• Shit in Georgia/Russia is about to hit the fan
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[QUOTE=CheesyBob]Than use 'fascist'[/QUOTE] Fine, I will use the terms Totalitarian or Fascist from now on.
[QUOTE=CheesyBob]Than use 'fascist'[/QUOTE] He would still be wrong.
[QUOTE=John Edwards]I am pretty sure Goegria is part of the UN and as a member it can call on the UN for support, troops, money and medical supplies.[/QUOTE] But if the security council tries to pull anything major, Russia can veto the decision. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan]They've been calling for one since this morning.[/QUOTE] More of them, or at least Reuters says so.
[QUOTE=Dr_Chippay]China isn't fascist either. You're still wrong, pat yourself on the back. Nice try to get out of the hole you dug though.[/QUOTE] The child birth limiting is a big part of Fascist idea.
[QUOTE=Dr_Chippay]He would still be wrong.[/QUOTE] How? Look at Nazi Germany, their business was booming, yet they still controlled the lives of the people.
[QUOTE=Bitores]But if the security council tries to pull anything major, Russia can veto the decision.[/QUOTE] Georgia is also a close ally of NATO, which makes it interesting how this might come out.
[QUOTE=John Edwards]If it happens, and I believe it will, it won't change anything, it will just push the day war breaks out back some[/QUOTE] Hopefully the situation will defuse, it's looking like the western world is against this.
[QUOTE=Bitores]But if the security council tries to pull anything major, Russia can veto the decision. [b]Edit:[/b] More of them, or at least Reuters says so.[/QUOTE] It can still be overridden by majority rule
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[b]REQUIRED READING:[/b] South Osseita is not ruled by Georgia, it is simply inside the nation of Georgia. After Georgia on several accounts attacked Russian civilians in the South Osseita region Russia moved into the region to evacuate civilians(NOT INTO GEORGIA). Georgia continued its attacks so Russia laid the smack down and fucked Georgia's shit up. The Georgian 'president' came whining to CNN about the land hungry ruskies who pick on smaller countries. The Georgian president also asked for NON-MILITARY aid from the US and withdrawal of Georgian troops in Iraq by US airlift. Russia is bombing the fuck out of Georgia but has not used land forces to rape Georgia. [highlight]Interesting tidbits:[/highlight] The US President talked to Putin at the Olympic games. Georgia is not in NATO and thus America is not forced to use military force against Russia. The US has been training Georgian troops for Iraq(AKA this isn't going to be so easy for Russia), and thus America has two thousand? people in Georgia. From a few pages ago, so it may miss a few things... like the cossacks invading Georgia :D
[QUOTE=Dr_Chippay]Georgia is also a close ally of NATO, which makes it interesting how this might come out.[/QUOTE] Russia isn't part of NATO, is it? If worse comes to worse, couldn't Georgia go to NATO for help, rather than the UN?
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]How? Look at Nazi Germany, their business was booming, yet they still controlled the lives of the people.[/QUOTE] Nazi germany is probably the closest embodiment of fascism in reality, an extreme and twisted version of capitalism.
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct]How? Look at Nazi Germany, their business was booming, yet they still controlled the lives of the people.[/QUOTE] Actually, the business in Nazi Germany was built for war. He put people to work making weapons and paid them from the State. He also removed a great deal of the women from work. It was an economy built around war, without war the whole thing would have fell down like an old building. Politics is not as simple as you seem to think, read up on some stuff. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=thisispain]The child birth limiting is a big part of Fascist idea.[/QUOTE] Even if it is, that doesn't make China a fascist country anymore than labour unions make the United States a socialist one.
[b]NATO[/b] Belgium Bulgaria Canada Czech Rep Denmark Estonia France Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Romania Slovakia Slovenia Spain Turkey United Kingdom United States Russia formed its own little NATO thing during the Cold War.
[QUOTE=Bitores]Russia isn't part of NATO, is it? If worse comes to worse, couldn't Georgia go to NATO for help, rather than the UN?[/QUOTE] No, Russia is not a part of NATO. I suppose they could, whether the UN would do anything is a different story. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=Toline] Russia formed its own little NATO thing during the Cold War.[/QUOTE] And it fell all over itself and died.
It's probably been mentioned, but I didn't notice it. Russian units sent to Abkhazia. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7429354.stm[/url]
[QUOTE=Conscript]Nazi germany is probably the closest embodiment of fascism in reality, an extreme and twisted version of capitalism.[/QUOTE] Sort of like communism (Just using a reference here) were Marx said there should be no-economy, but in reality that can't happen, people need money as motivation.
[QUOTE=Toline]Russia formed its own little NATO thing during the Cold War.[/QUOTE] Referring to the Warsaw Pact, correct?
The UN can ask Russia to stop, if Russia does not comply I believe cutting off trade with the country is the first step, then something, then war
[QUOTE=Dr_Chippay] Even if it is, that doesn't make China a fascist country anymore than labour unions make the United States a socialist one.[/QUOTE] True. Maoist would be the best name. A deadly blend of world-capitalism and Stalinist ideals about society.
[QUOTE=Bitores]It's probably been mentioned, but I didn't notice it. Russian units sent to Abkhazia. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7429354.stm[/url][/QUOTE] It's like they are taking piece by piece.
[QUOTE=Bitores]Russia isn't part of NATO, is it? If worse comes to worse, couldn't Georgia go to NATO for help, rather than the UN?[/QUOTE] are you fucking kidding me :lol: do you know why NATO was formed
[QUOTE=Bitores]Referring to the Warsaw Pact, correct?[/QUOTE] Yes.
[QUOTE=Dr_Chippay]Actually, the business in Nazi Germany was built for war. He put people to work making weapons and paid them from the State. He also removed a great deal of the women from work. It was an economy built around war, without war the whole thing would have fell down like an old building. Politics is not as simple as you seem to think, read up on some stuff. [b]Edit:[/b] Even if it is, that doesn't make China a fascist country anymore than labour unions make the United States a socialist one.[/QUOTE] I am naive in terms of politics yes, now drop the whole thing about forms of politics and come back to focusing the possibility of a war.
[QUOTE=thisispain]True. Maoist would be the best name. A deadly blend of world-capitalism and Stalinist ideals about society.[/QUOTE] It isn't Maoist either.
[QUOTE=Bitores]It's probably been mentioned, but I didn't notice it. Russian units sent to Abkhazia. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7429354.stm[/url][/QUOTE] ...To potentially advise Abkhazian forces when they open up their "second front"?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan]are you fucking kidding me :lol: do you know why NATO was formed[/QUOTE] America shouldn't even be in NATO, the whole idea went against the foundations of America.
God dammit Russia.
[QUOTE=John Edwards]The UN can ask Russia to stop, if Russia does not comply I believe cutting off trade with the country is the first step, then something, then war[/QUOTE] Cutting off trade would do nothing. Russia would immediately just shove a gun in the face of the pussies at UN and fight NATO like men.
[QUOTE=Toline]America shouldn't even be in NATO, the whole idea went against the foundations of America.[/QUOTE] Funnily enough, your interpretations of the foundations of the USA isn't the only one.
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