3/15 Primaries - "I can't believe it's not Bernie! ®" Edition, Paid for by Hillary for America
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[QUOTE=bdd458;49940692]Register as an independent and vote for who you want.[/QUOTE]
If I do, I can't vote in the congressional election.
That's arguably more important than a protest vote
i am honestly on the same boat as rilez as well. I don't know what I'm gonna do with my vote either.
I know I said, out of being salty that Sanders lost, that I'd go for Trump but upon reflection that's a dumbass move that I don't even know why I considered. Clinton is going to be an extension of the Obama administration, and I do agree with some of her stances, but I honestly don't like her as a person.
Would it be wiser to just go with Clinton either way based off her stances alone? Or just abstain or vote third party?
[QUOTE=Duck M.;49940721]Vote for Clinton. Seriously. Dont even let the general election be close for Trump.[/QUOTE]
I live in NY. If Trump carries NY, the election was already over for her.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;49940668]Most of New England will join up with Canada, just for stability and their military. Alaska will go to either Canada (if they get to choose) or Russia (if they don't get a choice). California will make itself independent, maybe taking a couple other states along. The Southwest might join up with Mexico, particularly if Texas does. The Deep South will just stay independent, because nobody wants them and they'll immediately fall off the world stage.[/QUOTE]
i think it's more likely it'll be a slow and protracted decline that will take centuries to unfold.
[QUOTE=Medevila;49940508]an unpopular truth:
Hillary is a totally fine, respectable candidate who has been the victim of a smear campaign by the right that's been fomenting since she lost in 2008 since there was no secret she'd run again after Obama's presidency[/QUOTE]
Yeah, no. Is she better than Trump? Sure, but she's not a "totally fine, respectable candidate". She is without exaggeration, a lying shill for corporate interests. The only aspect in which she has any consistency is her dishonesty, she has no regard for procedure and the law, and will say virtually anything to get elected. She has no principle and no conviction, and literally the [I]only[/I] reason to ever endorse her is to ensure Trump fails.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;49940721]Vote for Clinton. Seriously. Dont even let the general election be close for Trump.[/QUOTE]
or hows about we not vote for criminals
i know im going all in on trump now that the bernster's run is crippled, which is a shame but im not down with clinton being president period
at least trump has agreeable health care ideas, the walls never gonna get built. We're never gonna ban muslims or even humor the idea. Looking at his -actually possible- ideas, i support his shit p. decently
[QUOTE=Medevila;49940508]an unpopular truth:
Hillary is a totally fine, respectable candidate who has been the victim of a smear campaign by the right that's been fomenting since she lost in 2008 since there was no secret she'd run again after Obama's presidency[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think that too and I've just been swayed by the internet popular opinion to think she's some shady person, when really before I heard about this my only worry was her policy on video games.
vote trump, everything goes to shit, but at least something may be changed from this shitfest
vote clinton, everything remains the same broken shit, no one learns anything
enjoy americans, remember when it happens that you chose this
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49940729]Alaska is heavily conservative and they have their own, albeit small, Alaskan Independence Party. They wouldn't join Canada.
And Texas joining Mexico? :what:[/QUOTE]
No one is going to leave the Union because a socials who barely won anything didn't get elected.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;49940735]i am honestly on the same boat as rilez as well. I don't know what I'm gonna do with my vote either.
I know I said, out of being salty that Sanders lost, that I'd go for Trump but upon reflection that's a dumbass move that I don't even know why I considered. Clinton is going to be an extension of the Obama administration, and I do agree with some of her stances, but I honestly don't like her as a person.
Would it be wiser to just go with Clinton either way based off her stances alone? Or just abstain or vote third party?[/QUOTE]
While you should just vote for who you want, and if that means going third party then you should do it, but if the general election is forecast as even remotely close between Trump and Clinton it should be obvious that you should vote for Clinton.
Abstain and vote third party. A cote for Clinton is a vote for the establishment. Trump and the GOP are all terrible choices.
I can't wait for a bunch more random spying bills to be passed without any coverage. I'm so excited for the the power of corporations to go up. I can hardly contain my giddyness at the thought of all that profit that is going to be made and retained.
