3/15 Primaries - "I can't believe it's not Bernie! ®" Edition, Paid for by Hillary for America
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I'm fairly confident Hillary Clinton can beat Trump. While there is the "Bernie or Bust" crowd, I can't see that significantly tipping the balance in either direction and the majority of the GOP is so anti-Trump that it could result in his election imploding.
It's funny, the GOP had such a decent chance at winning the white house this year and then this happened to them :v:
[QUOTE=gman003-main;49940167]Okay, maybe I just haven't paid enough attention to political news over the past few years, but exactly what is so horrible about Hillary?
I don't think she's the best candidate. She doesn't seem to understand the importance of certain issues, and she's too much of a compromiser to make any of the radical changes we'd need.
But what, exactly, makes her so bad some people would rather vote for Hitler than for Clinton? She seems like a safe option - another four-to-eight years of Obama, who himself was another eight years of Bush. The country will keep dying the slow death it's in. She won't really fix anything... but she also won't break anything. She'll keep the place running, maybe try to fix the budget or take another stab at healthcare reform - nothing of substantial importance in either direction. Trump, meanwhile, seems to have even odds of actually destroying the country. This isn't hyperbole - after studying him intensely, I'd take a 2:1 bet that there will be either an occupation of US territory by a foreign power, or a secession, after four years of President Trump.
I know about the Benghazi thing, and it was so clearly a Republican smear job that I didn't think anyone (outside the Fox News viewership) was stupid enough to lend it credence. And I know about the email server fiasco, but that's actually not too atypical of powerful people anywhere, and is also being overblown by a clearly-biased investigation and reporting. And neither of those seem like reasons to vote for the man with three pending class-action lawsuits for fraud, a history of bankrupt companies, a healthcare plan that would kill more people than 9/11, and rhetoric so vile that he's [I]repeatedly[/I] said he'll commit war crimes.[/QUOTE]
There is no good answer to this question. A bunch of people voting in the Democrat primary have coopted Republican talking points to take down their party's frontrunner. There is no precedent to such stupidity.
Republicans have known Hillary would run in 2016 since 2008 and have used all of their airtime and government capacity in congress to take her down with a bunch of loosely tied together bullshit involving e-mails and Benghazi. Instead of using all the actual bad things about her (ties to wall street, pro trade, flip flopping, etc), Bernie supporters are strengthening Republican's chances in November by repeating all of this idiotic dribble.
[QUOTE=cody8295;49940152]People are so pessimistic. Wait for the results. Florida seems lkke the only confirmed win fot shillary. The dnc will realize eventually that shes totally unelectable, and if they don't then trump wins.
If shillary gets the nomination im voting for trump and theres nobody that can talk me out of it. I'm not alone either, i feel as though a large chunk of bernies base would never ever suppory clinton out of principle[/QUOTE]
1. Stop calling her "Shillary" it's fucking stupid, despite her shadiness :v:.
2. We're not pessimistic, we're realistic, we all knew it was probably going to come down to this.
3. What makes the DNC think she's unelectable, especially tonight, the night where they have to choose their main canidate for President of the United States of America.
4. Then I sure hope you're proud of yourself when Trump get's elected and starts doing stupid bullshit and making us all look like idiots just so you and your friends and stick it to the man by going with the other man.
Bernie supporters willing to switch over to Trump instead of writing in on the ballot. That's a real contradiction in views. :what:
Marco surrendered
[url]https://video.foxnews.com/v/2553193403001/marco-rubio-election-night-watch-party-in-miami-florida/?#sp=watch-live[/url]
[QUOTE=cody8295;49940152]People are so pessimistic. Wait for the results. Florida seems lkke the only confirmed win fot shillary. The dnc will realize eventually that shes totally unelectable, and if they don't then trump wins.
If shillary gets the nomination im voting for trump and theres nobody that can talk me out of it. I'm not alone either, i feel as though a large chunk of bernies base would never ever suppory clinton out of principle[/QUOTE]
You're honestly delusional, and this is coming from a huge Sanders supporter. If anyone actually thinks that Hillary's unelectable they're way out of touch with reality. The only way Trump would beat her in a general election is if more selfish kids like you voted for Trump because you're salty that Bernie lost lol
Rubio is rip
Poor old Rubio
“While it is not God’s plan that I be president in 2016 or maybe ever, and while today my campaign is suspended...”
