b]$14,457,831.33[/b]
[u]Holy fucking shit.[/u]
BUT THATS NOT ALL
Going by the cost posted earlier in the thread, and shown against Vanilla Ice's discography at $382,353 [b]per song[/b], my iPod is potentially worth:
$7,370,660,240
[b]THAT'S SEVEN BILLION THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY MOTHERFUCKING DOLLARS.[/b]
Based on this evidence, I conclude that the RIAA are fucking retarded.
Excuse me but..
Dear RIAA *Cough*:
[img]http://i44.tinypic.com/14trc44.jpg[/img]
lol next the internet owes them $10000000000000000000000000000000000 when they realize almost every site nowadays lets you download songs
I just thought of something.
You can easily rip video's and audio off of youtube..
Does this mean youtube owes like 10249124071251289021851029581092 dollars?
If the value per song is seven hundred fifty dollars, and I have a collection of around ten thousand songs, my collection is worth seven million and five hundred thousand dollars. Fuck yeah, hidden money. But in all seriousness, limewire isn't hosting any free downloads on their servers, so how could they even be prosecuting them legally?
In the ToS of Limewire, you agree not to use their program for illegal purposes - even though they know fine well you will. So they're not liable.
tl;dr: Record company gets pissed, pulls publicity stunt.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;22470558]If the value per song is seven hundred fifty dollars, and I have a collection of around ten thousand songs, my collection is worth seven million and five hundred thousand dollars. Fuck yeah, hidden money. But in all seriousness, limewire isn't hosting any free downloads on their servers, so how could they even be prosecuting them legally?[/QUOTE]
Because law has verry little to do with it when it comes to copyright, it's all about keeping the big companys with lots of money happy, they jailed the makers of TPB, when they don't actualy host any illegal content.
Some argue thats because the judges and jury's don't understand how TPB, torrents, P2P systems work. However, no matter how you look at it law is irrelivant. Be it because of people being poorly educated in the workings of the systems they are prosecuting, or money.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22466581]Wait limewire doesn't host any illegal files though do they? Isn't it just a p2p program?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's kind of like suing Seagate for letting users store infringing content on their hard drive
fuckin' tards.
Also, I agree Zeke129 - Haha, epic way of putting it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22471411]Yeah, it's kind of like suing Seagate for letting users store infringing content on their hard drive[/QUOTE]
Yeah, very true. Unfortunatly while people see it like that for hard drives etc. Most people see torrents and think "thats the illigil file". In reality it's not. However they don't know that. Unfortunatly those people are the people who manage the justice system.
[QUOTE=brianosaur;22466893][b]this is what 1 trillion dollars looks like:[/b]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at3MNu8BRwQ[/media]
lets say they do get that 1.5trillion dollars, i bet they wouldn't even spend it wisely.
this is fucking rediculous.
what i want to know is how they justify charging 750$ per song. where are they pulling that number from?[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gILlaMTuOt4[/media]
That's a lot of money.
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