EA considers previously impossible offline SimCity... - Polidicks

What if it was easier to make it online only, and they used pirates to crack the game offline. Modify the crack, and release a standalone..

I'm glad I didn't fall for the always online DRM scam. Sim City 4 Deluxe edition is still excellent guys. I seriously recommend it.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;41334813]You've found mods that work? I must suck at SC mods then. I got like 10 once and only 1 worked :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah like Mike posted, NAM mod is a great start with their realistic highway. SCAG has many airport related stuff. Another guy named pegasus has many quality seaport related things (and other random stuff). Really a lot of the top rated stuff on simtropolis and sc4devotion are good. Once you know what to look for and where to find it the game really changes and becomes pretty awesome with the best mods installed.

And this happens right after it was cracked definitely no connection there

[QUOTE=Killer900;41333222]I think we have the right to complain when they flat out told us that making it offline was not possible.[/QUOTE] especially when [B]modders[/B] were able to make it offline not the devs, [B]MODDERS[/B].

[QUOTE=J!NX;41337670]especially when [B]modders[/B] were able to make it offline not the devs, [B]MODDERS[/B].[/QUOTE] It's funny how modders are viewed as somehow less talented than dev teams. [I](edit: by developers and publishers)[/I] Modders for any game span a huge range of skill levels and skill sets [B]AND[/B] have to overcome things like reverse engineering to get their tasks done. Dev teams are smaller and limited by time constraints and budgets. Modders have all the time in the world, work for free, and there are tons of them. I think the game industry is broken to the core. The fact that every other game is just a slight variation on every other game is evidence of this.

[QUOTE=tirpider;41338561]It's funny how modders are viewed as somehow less talented than dev teams. Modders for any game span a huge range of skill levels and skill sets [B]AND[/B] have to overcome things like reverse engineering to get their tasks done. Dev teams are smaller and limited by time constraints and budgets. Modders have all the time in the world, work for free, and there are tons of them. I think the game industry is broken to the core. The fact that every other game is just a slight variation on every other game is evidence of this.[/QUOTE] That wasn't really what I was saying, but I WAY saying that modder shouldn't be able to say "You can" and at the same time the devs who MADE the game say "its impossibly very much hard to make it offline" as easily and quickly as they did. the Devs literally acted as if they couldn't even do it because it'd be REALLY hard, and yet the modders did it very, very quickly.

[QUOTE=redBadger;41333169]Create [B]larger city plots[/B] and more things to do and the game would be pretty damn solid.[/QUOTE] this is literally my only gripe against this game right now. All of its aspects are quite fun and I can usually play for hours on end but the freaking small ass city plots ruin it for me.

I got that, J!NX. I was just supporting you by going on a tangent. EA saying it couldn't be done was a bit more than a lie, since modders managed to do it. It implies EA also feels like modders are incompetent, knuckle dragging key-mashers that couldn't possibly do something they have an expensive group of professionals working on. But somehow they did it, so EA has to go back and do it so they can make it seem like they care about what their users want. This latest Sim City game looks kinda neato (never played it,) but I have to agree with everyone else about the small plots. It just looks limiting from the beginning. But that didn't stop me from buying it. Online-only did.

Give us adjustable city sizes, the ability to terraform a region (including placing linking highways or having adjacent cities if we want), and a DRM scheme that won't make the game stop working when the servers go down and I'll buy it

I sure do miss the days when developers spent time making a complete game, once you bought it you owned it, and bugs were ironed out prior to release.

This whole situation has pissed me off so bad I'm still flat our not buying it. Its great the community is getting what it wanted [sort of] but an expansion pack for bigger cities should be FREE because of such demands for it. The, at the time, joking predictions actually came true, and its a disgrace. EA has dishonored its family... Shameful display!

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This is the last EA game I am ever buying. I got bored of it in a week.

[QUOTE=Sungrazer;41339517]I sure do miss the days when developers spent time making a complete game, once you bought it you owned it, and bugs were ironed out prior to release.[/QUOTE]Bug being ironed out prior to release has never been a thing. A small group of devs and play testers can not much the scope of an entire player base. Prior to the ability to actually have patches and updates, if there was a bug you had to either deal with it and hope it wasn't too bad, or hope that there was a fixed version released at a later time. Now we can just download a quick update and keep going on.

I don't get what's so bad about EA and SimCity. The always online feature is exactly like Steam but since all of you are Gabe Newell fanboys you don't see it that way

[QUOTE=danelo;41341014]I don't get what's so bad about EA and SimCity. The always online feature is exactly like Steam but since all of you are Gabe Newell fanboys you don't see it that way[/QUOTE] How can you compare an digital distribution service to a game?

