3/15 Primaries - "I can't believe it's not Bernie! ®" Edition, Paid for by Hillary for America
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[QUOTE=Medevila;49940901]what do Sanders supporters think about him as VP on her ticket
or is Trump still a preferable alternative to a reasonably more conservative Democratic candidate[/QUOTE]
Sanders being her VP would be the only way I'd vote for her. Otherwise it will go to one of the other many independents, depending on which one get's on the Indiana ballot.
[QUOTE=Medevila;49940901]what do Sanders supporters think about him as VP on her ticket
or is Trump still a preferable alternative to a reasonably more conservative Democratic candidate[/QUOTE]
Would be nice, but I'm not sure that will happen.
I don't understand why anyone would vote Trump out of spite for Hillary. One is a corporate flip flop with political experience, the other is [I]the[/I] corporate flip flop with [I]no[/I] political experience. Trump's no saint. He's built his entire campaign on racist scaremongering and unworkable promises. Generally speaking, he's a nasty guy. Do you really want a bigoted salesman running your country for the next 4-8 years?
[QUOTE=Medevila;49940901]what do Sanders supporters think about him as VP on her ticket
or is Trump still a preferable alternative to a reasonably more conservative Democratic candidate[/QUOTE]
Sanders as VP would be awesome, especially since he'd be in charge over the Senate, at least he'd have some say so in government that way.
Washington Post also has a good timeline: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/10/hillary-clintons-emails-a-timeline-of-actions-and-regulations/[/url]
Do note that an Ambassador was fired for using a private email for discussing sensitive, not classified, information.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49940888]I wouldn't call the older population turnout stupidly high.
Our youth turnout is just stupidly low because we're uninspired and see through the puppet show that is the Democrats and Republican parties because we aren't so easily fooled like our parents and grandparents.[/QUOTE]
Younger people are much more dramatic and silly compared to older people. It's actually the opposite of that example you provided: younger people pretend that politics is a puppet show, because being anti-establishment is hip, whereas older people generally see politics as politics, not as a puppet show.
At this point, if Hillary wants to win a landslide against the GOP, she has to put Sanders as VP in order to get most of the Sanders voters onto her (even the Sanders -> Trump supporters)
If only the American people were enlightened enough to realise that not voting for Sanders means you are voting against your own interests
Anyway, Trump 2016
[QUOTE=rilez;49940919]Would be nice, but I'm not sure that will happen.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it would make sense for Hillary to get the young vote, I would vote for her if he was VP without a second thought. I just think she might be too cocky to make the smart move.
Also bernie doesn't seem to be her biggest fan right now, so i'm not entirely sure he would accept.
I saw the Bernie twitter post a picture showing Hillary + Rahm 2016 and I hope to god that's fake..
[video=youtube;JvSiH1eAF3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSiH1eAF3s[/video]
this skit is waaaaay too accurate....
i wouldn't compromise my integrity and vote for trump if hillary wins the nomination but i would have a hard time throwing my ballot in for her
[QUOTE=GunFox;49940909]
The thing is that most people, probably accurately, recognize that the rabbit hole is deeper, darker, and far more frightening than the Bern-> Trump supporters realize.[/QUOTE]
The hole is coming anyways though. There is no way we can keep playing with this ridiculous economy where more than half of the money represents the size of a few old men's dicks. There is debt all over the place and the only reason it still works is because we have computers that can count that high.
I'm ideally for replacing currency as we know it now with some sort of socialized work for luxuries system. That won't happen anytime soon. So, instead, I feel like we should at least have a system where profit isn't held up as some nebulous final end.
I suppose what I am saying is that perhaps some of them think that we will decide to climb out once we see how dark it is, rather than 'coming out the other end'. I don't think anyone wants Fallout to be a thing.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;49940926]Sanders as VP would be awesome, especially since he'd be in charge over the Senate, at least he'd have some say so in government that way.[/QUOTE]
VPs have less power in the senate than senators, they wrote their rules such that VPs littarlly just have to be there for one day of the year
SANDERS JUST GAINED A LEAD OVER CLINTON IN MISSOURI
[QUOTE=Nevermind.;49940897]This comes off as really fucking pretentious.[/QUOTE]
If it does, so what.
