Yale Students Ask University To Abolish Term “Master”
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[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;49157531]Technically it's not that Professors and Colleges have no spine, it's what was said above me.
To add to the fact these people don't necessarily put others at risk only, they also will go on Hunger Strikes which is a very dangerous game to play for the Professors & Colleges.
Can you imagine the shitstorm of someone commiting suicide via Hunger Strike over something arbitrary and not all that integral? Yes, it was a waste of a life due to their own actions but it will further demonize said College and any acquainted professors due to them not giving into their demands.
Even then, the people who are likely going on these hunger strikes are relatively idiotic and uninformed that there's a point of no return, if they even make it that far (Which they hopefully don't.)[/QUOTE]
I personally think setting the precedent of "threaten to slowly kill yourself and we'll do whatever you want us to" is an even more dangerous thing than whatever backlash there'd be should someone actually go die from it tbh.
This reminds me of Beyonce's "Bossy" thing
[QUOTE=Limed00d;49157529]These people should be ignored in favor of progressives working for actual progress but I guess media just love giving these goofballs the attention they crave for those sweet ratings.[/QUOTE]
Media shouldn't ignore this, it'll wake people up. The extremes will always tarnish the good, but your movement should be able to live through it if the cause is good.
If you meant the university, I'd agree.
[QUOTE=Mehis;49157612]Media shouldn't ignore this, it'll wake people up. The extremes will always tarnish the good, but your movement should be able to live through it if the cause is good.
If you meant the university, I'd agree.[/QUOTE]
What movement are we talking about here? Not the master one I hope.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;49157645]What movement are we talking about here? Not the master one I hope.[/QUOTE]
General progressive movement, I assumed. Not the master one ofc lol
[QUOTE=Mehis;49157655]General progressive movement, I assumed. Not the master one ofc lol[/QUOTE]Progressive is a very deceiving term. These people think they're being progressive by boycotting master thing. But is it?
[QUOTE=kweh;49157562]How to beat this generation of people:
throw mean words at them. They will surrender on the spot, or maybe even assume fetal position and cry[/QUOTE]
Its more sinister than that. They will use the mean words to pretend they are being oppressed and use it to their advantage to gain power over others.
I wish all these people would go on hunger strike and starve to death.
These people are fucking idiots.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;49157472]So is master going to be the hot new "problematic" word to demonize? The last one was "thug" IIRC.[/QUOTE]
Well thug is a term that racists hide behind to avoid saying teen with dark skin. Master is a normal fucking word that has no real negative connotations currently
They have warrants why the name should be changed
So far the reason why it shouldn't is pretty shitty and defensive. Seriously, whats wrong with calling it heads?... Also how many of you go to yale? why do you give a fuck about what the names are?
Its like whenever anyone says anything about racism you guys come out the fucking woodwork banging on your pots and pans.
Good thing these sjw radical types only exist on tumblr as trolls and aren't getting into news articles every few days. Right guys? Nothing to worry about.
[QUOTE=Flameon;49158051]They have warrants why the name should be changed
So far the reason why it shouldn't is pretty shitty and defensive. Seriously, whats wrong with calling it heads?... Also how many of you go to yale? why do you give a fuck about what the names are?
Its like whenever anyone says anything about racism you guys come out the fucking woodwork banging on your pots and pans.[/QUOTE]
Because there's no reason to change it?
So, what about the great masters in art? Do we call them "really good artists?" instead? You have master and pupil way before slavery in the United States. The term master was not made up during their ancestors plight specifically to keep them down. Anyways, where do you stop? Do you remove the word retard from chemistry textbooks in high-school, or change therm 'cripple stud' to something potentially less offensive to the overly delicate disabled carpenters? Master has never been solely associated with American slavery.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;49158037]Well thug is a term that racists hide behind to avoid saying teen with dark skin. Master is a normal fucking word that has no real negative connotations currently[/QUOTE]
Its funny because here in the UK I see thug applied just generally to people (particularly young people) breaking the law (Usually for crimes like assault/mugging/vandalism), but then, outside of London, we don't generally have a 'problem' with black crime to racially charge the term, I guess.
