Brown University Allows Rapist who Strangled his Victim to Return to Classes. Victim left to Transfe
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tip for american news: if one side of a news story is unambiguously and obviously right, wait for more information before telling everybody.
[QUOTE=Splash Attack;44646023]Colleges and universities do not generally have zero tolerance policies like lower level educational facilities do. Besides that, it isn't even government funded or controlled. These are private universities run by private organizations.
Furthermore the fact that she didn't bring this to police leads me to doubt whether her claims are really legitimate. It's no doubt a serious offense but there's really no saying whether it happened or not, since there hasn't been any legal action taken.[/QUOTE]
Which is even worse in terms of corruption really. Private unis have to turn a profit after all. Would you rather spend 50 thousand a year on a uni that is known for having rape and assault problems? Or would you go to the competition for the same price? Unis are even worse about covering shit up.
Why she didn't go to the police I have no clue, but more so, WHY DID THE SCHOOL NOT GO TO THE POLICE?
[QUOTE=draugur;44646181]Why she didn't go to the police I have no clue, but more so, WHY DID THE SCHOOL NOT GO TO THE POLICE?[/QUOTE]
The Providence Police Department isn't very productive, honestly
[QUOTE=draugur;44646181]Which is even worse in terms of corruption really. Private unis have to turn a profit after all. Would you rather spend 50 thousand a year on a uni that is known for having rape and assault problems? Or would you go to the competition for the same price? Unis are even worse about covering shit up.
Why she didn't go to the police I have no clue, but more so, WHY DID THE SCHOOL NOT GO TO THE POLICE?[/QUOTE]. You Answered you're own question
So if she was raped and strangled, why not go to the police?
Is it possible she did but what they have on the guy did not meet the standard of evidence required to get a conviction? I am trying to figure out why she wouldn't just go the police.
Did he even rape her? The standard of evidence required to find someone guilty required by that of universities is much less than that required by the law. Is it possible he didn't actually rape her but because of the standard of evidence being lower he was just assumed guilty but they weren't sure enough to give him the boot?
I find it suspicious that you'd not report a crime to the police (in before muh rape culture) if the crime actually took place, unless you were not being totally honest and feared that there'd be repercussions should your dishonesty come to light.
Am I an idiot and missing something here? I must be, someone help me understand.
[QUOTE=Riutet;44648539]So if she was raped and strangled, why not go to the police?
Is it possible she did but what they have on the guy did not meet the standard of evidence required to get a conviction? I am trying to figure out why she wouldn't just go the police.
Did he even rape her? The standard of evidence required to find someone guilty required by that of universities is much less than that required by the law. Is it possible he didn't actually rape her but because of the standard of evidence being lower he was just assumed guilty but they weren't sure enough to give him the boot?
I find it suspicious that you'd not report a crime to the police (in before muh rape culture) if the crime actually took place, unless you were not being totally honest and feared that there'd be repercussions should your dishonesty come to light.[/QUOTE]
Critical thinking in action, bravo. The entire story is quite strange.
[QUOTE=Riutet;44648539]Am I an idiot and missing something here? I must be, someone help me understand.[/QUOTE]
You're not missing anything. People just like to circlejerk themselves over these things and pretend that they know exactly what happened.
[QUOTE=Riutet;44648539]So if she was raped and strangled, why not go to the police?
Is it possible she did but what they have on the guy did not meet the standard of evidence required to get a conviction? I am trying to figure out why she wouldn't just go the police.
Did he even rape her? The standard of evidence required to find someone guilty required by that of universities is much less than that required by the law. Is it possible he didn't actually rape her but because of the standard of evidence being lower he was just assumed guilty but they weren't sure enough to give him the boot?
I find it suspicious that you'd not report a crime to the police (in before muh rape culture) if the crime actually took place, unless you were not being totally honest and feared that there'd be repercussions should your dishonesty come to light.
Am I an idiot and missing something here? I must be, someone help me understand.[/QUOTE]
Most rapes go unreported, actually. (A bit over 50%)
It's very hard to get a rape conviction. The process of gathering evidence is very invasive and requires you to not eat or shower or clean yourself at all until they get to you, and even once they [I]do[/I] get the evidence out from inside of you, there's a big backlog of rape kits. Then for the court case, you're supposed to recount your rape over and over again in front of strangers and your assailant and have every detail criticized. Were you wearing a skirt? Were you wearing tight jeans? Were you at their house? Et cetera. Some rape victims claim that the whole process actually made their trauma worse. And even of the few accused rapists who actually end up being taken to court, even fewer actually get convicted.
So basically, often it's much more trouble than it's worth to go to the police.
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So basically, often it's much more trouble than it's worth to go to the police.[/QUOTE]
You won't get anything done if you don't go to the police. Rape cases are tricky because they need to investigate. They can't just take peoples word on these things.
Lmfao, what the hell is going on in here? Execute the rapist? Seriously?
Have you guys heard of graduated punishment? This is childish.
It's a huffpost article. Do you think, possibly, that there may be some bias in the way this story is being presented to you?
"Rapist rapes someone, gets off scott-free, victim gets punished though."
It's like, the perfect recipe for outcry on the internet.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44650088]You won't get anything done if you don't go to the police. Rape cases are tricky because they need to investigate. They can't just take peoples word on these things.[/QUOTE]
Here's a thought: more people would be willing to report rapes if society didn't treat rape victims like shit.
[QUOTE=Riutet;44648539]So if she was raped and strangled, why not go to the police?
Is it possible she did but what they have on the guy did not meet the standard of evidence required to get a conviction? I am trying to figure out why she wouldn't just go the police.
Did he even rape her? The standard of evidence required to find someone guilty required by that of universities is much less than that required by the law. Is it possible he didn't actually rape her but because of the standard of evidence being lower he was just assumed guilty but they weren't sure enough to give him the boot?
I find it suspicious that you'd not report a crime to the police (in before muh rape culture) if the crime actually took place, unless you were not being totally honest and feared that there'd be repercussions should your dishonesty come to light.
Am I an idiot and missing something here? I must be, someone help me understand.[/QUOTE]
well, they say sexual assault so it wasn't necessarily rape. the strangling thing should definitely at least have gotten him arrested and charged with the sexual assault on top i too am surprised it wasn't taken to the police. maybe she thought the campus would deal with it adequately or something? she says the guy was a former friend so maybe she still didn't want him to get completely fucked over by the law just wanted him away from her
[QUOTE=Riutet;44648539]So if she was raped and strangled, why not go to the police?
Is it possible she did but what they have on the guy did not meet the standard of evidence required to get a conviction? I am trying to figure out why she wouldn't just go the police. [/QUOTE]
You're assuming that authorities are capable of handling the situation.
[url]http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2013/08/23/i-am-a-false-rape-allegation-statistic/[/url]
There are thousands of stories like this one.
[QUOTE=Riutet;44648539]Did he even rape her? The standard of evidence required to find someone guilty required by that of universities is much less than that required by the law. Is it possible he didn't actually rape her but because of the standard of evidence being lower he was just assumed guilty but they weren't sure enough to give him the boot?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Riutet;44648539](in before muh rape culture) [/QUOTE]
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