Good night sweet prince
Let's be real - if Hilary wins the presidency, it will be 4 more years of similar policies to the Obama era. There might be some changes but nothing groundbreaking. I feel like she's just going to have an unremarkable period in office if she gets there, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49940205]If you're in a safe state then it's understandable if you don't vote/vote 3rd party. But if you're in a swing state, you'd better vote.[/QUOTE]
This sentiment of fear will simply enforce the status quo. I refuse to be manipulated by fear mongering into voting one way or another.
Anyone who's voting Trump when Sanders fails: Don't call yourself liberal. If you were, you'd vote for Clinton
Rubio.exe has stopped working.
RIP my favourite meme of 2016.
If it comes down to it, I'm voting for Hillary.
Would rather not see my friends and family be ostracized for being from Mexico or for being Muslim.
[QUOTE=Prez;49940242]Let's be real - if Hilary wins the presidency, it will be 4 more years of similar policies to the Obama era. There might be some changes but nothing groundbreaking. I feel like she's just going to have an unremarkable period in office if she gets there, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
4 more years of America slipping into the dumpster so an elite few can continue to make more money in an hour than most people make in their lifetimes. Fuck that.
I am loving the 'unelectable' logic. The DNC should recognise that their frontrunning candidate is unelectable, and therefore nominate someone who got less votes? Like her or hate her, she's winning the nomination fair and square.
Operator, please restart Rubot's system.
I can NOT vote for either Hillary or Trump. Gonna write some shit in or just be pissed and salty forever (4-8 years)
Seriously, PLEASE dont vote for Trump just because you're mad that Bernie lost. That's so childish and petty and it's going to legitimately hurt people.
[QUOTE=person11;49940221]There is no good answer to this question. A bunch of people voting in the Democrat primary have coopted Republican talking points to take down their party's frontrunner. There is no precedent to such stupidity.
Republicans have known Hillary would run in 2016 since 2008 and have used all of their airtime and government capacity in congress to take her down with a bunch of loosely tied together bullshit involving e-mails and Benghazi. Instead of using all the actual bad things about her (ties to wall street, pro trade, flip flopping, etc), Bernie supporters are strengthening Republican's chances in November by repeating all of this idiotic dribble.[/QUOTE]
Benghazi is a circus but the emails is a legit issue. People are absolutely right when they say that military personel/contractors who put classified information on a private server would be in a huge amount of shit and it's appalling to see the Democratic presidential frontrunner appear to get out of it scot free. Still wouldn't stop me from voting her over Trump or Cruz though.
[QUOTE=cody8295;49940152]If shillary gets the nomination im voting for trump and theres nobody that can talk me out of it. I'm not alone either, i feel as though a large chunk of bernies base would never ever suppory clinton out of principle[/QUOTE]
no wonder your countries political system is a joke
imagine if people got upset that the labour party lost here so they voted for the bnp instead, it's utter insanity
There's too much at stake to not vote for Hillary in a Hillary vs Trump election, even though she's crooked. I think Bernie would agree. I'm not giving up until the convention, but lets be realistic here...
The only reason I can see for a Bernie supporter to not vote Hillary is that electing Trump is probably 4 years, and electing Hillary means that we probably won't have another new D candidate to vote for for 8 years. Still not worth 4 years of regression.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49940222]1. Stop calling her "Shillary" it's fucking stupid, despite her shadiness :v:.
2. We're not pessimistic, we're realistic, we all knew it was probably going to come down to this.
3. What makes the DNC think she's unelectable, especially tonight, the night where they have to choose their main canidate for President of the United States of America.
