• 3/15 Primaries - "I can't believe it's not Bernie! ®" Edition, Paid for by Hillary for America
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im voting for trump!
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;49941376]I think Bernie Sanders may have accidentally created President Trump[/QUOTE] Bernie was the only thing stopping hillary from giving trump office
If clinton end up taking democrat I'd say it's better off to vote Trump.
[QUOTE=Durandal;49941489][video=youtube;y-_JhRJ0tWA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_JhRJ0tWA[/video] Some of the shit being said this election is very reminiscent of this. I mean its a bit worse though admittedly.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, there's always going to be people who blow things out of proportion, especially when it comes to politics But I still submit that everyone who has a differing political opinion than me is wrong and also very gay
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49941543]More like calm your tits and wait for the election to end. Seriously this Shillary shit needs to stop, it's just as ridiculous as me using "salt" alot.[/QUOTE] calling her shillary is dumb but questioning her stances and calling out issues in her consistency isn't, it should be a key part of choosing any candidate
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49941592]calling her shillary is dumb but questioning her stances and calling out issues in her consistency isn't, it should be a key part of choosing any candidate[/QUOTE] *In Jon Oliver's voice* "Hillary Clinton is as consistent as my dogs poo. And that sounds pretty consistent, until you find out my dog has bowel cancer. That's right, you just laughed at a dog with bowel cancer. What is wrong with you?"
[QUOTE=DELL;49941584]If clinton end up taking democrat I'd say it's better off to vote Trump.[/QUOTE] why
[QUOTE=DELL;49941584]If clinton end up taking democrat I'd say it's better off to vote Trump.[/QUOTE] If Clinton ends up taking democrat I'd say it's better to vote for just about any independent if you're already looking at it that way
Honestly, it astounds me that a felon has a very good chance of becoming our next president.
[QUOTE=Jrose14;49941674]Honestly, it astounds me that a felon has a very good chance of becoming our next president.[/QUOTE] I don't believe any of the candidates are felons. Do tell.
[QUOTE=V3nom;49941665]If Clinton ends up taking democrat I'd say it's better to vote for just about any independent if you're already looking at it that way[/QUOTE] voting independent is just the same as voting trump lol, you'd just be handing him an easy win by helping to split up the democratic vote.
[QUOTE=postal;49941706]voting independent is just the same as voting trump lol, you'd just be handing him an easy win by helping to split up the democratic vote.[/QUOTE] It really is just better for the sake of national sanity just to go for Clinton in my opinion. If you really wanna vote for Trump that's fine, just vote for him because you agree with him, not just to spite someone.
[QUOTE=postal;49941706]voting independent is just the same as voting trump lol, you'd just be handing him an easy win by helping to split up the democratic vote.[/QUOTE] Republicans say the same thing in that you'd be voting for hillary by voting third party.
[QUOTE=Jrose14;49941674]Honestly, it astounds me that a felon has a very good chance of becoming our next president.[/QUOTE] "You should still vote for her because the other choice will bring on another shoah and cause WWIII" Most republicans, congressional republicans (other than Jeff Sessions) despise Trump for ruining their "reset" year, where they where going to run Jeb or Rubio to try and improve Republican relations with Latinos (Boy did that not fucking work at all lol). He has also made a mockery out of them by capitalizing on the very voters they have been pandering to since the 60s. Trump might get visa reform and better boarder security (I'm fairly certain he knows he won't get a wall from anyone ever unless he personally builds it with his own money which he wont because that won't be profitable), but I doubt its going to be nearly as bad as everyone says it is. He isn't the best choice but not voting Hillary will not end the country as we know it, just like voting Obama did not end the country as we know it when republicans where fear mongering about a black "socialist" possibly winning the presidency.
[QUOTE=postal;49941706]voting independent is just the same as voting trump lol, you'd just be handing him an easy win by helping to split up the democratic vote.[/QUOTE] Yeah fuck voting for who you'd think would make the best president seriously fuck "strategic voting", I'm voting for who I'd think would best be president
[QUOTE=bdd458;49941721]Yeah fuck voting for who you'd think would make the best president[/QUOTE] Ok but I'm still right lol. People ditching the democratic vote like that to just vote on some random independent choice is just gonna help give it to trump. Do what you want tho obviously
[QUOTE=postal;49941734]Ok but I'm still right lol. People ditching the democratic vote to just vote on some random independent choice is just gonna help give it to trump. Do what you want tho obviously[/QUOTE] no you're not right. If he doesn't vote democrat then there wasn't a democratic vote to begin with, it is an independent vote. there is no splitting.
The premise that Trump can (is) run(ning) a successful presidential campaign is a sign that our system is broken. The bad part is that there is no solution that does not cost more money than willing.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;49941650]why[/QUOTE] In the short run it will be a lot worse. In the long run it will most likely create massive change as everyone will get screwed. If Trump sticks with how he is the world will backlash and American politics will have no choice but to change. Which should hopefully switch a lot of republican views at the same time. In short self destruct so a new thing can be built and arise.