My father who is a zealous Republican refuses to even consider anything that isn't worshiping the GOP if it doesn't come from Fox News or Yahoo News along with the rest of his family.
Then there are Democrat voters like some of the people on this forum happy to vote Hillary and continue the status quo, are the opposite of my father when it comes to getting their information and ask themselves "Why is the system like this?"
[QUOTE=Medevila;49940901]what do Sanders supporters think about him as VP on her ticket
or is Trump still a preferable alternative to a reasonably more conservative Democratic candidate[/QUOTE]
I would support that because I think it would be better in the long term; it would give Sanders far more recognition and a better platform from which to argue his positions to some degree.
Oh, and Slate has a good overview: [url]http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/20/hillary_clinton_email_scandal_explained.html[/url]
While yes, the laws did allow for private emails at the time, it was against the spirit of the law. The big thing is really if there was classified information exchanged and we may never know for sure since half the emails she sent were deleted.
For me that's more than enough not to trust her.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;49940937]At this point, if Hillary wants to win a landslide against the GOP, she has to put Sanders as VP in order to get most of the Sanders voters onto her (even the Sanders -> Trump supporters)[/QUOTE]
I highly doubt he will be VP though. He would use whatever power he did have to claw at the system he has been railing against this whole time. The very system deciding whether or not to make him VP.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZoT7AvD.png[/IMG]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/S0580BK.png[/img]
it's the little victories that soften the blow
[QUOTE=joshuadim;49940946]SANDERS JUST GAINED A LEAD OVER CLINTON IN MISSOURI[/QUOTE]
It's not enough for him to win by small margins when he's been losing by massive ones sadly.
[QUOTE=dai;49940962][img]http://i.imgur.com/S0580BK.png[/img]
it's the little victories that count[/QUOTE]
What the fuck? How????
[QUOTE=Sableye;49940945]VPs have less power in the senate than senators, they wrote their rules such that VPs littarlly just have to be there for one day of the year[/QUOTE]
oh damn, scratch the senate part then. thought vp's had something important regarding senate.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49940850]We're kind of an empire...[/QUOTE]
How? Do we have colonies and shit? No? Then we're not some evil empire.
I'm tired of hearing that crap.
The only way Bernie could get the nom. is if Clinton is legitimately prosecuted, which doesn't look like it is gonna happen
I mean we got that trial thing but what did that do? I'm not even sure it was a real trial
Anyways, time to get on the Trump bandwagon so that when his regime takes over I can continue living under his fruitful bounty
My final hope: Hillary gets indicted
That'll never happen though, the Clintons will always get away with anything they do.
It looks Trump 2016 is inevitable, I'm sure disillusioned Bernie voters will not vote for Clinton.
So long Bernie, It'll be sad to see him waste away, his final decade in life spent seeing congress block many of Trump's ridiculous ideas.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;49940970]oh damn, scratch the senate part then. thought vp's had something important regarding senate.[/QUOTE]
The VP is important regarding the senate? The VP stops deadlocks and presides over senate debates
[QUOTE=joshuadim;49940961][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZoT7AvD.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Of the five states voting today, this is the only state where Sanders is winning, and he's only barely winning, whereas three of the four states where Clinton is winning are already declared for Clinton. This state for Sanders is also the state with the fewest delegates up for grabs. Clinton has something like a 350 delegate lead from these five states.
[QUOTE=sb27;49940983]Of the five states voting today, this is the only state where Sanders is winning, and he's only barely winning, whereas three of the four states where Clinton is winning are already declared for Clinton. This state for Sanders is also the state with the fewest delegates up for grabs. Clinton has something like a 350 delegate lead from these five states.[/QUOTE]
I get that
unlike some people
[QUOTE=Oizen;49940899]Aren't we already this?[/QUOTE]
Not really, or at least, not like during the Bush years. Obama and his policies, how he acted, certainly regained ourselves respect from the international community.
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