• Shit in Georgia/Russia is about to hit the fan
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[QUOTE=Da Big Man]I'd fear those clouds, they look like they're going to devour something.[/QUOTE] I bet the Russians are hiding in them.
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]You obviously don't know what you are talking about. As a previous poster stated, they try to do both by having good business, but control the people's lives. Look at the one child policy, if you have more than one child, they force you to abort or if the children are born, they kill or put the other baby into adoption.[/QUOTE] Even a little research will tell you how much of an opposite communism is to big business. It's state-capitalist.
[QUOTE=thisispain]If NATO enforces its treaty to help Georgia, it can't ignore that same treaty.[/QUOTE] If the treaty is broken, cares. Russia is really pushing it attacking another country, without informing NATO of it's doings. I want to hear the U.N. response
[QUOTE=John Edwards]If the treaty is broken, cares. Russia is really pushing it attacking another country, without informing NATO of it's doings. I want to hear the U.N. response[/QUOTE] Why would they inform NATO?
[QUOTE=John Edwards]If the treaty is broken, cares. Russia is really pushing it attacking another country, without informing NATO of it's doings. I want to hear the U.N. response[/QUOTE] The security council can't do shit unless it's in Russia's interests. Russia has Veto power.
[QUOTE=CheesyBob]What. Communism is the idea that there should be no economy, and everything is owned by the state. YOU don't know what communism is.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about Marxism, I'm talking about how Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Kim Jong-Il instituted Communism. That would be the no-economy idealism and completely ruling the lives of the people.
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]You obviously don't know what you are talking about. As a previous poster stated, they try to do both by having good business, but control the people's lives. Look at the one child policy, if you have more than one child, they force you to abort or if the children are born, they kill or put the other baby into adoption.[/QUOTE] Alright. I'm going to explain Communism for you. Communism seeks to take away inequality. Is there inequality in China? Yes. There is. Therefore China isn't Communist. Communism is also one of the polar opposites of Capitalism? Is State Capitalism embraced by the PRC? Why yes. It is. Therefore China is not Communist. Communism also seeks to throw off oppressive governments. Does China have an oppressive government? You beat your ass it does. Therefore, China is not Communist. Communism seeks to create a paradise for the workers. Is the PRC a paradise for the workers? Not in your lifetime. Therefore China isn't Communist. Communism seeks to put the power of production in the hands of the workers. Is the means of production in the hands of the workers in China? No, it's not. Therefore China is not Communist. Shall I go on?
[QUOTE=Da Big Man]It's called a Peoples Republic. OR SO THEY SAY[/QUOTE] US won't deal with communist countries, but we will with Peoples Republic. The people have a say...sorta... even if there say is 1.7% giving no chance of voice, still TECHNICALLY not communist
Does anyone have any new news?
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]I'm not talking about Marxism, I'm talking about how Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Kim Jong-Il instituted Communism.[/QUOTE] That's not communism. That's Maoism and disguised Fascism.
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]I'm not talking about Marxism, I'm talking about how Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Kim Jong-Il instituted Communism. That would be the no-economy idealism and completely ruling the lives of the people.[/QUOTE] okay shut the hell up about communism and china tia
[QUOTE=booster]Does anyone have any new news?[/QUOTE] Give me a minute, I've got about three news agencies I'm hovering over.
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]I'm not talking about Marxism, I'm talking about how Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Kim Jong-Il instituted Communism. That would be the no-economy idealism and completely ruling the lives of the people.[/QUOTE] Those aren't Communist countries. They vary wildly from Proletarian Dictatorships, to police states. Fun fact: Kim instituted the 'Juche ideal', not communism.
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]they force you to abort or if the children are born, they kill or put the other baby into adoption.[/QUOTE] WHAT? Where did you hear that shit.Russia is NOT china.You can have as much kids as you want if you can pay for them all.I see you mister know jackshit about other countries.