[QUOTE=danelo;41341014]I don't get what's so bad about EA and SimCity. The always online feature is exactly like Steam but since all of you are Gabe Newell fanboys you don't see it that way[/QUOTE]Then you are obviously not a hardcore Simcity fan. Literally the [b]only thing they had to do[/b] was take Simcity 4, improve the graphics and fix the bugs, allow for people to play online in the same region, and it would have sold like crack in Detroit. Seriously. That's all they had to do to get every motherfucker who's been playing since the original to buy it. The always online "feature" is fucking insulting, it's useless, and the game itself is a gigantic, watered-down piece of shit.

[QUOTE=junker154;41341270]How can you compare an digital distribution service to a game?[/QUOTE]You can't, he's dumb

I'm not defending EA here but everything wrong with this game is maxis' fault. I'll still buy EA games but shit FUCK MAXIS FUCK THEM Never buying a MAXIS game again

[QUOTE=Killer900;41333151]Fucking Liars They're also considering making an expansion pack that, among other things in it, gives us bigger city plots, but it'll most likely cost money. And terraforming tools.[/QUOTE] Shouldn't be a surprise. They do the same shit with the Sims. I bet pets won't be in the next one either.

[QUOTE=danelo;41341014]I don't get what's so bad about EA and SimCity. The always online feature is exactly like Steam but since all of you are Gabe Newell fanboys you don't see it that way[/QUOTE] Steam forces you to connect to the Internet to start the Steam service. Steam doesn't force you to connect to the Internet to play their games and save your progress. It's an apples and oranges issue. If everyone here was complaining that you have to use Origin to play SimCity, then your argument would float. But, I can play virtually any singleplayer Steam game without an always-online connection to the Internet (barring the few games that have non-Steam DRM). With SimCity, you can't even get to the main menu unless your connection is solid. [editline]7th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;41338852]Give us adjustable city sizes, the ability to terraform a region (including placing linking highways or having adjacent cities if we want), and a DRM scheme that won't make the game stop working when the servers go down and I'll buy it[/QUOTE] Agreed. I bought it on Day 1, and, while I still think it's a great game, EA seriously fucked up on so many simple issues. SimCity 4 is definitely the superior game, too. This version is fun, but EA forced Maxis to reach for an audience that was never interested in SimCity in the first place.

Until I can make huge cities with no limits like 4, then its SimShitty forever.

[QUOTE=danelo;41341014]I don't get what's so bad about EA and SimCity. The always online feature is exactly like Steam but since all of you are Gabe Newell fanboys you don't see it that way[/QUOTE] Except steam isn't always online. If the steam servers go down after I signed in, I can still play the games I have downloaded without requiring a connection, and if you have signed in on a seperate occasion and you start up steam offline, it has an offline mode which I haven't had any issues with, even going off of a straight reboot with zero connection.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41336259]I'm glad I didn't fall for the always online DRM scam. Sim City 4 Deluxe edition is still excellent guys. I seriously recommend it.[/QUOTE] Scam? Where's the scam in it requiring to be online?

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;41343504]Scam? Where's the scam in it requiring to be online?[/QUOTE] Grandma gets suckered in by the Gamestop guy to drop 70 bucks on the "Special Edition" copy + DLC, and because it's opened by Little Jimmy who was recently exposed to Sim City 4 rips open the case in excitement, only to find deceit, anger, and greed. Little Jimmy will just buy Cities XL, now.

[QUOTE=Incoming.;41343963]Grandma gets suckered in by the Gamestop guy to drop 70 bucks on the "Special Edition" copy + DLC, and because it's opened by Little Jimmy who was recently exposed to Sim City 4 rips open the case in excitement, only to find [b]deceit, anger, and greed.[/b] Little Jimmy will just buy Cities XL, now.[/QUOTE] i like your anecdotal story, but is it impossible for people to describe developers/publishers they don't like without using these words? do people seriously think that evil people sit around and go "HEY.. LET'S MAKE THE GAME BAD.... TO BE EVIL!! MUHAHAHAHA" or something? i'd hardly call the DRM a scam, by the way. it's very inconvenient, detrimental to the player's experience if they have spotty internet, and eliminates offline play, but is hardly illegal and isn't a scam. if it was, the fuck are they scamming from people? they still get to play their game, albeit with the ehh DRM. [editline]6th July 2013[/editline] i mean fuck, it says there is always-online DRM right on the fucking box, and journalism sites have been reporting on it for eons. that's hardly "deceit" or "scamming."

Its this guy again!

[QUOTE=Zambies!;41344095]Its this guy again![/QUOTE] insightful commentary please continue