One day we will look back on this year as the year where it was officially established that society as a whole does not care at all about wealth inequality. Overall, it is okay to have rich ass billionaires that control everything from the media to policy. That is the way it should be!
That is my takeaway from this election, and I'm pretty sure that the richest people are breathing a sigh of relief that they can continue their bullshit.
[QUOTE=Govna;49940359]It really isn't when you understand why we'd switch over to Trump, but you don't, so whatever.
We're getting change one way or another. We'll either get it by our own hands when a raving lunatic like Trump drives the country into the ground because he's got no actual understanding of economics and government, when we're made the laughing stock of the world by his behavior and rhetoric, and when he and his supporters have pissed enough people off we've decided we've had enough (look at what happened with Chicago)... or we'll get it by electing somebody who actually has the honest intention and the abilities of leadership to deliver it to us in the peaceful and official manner that it could and should be delivered in, in the first place.
The status quo is unacceptable, and the problem with Clinton is she's just going to preserve it if she wins. People talk about, "Well she'll keep us afloat a little bit longer and is just going to preside over the decline of the country. And have some optimism, she might not be that bad." Do you not see the issue with this? Do you not see why and how this could be prevented in the first place by electing Sanders, or if that isn't an option the importance of just forcing it to happen so it can be done and over with and focusing on recovery sooner rather than postponing the inevitable collapse until later? And as far as how she'll do, there's no way she'll be able to wrangle the Republican-controlled Congress we're now dealing with to actually get anything done. It'll be Obama all over again, but with more corruption and in a spirit that will continue this disgusting traditional of political dynasticism in American politics.
We've been handed a golden opportunity here with Sanders. He's not like any other politician that's run for president in a long, long time. If we piss this opportunity away, and we very well might at this rate, then fuck it, we're going right to the nuclear option lol.[/QUOTE]
I really hate to tell some of you guys, but shit, even if Sanders got elected its very, [B]very[/B], unlikely he would get almost any of the things he has promised done. Obama struggled to get moderate reform passed through congress. Can you imagine the resistance Sanders would face? I think one of the reasons Hilary is winning is that most people see this.
And I mean really, you guys wonder why Sander supporters have a sort of reputation online. Its because you guys act like he is the second coming of Christ.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;49940514]HOT FRESH MEMES
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4akzdo/march_15th_primary_election_results_mega_thread/[/url]
SORT FOR NEW![/QUOTE]
As predicted earlier, the salt begins.
[QUOTE=Untouch;49940753]vote trump, everything goes to shit, but at least something may be changed from this shitfest
vote clinton, everything remains the same broken shit, no one learns anything
enjoy americans, remember when it happens that you chose this[/QUOTE]
Vote trump for a good economy, safe boarders, better Medicare deals , and fair trade.
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;49940636]All great empires die eventually, this is America's turn now. Anyone wanna predict which states are gonna go to which new world power?[/QUOTE]
I think we could see some states stick together like New Jersey, New York and some other east coast states. I could see them standing up and saying something like "We're the Republic of New England now."
Of course that's unlikely, I doubt Trump could fuck the country up so bad it fractures again.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;49940750]or hows about we not vote for criminals
i know im going all in on trump now that the bernster's run is crippled, which is a shame but im not down with clinton being president period
at least trump has agreeable health care ideas, the walls never gonna get built. We're never gonna ban muslims or even humor the idea. Looking at his -actually possible- ideas, i support his shit p. decently[/QUOTE]
*If* Hillary is convicted then she'll be dealt with accordingly.
The fact that you're voting for someone who has stances that you think people "wont even humor" because they're so backwards and outragous is so hilarious that I can hardly stand it
Saying that America is fucked under Clinton or Trump is pretty dumb, IMO.
I don't like either of them but honestly, they're status quo. And while I'm being honest... Trump is more palatable than Cruz
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49940729]Alaska is heavily conservative and they have their own, albeit small, Alaskan Independence Party. They wouldn't join Canada.
And Texas joining Mexico? :what:[/QUOTE]
Trust me, once troops start massing in Siberia, Alaska will change its tune about independence. It has too much oil to stay neutral, and Canada offers at least some vague protection.
