[QUOTE=Ickylevel]Ukraine was in URSS , wasn't it ?[/QUOTE]
USSR and yes, it was also a Soviet built reactor.
There any live streaming news coverage of this on the web? All the news cares about here in america is what celebrity overdosed or got over their drug addiction
"A delegation including envoys from the US, EU and OSCE is heading to Georgia as its conflict with Russia over the breakaway South Ossetia region deepens."
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7551595.stm]Want to know more?[/url]
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Abkahzia launching air and artillery strikes on Georgians in the Kodori gorge.
60 confirmed civilian deaths from yesterday's Russian airstrikes on residential zones in Gori, Georgia.
Number of overall casualties is still uncertain.
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Force Comparison:
GEORGIA
Total personnel: 26,900
Main battle tanks (T-72): 82
Armoured personnel carriers: 139
Combat aircraft (Su-25): Seven
Heavy artillery pieces (including Grad rocket launchers): 95
RUSSIA
Total personnel: 641,000
Main battle tanks (various): 6,717
Armoured personnel carriers: 6,388
Combat aircraft (various): 1,206
Heavy artillery pieces (various): 7,550
[QUOTE=Ickylevel]Ukraine was in URSS , wasn't it ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kilr]USSR and yes, it was also a Soviet built reactor.[/QUOTE]
The more I know, the dumber I get. This is something that I never knew about. I feel dumb. :v:
[QUOTE=Bitores]"A delegation including envoys from the US, EU and OSCE is heading to Georgia as its conflict with Russia over the breakaway South Ossetia region deepens."
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7551595.stm]Want to know more?[/url]
[b]Edit:[/b]
Abkahzia launching air and artillery strikes on Georgians in the Kodori gorge.
60 confirmed civilian deaths from yesterday's Russian airstrikes on residential zones in Gori, Georgia.
Number of overall casualties is still uncertain.
[b]Edit:[/b]
Force Comparison:
GEORGIA
Total personnel: 26,900
Main battle tanks (T-72): 82
Armoured personnel carriers: 139
Combat aircraft (Su-25): Seven
Heavy artillery pieces (including Grad rocket launchers): 95
RUSSIA
Total personnel: 641,000
Main battle tanks (various): 6,717
Armoured personnel carriers: 6,388
Combat aircraft (various): 1,206
Heavy artillery pieces (various): 7,550[/QUOTE]
Yea but Russia is still using 4 engined propeller bombers!
[img]http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/f22/f22_tu95bear.jpg[/img]
I wouldn't count on Georgia winning if the war were to rage on, but damn I bet it might even be close
By the by, that image was near Alaska when F-22's intercepted the Russian Bomber for getting too close
[QUOTE=Kilr]Actually, Russia did detonate the world's most powerful nuclear bomb, but I'm not sure if it's still the most powerful ever built.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it was the most powerful ever built. They had to scale it down otherwise the fallout from the test would affect other countries. I don't think America bothered with nukes to compete with the Tsar Bomba, since that would be quite OTT for taking out cities.
Map of the conflict area:
[img]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44907000/gif/_44907270_georgia466.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=TheTalon]Yea but Russia is still using 4 engined propeller bombers!
[img]http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/f22/f22_tu95bear.jpg[/img]
I wouldn't count on Georgia winning if the war were to rage on, but damn I bet it might even be close
By the by, that image was near Alaska when F-22's intercepted the Russian Bomber for getting too close[/QUOTE]
those bombers are apparently pretty damn capable considering they fly high as fuck
[QUOTE=MrSman]In fact, this means that Bush is blessed Georgia to the aggression against the peaceful population of South Ossetia. The truth. Ru 16:03 - Bush's an idiot... He doesn't know that he fucks with the country that has the best military power in the world.[/QUOTE]
Isn't more than half of Russia's shit outdated/old/useless?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan]those bombers are apparently pretty damn capable considering they fly high as fuck[/QUOTE]
This ^
[QUOTE=TheTalon]Yea but Russia is still using 4 engined propeller bombers!
[img]http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/f22/f22_tu95bear.jpg[/img]
I wouldn't count on Georgia winning if the war were to rage on, but damn I bet it might even be close
By the by, that image was near Alaska when F-22's intercepted the Russian Bomber for getting too close[/QUOTE]
That thing is skinny as fuck.