[QUOTE=CheesyBob]Why would they inform NATO?[/QUOTE] Sounds dumb but they have to give troop placement reports and military count, as a way of checks and balances
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]I'm not talking about Marxism, I'm talking about how Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Kim Jong-Il instituted Communism. That would be the no-economy idealism and completely ruling the lives of the people.[/QUOTE] Yes, and China is possibly the most economy centered nation, uh, ever.
Some members of the European Union seem to be calling for a cease-fire. [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL8732371[/url]
[QUOTE=CheesyBob]Yes, and China is possibly the most economy centered nation, uh, ever.[/QUOTE] Yes, China would crash instantly if its economy went down.
[QUOTE=Bitores]The security council can't do shit unless it's in Russia's interests. Russia has Veto power.[/QUOTE] I am pretty sure Goegria is part of the UN and as a member it can call on the UN for support, troops, money and medical supplies.
[QUOTE=John Edwards]Sounds dumb but they have to give troop placement reports and military count, as a way of checks and balances[/QUOTE] Oh. I feel domb :(
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]Their business is strong, but look at their policies, they strictly control the lives of the people. Tell me that is not communism.[/QUOTE] Hahahahhaahahha Oh fuck I wish I could sig things so I could laugh this hard every time I post.
[QUOTE=Dr_Chippay]Alright. I'm going to explain Communism for you. Communism seeks to take away inequality. Is there inequality in China? Yes. There is. Therefore China isn't Communist. Communism is also one of the polar opposites of Capitalism? Is State Capitalism embraced by the PRC? Why yes. It is. Therefore China is not Communist. Communism also seeks to throw off oppressive governments. Does China have an oppressive government? You beat your ass it does. Therefore, China is not Communist. Communism seeks to create a paradise for the workers. Is the PRC a paradise for the workers? Not in your lifetime. Therefore China isn't Communist. Communism seeks to put the power of production in the hands of the workers. Is the means of production in the hands of the workers in China? No, it's not. Therefore China is not Communist. Shall I go on?[/QUOTE] Once again I'm talking about the fascist ways the leaders instituted a shroud that says that they are "communist" but really they are fascist. I know what communism is, but I was not referring to the way communism according to Marx. I was referring to the fascist government.
[QUOTE=booster]Does anyone have any new news?[/QUOTE] MSN's reporting that Georgia wants help from the US with getting their units out of Iraq.
Why doesn't China just eat some babies, they eat tiger penis...
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]Once again I'm talking about the fascist ways the leaders instituted a shroud that says that they are "communist" but really they are fascist. I know what communism is, but I was not referring to the way communism according to Marx. I was referring to the fascist government.[/QUOTE]Than use 'fascist'
[QUOTE=Bitores]Some members of the European Union seem to be calling for a cease-fire. [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL8732371[/url][/QUOTE] If it happens, and I believe it will, it won't change anything, it will just push the day war breaks out back some
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]Once again I'm talking about the fascist ways the leaders instituted a shroud that says that they are "communist" but really they are fascist. I know what communism is, but I was not referring to the way communism according to Marx. I was referring to the fascist government.[/QUOTE] China isn't fascist either. You're still wrong, pat yourself on the back. Nice try to get out of the hole you dug though.
OSCE is calling for "an end to all military action in the zone of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict." From Finnish foreign minister Alexander Stubb, [quote]"The intense fighting in the South Ossetian conflict zone risks escalation into a full-fledged war. War would have a devastating impact for the entire region. I urge the Georgians, South Ossetians and Russians to cease fire, end military action and stop further escalation," he said. "We need to pull back from the brink of a full-fledged war. "[/quote] [url]http://www.osce.org/item/32530.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Bitores]Some members of the European Union seem to be calling for a cease-fire. [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL8732371[/url][/QUOTE] They've been calling for one since this morning.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus]MSN's reporting that Georgia wants help from the US with getting their units out of Iraq.[/QUOTE] He said new.
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