Texas joining Mexico is a long shot, but not impossible. Depends on a lot of factors - how desperately they need allies, what happens during the breakup of the country, and whether Mexico decides it wants to just take it (unlikely but crazier shit has happened in history).
(I hope people realize I'm not too serious with this)
[QUOTE=Untouch;49940753]vote trump, everything goes to shit, but at least something may be changed from this shitfest
vote clinton, everything remains the same broken shit, no one learns anything
enjoy americans, remember when it happens that you chose this[/QUOTE]
The only thing people will "learn" from electing Trump is "Don't vote for Trump again," and probably will elect someone exactly the same. I get that people want change, but why for NEGATIVE change? In the end you're playing with people's lives because you're not getting what you want, and that's unacceptable in my eyes.
If you don't want to vote for Clinton, fine- everyone has their opinions. But don't think that Trump is any better a candidate, because he is not.
[QUOTE=rilez;49940785]Saying that America is fucked under Clinton or Trump is pretty dumb, IMO.
I don't like either of them but honestly, they're status quo. And while I'm being honest... Trump is more palatable than Cruz[/QUOTE]
I think that Trump is better than Cruz too. Honestly though that's not saying much lol
The GOP has become such a total joke
If you supported Sanders and you don't know who to vote for now and you're [i]seriously considering[/i] voting for Trump, stop. Now.
Vote for Hillary. I don't like her either and I won't enjoy voting for her, but aside from isolationist trade policies Trump and Sanders have [i]literally nothing in common[/i].
Go fill out iSideWith. If you're like me and get 92% Hillary and 36% Trump - who should you choose? Are you willing to give up almost half of your valued stances because you don't think the candidate who you [i]agree with second most[/i] is particularly agreeable? Really?
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;49940750]
at least trump has agreeable health care ideas, the walls never gonna get built. We're never gonna ban muslims or even humor the idea. Looking at his -actually possible- ideas, i support his shit p. decently[/QUOTE]
There are a surprising amount of these post, most of them from hardcore Sander supporters. It's such a joke.
[QUOTE=rilez;49940744]I live in NY. If Trump carries NY, the election was already over for her.[/QUOTE]
I doubt he wins NY with all our minorities and that fact that we know first hand how much of a douchebag fraud trump is.
NY is more educated than the majority of the country which gives me a little hope and everyone I know doesn't like trump. A few of my friends said they would vote for him over bernie, but that's about it.
If Trump wins America might aswell change "In God we trust" to "Ignorance is Strengt"
I [i]almost[/i] want Trump now, because then at least he will have the courtesy to tip his wig and tell me I'm about to be fucked.
Clinton wouldn't even buy me dinner first.
[QUOTE=rilez;49940733]If I do, I can't vote in the congressional election.
That's arguably more important than a protest vote[/QUOTE]
What?
As a voter you can vote in any election. It's the primaries/caucuses that have restrictions against independents in [I]some[/I] states
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;49940763]I really hate to tell some of you guys, but shit, even if Sanders got elected its very, [B]very[/B], unlikely he would get almost any of the things he has promised done. Obama struggled to get moderate reform passed through congress. Can you imagine the resistance Sanders would face? I think one of the reasons Hilary is winning is that most people see this.
And I mean really, you guys wonder why Sander supporters have a sort of reputation online. Its because you guys act like he is the second coming of Christ.[/QUOTE]
I think people appreciate Sanders because the guy is basically above reproach. You can't really go after him from any angle because he has been doing what he viewed as morally and politically appropriate for decades. You can't even hit him with flip flopping arguments because he held popular progressive values long before they were even popular.
It isn't necessarily about having him get the things done that he wants to get done, it is about the face of our country. Sanders says a lot about who we are as a people.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;49940789]
(I hope people realize I'm not too serious with this)[/QUOTE]
I know, still fun to think about though
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;49940603]Honestly, I might just abstain from voting.[/QUOTE]
Honestly if some folks are serious about voting for Trump just because Sanders lost, I would rather as many people try to vote for Hiliary as possible to avoid Trump winning because of dumbasses.
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