Imagine a world where elections weren't so heavily influenced by funding where the only choice is between tweedle-dum and tweedle-hitler.
[QUOTE=postal;49941734]Ok but I'm still right lol. People ditching the democratic vote to just vote on some random independent choice is just gonna help give it to trump. Do what you want tho obviously[/QUOTE] nvm bad reading
[QUOTE=postal;49941734]Ok but I'm still right lol. People ditching the democratic vote like to just vote on some random independent choice is just gonna help give it to trump. Do what you want tho obviously[/QUOTE] Good thing I'm a registered independent and don't vote based on party lines - but rather the candidates themselves :) It's not "ditching" the democratic vote when I was only going to be voting Democrats because that's the Ticket Bernie was on. I was voting for Bernie, not the Democrats.
[QUOTE=Govna;49940359]It really isn't when you understand why we'd switch over to Trump, but you don't, so whatever. We're getting change one way or another. We'll either get it by our own hands when a raving lunatic like Trump drives the country into the ground because he's got no actual understanding of economics and government, when we're made the laughing stock of the world by his behavior and rhetoric, and when he and his supporters have pissed enough people off we've decided we've had enough (look at what happened with Chicago)... or we'll get it by electing somebody who actually has the honest intention and the abilities of leadership to deliver it to us in the peaceful and official manner that it could and should be delivered in, in the first place. The status quo is unacceptable, and the problem with Clinton is she's just going to preserve it if she wins. People talk about, "Well she'll keep us afloat a little bit longer and is just going to preside over the decline of the country. And have some optimism, she might not be that bad." Do you not see the issue with this? Do you not see why and how this could be prevented in the first place by electing Sanders, or if that isn't an option the importance of just forcing it to happen so it can be done and over with and focusing on recovery sooner rather than postponing the inevitable collapse until later? And as far as how she'll do, there's no way she'll be able to wrangle the Republican-controlled Congress we're now dealing with to actually get anything done. It'll be Obama all over again, but with more corruption and in a spirit that will continue this disgusting traditional of political dynasticism in American politics. We've been handed a golden opportunity here with Sanders. He's not like any other politician that's run for president in a long, long time. If we piss this opportunity away, and we very well might at this rate, then fuck it, we're going right to the nuclear option lol.[/QUOTE] This post is why democracy was a mistake.
[QUOTE=DELL;49941744]In the short run it will be a lot worse. In the long run it will most likely create massive change as everyone will get screwed. If Trump sticks with how he is the world will backlash and American politics will have no choice but to change. Which should hopefully switch a lot of republican views at the same time. In short self destruct so a new thing can be built and arise.[/QUOTE] you're assuming that if Trump rapes the global economy people will hold him accountable his supporters have swallowed every other lie that he's shat out, why wouldn't they believe him if he pins the blame on a scapegoat I mean that's what authoritarian populists and pathological liar sociopaths always do
[QUOTE=bdd458;49941767]Good thing I'm a registered independent and don't vote based on party lines - but rather the candidates themselves :) It's not "ditching" the democratic vote when I was only going to be voting Democrats because that's the Ticket Bernie was on. I was voting for Bernie, not the Democrats.[/QUOTE] I never said you were lol but alright thx4sharing
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49941774]This post is why democracy was a mistake.[/QUOTE] What's the alternative? Ruled by an elite few who feast off of the suffering of the many?
Feels good to be on the winning team.
[QUOTE=GunFox;49941703]I don't believe any of the candidates are felons. Do tell.[/QUOTE] Not convicted yet, but the fraud cases against Trump are pretty clear-cut. My research on whether New York considers fraud to be a felony was inconclusive. I did find that he was charged with fraud (Executive Law §63(12)), fraudulent and deceptive practices (General Business Law §349), false advertising (GBL §350), operation of an unchartered university (Education Law §224), failure to meet State standards (Education Law §5000 et seq.), and violation of buyer's rights (16 CFR § 429). I can't find exact sections for the California cases, but they did get certified as class-action civil lawsuits, so I don't think they'll fall under "felony" since that's for criminal law.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49941778]you're assuming that if Trump rapes the global economy people will hold him accountable his supporters have swallowed every other lie that he's shat out, why wouldn't they believe him if he pins the blame on a scapegoat I mean that's what authoritarian populists and pathological liar sociopaths always do[/QUOTE] His supporters most likely will, anyone else won't which unless they all lie down and take it change should happen. Of course maybe the people of america have really just have become that weak that they won't fight back.
[QUOTE=DELL;49941805]His supporters most likely will, anyone else won't which unless they all lie down and take it change should happen. Of course maybe the people of america have really just have become that weak that they won't fight back.[/QUOTE] I just love how when other people support Trump, that's complacency, but when YOU support Trump, that's fighting against the status quo like, yeah, hopefully after 4 years of Trump, you'll learn that voting for a sociopathic con man is a fucking terrible idea and you won't do it again
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