[QUOTE=ac/14;49158067]Good thing these sjw radical types only exist on tumblr as trolls and aren't getting into news articles every few days. Right guys? Nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]
Github is now full of them as well :pudge:
Are there any Trigger free Dictionaries yet? I'd love to see how many words are left in it.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49158192]Github is now full of them as well :pudge:[/QUOTE]
Github is run by them so it only makes sense.
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49157010]so you abolish the term master on Yale?
except that it is used literally ALL OVER THE WORLD so it wouldn't matter at all because Yale would still have masters.
And master is a normal english word for crying out loud. Are they saying that we shouldnt have master hard drives too?[/QUOTE]
Honestly nobody uses it outside of these ivy league schools, but trigger words asside these schools do have a massive diversity problem not just because of the amount of minority students they take but also because of the amount of low income students they take, something like most Yale graduates end up affecting government policy on some level, yet the majority of their students are from the top of the upper class, it only continues to create more of a divide in the US between rich and poor
[QUOTE=Mattk50;49157773]Its more sinister than that. They will use the mean words to pretend they are being oppressed and use it to their advantage to gain power over others.[/QUOTE]
And then what, they'll shout louder so that everyone on campus hears them and call me disgusting? :v:
But honestly now... What is the fucking deal with college students being so butthurt about anything? It becomes pathetic.
[QUOTE=kweh;49158368]And then what, they'll shout louder so that everyone on campus hears them and call me disgusting? :v:
But honestly now... What is the fucking deal with college students being so butthurt about anything? It becomes pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Easy as fuck powergrab. Makes you feel empowered with little effort and no responsibility.
I wonder when SJW will ask all people named "dick" to legally change their names
[QUOTE=meppers;49158495]I wonder when SJW will ask all people named "dick" to legally change their names[/QUOTE]Better question is, why would a parent name their kid Dick?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;49158379]Easy as fuck powergrab. Makes you feel empowered with little effort and no responsibility.[/QUOTE]
SJWism is starting to just look like another form of bullying, only the people are commended for it under the guise of "trying to make things easier for the oppressed".
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49158514]SJWism is starting to just look like another form of bullying, only the people are commended for it under the guise of "trying to make things easier for the oppressed".[/QUOTE]Starting? SJWism has always been about socially accepted bullying.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;49157531]Technically it's not that Professors and Colleges have no spine, it's what was said above me.
To add to the fact these people don't necessarily put others at risk only, they also will go on Hunger Strikes which is a very dangerous game to play for the Professors & Colleges.
Can you imagine the shitstorm of someone commiting suicide via Hunger Strike over something arbitrary and not all that integral? Yes, it was a waste of a life due to their own actions but it will further demonize said College and any acquainted professors due to them not giving into their demands.
Even then, the people who are likely going on these hunger strikes are relatively idiotic and uninformed that there's a point of no return, if they even make it that far (Which they hopefully don't.)[/QUOTE]
Which is why those of us who understand how idiotic this all is need to prepare to fight back against a shitstorm in case one of them dies, not concern ourselves with preventing them from dying in the first place.
My university in Kansas City has become infected with this absurdity now. The students behind it are morons and cowards (I know three of the organizers, unfortunately) who want to feel like they're doing something with themselves, and they also just want attention. I seriously doubt any of them would starve themselves death, but even if they did, who cares? What a retarded thing to kill yourself over; if you seriously did go that far over something so insignificant, then you deserve no pity for being an idiot.
An indifferent attitude is what we need to start cultivating in those of us who aren't involved (so basically, the vast majority of Americans); [i]"You want to kill yourself over something stupid? Fine. We don't care. Do it so we don't have to live around you anymore."[/i] Because this has gotten ridiculous, and we need to start wrangling it somehow. Either we ignore it, or we actually start fighting back directly against it. This... whatever you want to call it has become a petty fashionable mass movement that is masquerading as some big, heroic push to end racism-- when the reality is that it's just a bunch of people that want to, again, feel special, feel like they're accomplishing something with themselves, and some of whom are undoubtedly this sensitive and pathetic to things that they don't like.
Who gives a flying fuck about the name, "Calhoun College"? Who gives a flying fuck about H.P. Lovecraft being the artistic basis for a science fiction award's bust figure for 40 years? Who gives a flying fuck about segregated "safe spaces"? Jesus tittyfucking Christ...