4. Then I sure hope you're proud of yourself when Trump get's elected and starts doing stupid bullshit and making us all look like idiots just so you and your friends and stick it to the man by going with the other man.[/QUOTE]
If clinton gets the nomination i hope that not only does trump win, but also that he does irreversible damage to our great country. Its time the american people learned a lesson. Stop electing rich assholes. Shillary will not be president if trump gets the nomination. Shes fucking shillary
CNN calls NC for Hillaray
CNN calls NC for Hillaray
[QUOTE=cody8295;49940293]If clinton gets the nomination i hope that not only does trump win, but also that he does irreversible damage to our great country. Its time the american people learned a lesson. Stop electing rich assholes. Shillary will not be president if trump gets the nomination. Shes fucking shillary[/QUOTE]
You're literally wishing death on innocent people by wanting Trump to win.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;49940267]4 more years of America slipping into the dumpster so an elite few can continue to make more money in an hour than most people make in their lifetimes. Fuck that.[/QUOTE]
And a Trump presidency wouldn't be exactly that, if not worse?
[QUOTE=Duck M.;49940280]Seriously, PLEASE dont vote for Trump just because you're mad that Bernie lost. That's so childish and petty and it's going to legitimately hurt people.[/QUOTE]
Not because bernie lost, because shillary might be ptesident. I would literally rather have hitler than shillary
It shouldnt even be a fucking question to vote for Hillary over Trump just for the Supreme Court justice appointments. Like, come on. Be reasonable. There is too much at stake to make a statement about how salty you are.
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[QUOTE=cody8295;49940300]Not because bernie lost, because shillary might be ptesident. I would literally rather have hitler than shillary[/QUOTE]
Lol
Please grow up sometime, preferably before the general election
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;49940295]You're literally wishing death on innocent people by wanting Trump to win.[/QUOTE]
I wish death on innocent people everyday, why would today be different?
[QUOTE=gman003-main;49940167]Okay, maybe I just haven't paid enough attention to political news over the past few years, but exactly what is so horrible about Hillary?
I don't think she's the best candidate. She doesn't seem to understand the importance of certain issues, and she's too much of a compromiser to make any of the radical changes we'd need.
But what, exactly, makes her so bad some people would rather vote for Hitler than for Clinton? She seems like a safe option - another four-to-eight years of Obama, who himself was another eight years of Bush. The country will keep dying the slow death it's in. She won't really fix anything... but she also won't break anything. She'll keep the place running, maybe try to fix the budget or take another stab at healthcare reform - nothing of substantial importance in either direction. Trump, meanwhile, seems to have even odds of actually destroying the country. This isn't hyperbole - after studying him intensely, I'd take a 2:1 bet that there will be either an occupation of US territory by a foreign power, or a secession, after four years of President Trump.
I know about the Benghazi thing, and it was so clearly a Republican smear job that I didn't think anyone (outside the Fox News viewership) was stupid enough to lend it credence. And I know about the email server fiasco, but that's actually not too atypical of powerful people anywhere, and is also being overblown by a clearly-biased investigation and reporting. And neither of those seem like reasons to vote for the man with three pending class-action lawsuits for fraud, a history of bankrupt companies, a healthcare plan that would kill more people than 9/11, and rhetoric so vile that he's [I]repeatedly[/I] said he'll commit war crimes.[/QUOTE]
A quick death is better than a painful slow death. Only way to change the system now is to destroy it and a idiot like Trump will do exactly that. The only chance Sanders has now is for her to be in thrown in prison. That won't happen, money says so. Money is power, money is prosperity, money is happiness, it controls this country and makes it so values like honesty, integrity, and compassion are useless trinkets to have. America has voted, corruption wins, morality loses.
Don't get my wrong about this, I know the President doesn't have total, complete power. But the Supreme Court is one member short, Obama won't get to nominate someone decent, its going to Trump. The Republicans in Congress will now even fight harder knowing that Hilary is going to run against Trump. They know she will lose. That's 2/3s of the government under control of one party. Lets not forget they do have control of the house right now too. Hopefully Trump's fuck ups will ruin that, hopefully the Republican party won't even support Trump's policies and block him all the way. That's all just hopeful dreams. Donald Trump will destroy us in the foreign policy scene and the economy will fall hard. Let's get it over with and accept the United States of America needs to be destroyed in order to be rebuilt.
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