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I have been reluctant the last few months to jump on the "it's political correctness gone mad!" bandwagon, but that's exactly what this is. And it's become a serious problem that has exploded across our nation. Those of us who haven't got our heads jammed clear up our assholes need to start tackling it and fight back somehow. It's gone too far now to be tolerated any longer.
[QUOTE=Govna;49158718] Who gives a flying fuck about segregated "safe spaces"? [/QUOTE]
Sometimes you have to wonder whether these students are ridiculously naive idiots or diabolically clever racists.
Or the third option, really naive racists that don't understand it.
[QUOTE=Thlis;49158729]Sometimes you have to wonder whether these students are ridiculously naive idiots or diabolically clever racists.[/QUOTE]
I really do wonder. A lot of them are legitimately idiotic and think everyone can get along with everyone else we can make everything about peace and love and unity, we can't say mean things because it'll ruin this unrealistic vision, diversity must be implemented everywhere, etc. But there's got to be a few clever ones (if not more than a few) mixed in there that are just in it to advance their own agendas.
Some of the non-whites in my anthropology class are racist as fuck and hide behind that ultra-liberal facade. I don't know how many of them are involved with this crap going on at our campus now, but a couple of weeks ago, we were discussing President Wolfe's resignation, and it really said a lot about who fell on what side over the issue. I learned there's a disturbing amount of people in that class who want to extend excessive tolerance to everyone from religious extremists "because they're only doing what they think is right" to the refugees and economic migrants in Europe (because apparently, Europeans are just greedy humans with a comfortable standard of living that they don't want to share with the rest of the world), unassimilated immigrants (as in the kind who don't learn speak their new country's dominant language to function within their host society and segregate themselves), etc.
It was a painful circlejerk to sit through to say the least, and this went on for two class periods, but it turned hilarious for me when the super-feminist girl who sits in the front-left row ahead of where I do got into it with me over the importance of linguistic assimilation for immigrants. Basically, she thinks we need to accommodate them and that it's wrong of us to expect anything from them; I pointed out how the ability to communicate effectively with other people is imperative for them thrive, and how it's important that they not segregate themselves from the rest of us (which is what would happen with a language barrier). Immigrant countries only function effectively when everyone living in them is united on some basic principles and common elements (language being one of those common elements).
I don't know what's to blame for all this. I see a lot of narcissism/self-victimization in these people though, for them and their interests. That's nothing new; people have always been and always will be self-interested creatures. But within our society, I'm seeing a lot more of what could be described as [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphenated_American]"Hyphenated Americans"[/url]. I don't mean that only in the traditional sense regarding cultural heritage and immigration either. In modern times, identity politics has taken over, and "social justice" has been a tool for advancing it on every front imaginable. "I'm gay/lesbian/transgender/etc.", "I'm African-American/I'm Latino-American/I'm Hispanic-American/etc.", "I'm a feminist/part of the manosphere/etc.". Maybe it's a result of excessive individualism and materialism, maybe it's national decadence (we Americans are an incredibly spoiled people; seriously, when you are reduced to complaining about the name of the college you're attending, you know that you have become so spoiled with comfort and a lack of worries that your priorities have gone way out of order), a combination of these things... who knows.
All I know is that I'm getting sick of it, and I'm not alone. A lot of other people out there are too. And this is good. It's the start of pushback. We aren't going to solve anything with talk though.
Nuke Yale
[QUOTE=MIPS;49157421]If Yale is such an prestigious university, how do some of the worlds stupidest students seem to come out of it?[/QUOTE]
Insulation.
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[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49158514]SJWism is starting to just look like another form of bullying, only the people are commended for it under the guise of "trying to make things easier for the oppressed".[/QUOTE]
starting?
[editline]21st November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Flameon;49158051]
Its like whenever anyone says anything about racism you guys come out the fucking woodwork banging on your pots and pans.[/QUOTE]
irony.
irony never changes.
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/20/us-usa-race-princeton-idUSKCN0T91BM20151120[/url]
Why do they always give in to them?
These are not people you want to agree with. Their demands are endless, and they will never be satisfied, no matter what you give them.
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