[QUOTE=TheTalon]Yea but Russia is still using 4 engined propeller bombers!
[img]http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/f22/f22_tu95bear.jpg[/img]
I wouldn't count on Georgia winning if the war were to rage on, but damn I bet it might even be close
By the by, that image was near Alaska when F-22's intercepted the Russian Bomber for getting too close[/QUOTE]
Russia used it to transport a mega huge ass nuclear bomb, wich is NOT POSSIBLE with F-22
[QUOTE=tankkiller]Isn't more than half of Russia's shit outdated/old/useless?[/QUOTE]
Not every country is like the US, where they throw the old shit out when they get the newer ULTRA SUPA STEALTH 5000 equipment.
[QUOTE=tankkiller]Isn't more than half of Russia's shit outdated/old/useless?[/QUOTE]
A good chunk of it. They also have a draft. Although a lot of it is able to compete during conflict, i.e the AK series and the RGP-7.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan]those bombers are apparently pretty damn capable considering they fly high as fuck[/QUOTE]
Send a fleet of them anywhere, you'd have to pull the old WW2 American Bombing strategy, Waves of a TON of them, even then in today's world they'd ALL be shot down, Easily, and by very few Aircraft... Some countries, like Georgia -.- Might have issues against them though, I'm sure in conflicts like the one they are in now they would be pretty useful... Cheap, Cheap to maintain, But there are far better alternatives out there
[QUOTE=MrSman]Russia used it to transport a mega huge ass nuclear bomb.[/QUOTE]
The Tsar Bomb doesn't matter, because Medvedev, like I believe I stated earlier, though he is an idiot, is not stupid enough to nuke Georgia.
[QUOTE=tankkiller]Isn't more than half of Russia's shit outdated/old/useless?[/QUOTE]
No no, don't get me wrong, Russia's stuff isn't more advanced than the US's, but they do have some pretty good shit, and they would put up a tough fight.
But hell, the United States, even with all its high tech shit, is having trouble taking care of insurgents who don't even use tanks. All they have are bombs and AK-47s.
[QUOTE=TheTalon]Yea but Russia is still using 4 engined propeller bombers!
[img]http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/f22/f22_tu95bear.jpg[/img]
I wouldn't count on Georgia winning if the war were to rage on, but damn I bet it might even be close
By the by, that image was near Alaska when F-22's intercepted the Russian Bomber for getting too close[/QUOTE]
The Tu-95 is a fine aircraft, one of the fastest propeller-driven aircraft ever built, I believe.[QUOTE=Bitores]Force Comparison:
GEORGIA
Total personnel: 26,900
Main battle tanks (T-72): 82
Armoured personnel carriers: 139
Combat aircraft (Su-25): Seven
Heavy artillery pieces (including Grad rocket launchers): 95
RUSSIA
Total personnel: 641,000
Main battle tanks (various): 6,717
Armoured personnel carriers: 6,388
Combat aircraft (various): 1,206
Heavy artillery pieces (various): 7,550[/QUOTE]
Haha, that kind of puts things into perspective :v:
[QUOTE=MrSman]Russia used it to transport a mega huge ass nuclear bomb, wich is NOT POSSIBLE with F-22[/QUOTE]
Alright you're just a troll.
[QUOTE=T1L_Goose]No no, don't get me wrong, Russia's stuff isn't more advanced than the US's, but they do have some pretty good shit, and they would put up a tough fight.
But hell, the United States, even with all its high tech shit, is having trouble taking care of insurgents who don't even use tanks. All they have are bombs and AK-47s.[/QUOTE]
Russia has a military that doesn't wear civilian clothes and hides behind women and children, takes 5 shots at someone, then hauls ass so to not get completely owned... I'm sure if you tallied up all insurgent deaths vs Coalition deaths, the ratio would be tipped in our favor.... by a lot, Not to mention, we went in there and basically had the country invaded and beaten in a couple weeks, That's what a military is good for, especially ours... We have been using them as police which... is not what the military is for, and 70% of all our casualties are from cowards who hide a bomb, then hide themselves and detonate it, and even then 70% of those miss
[QUOTE=TheTalon]Russia has a military that doesn't wear civilian clothes and hides behind women and children, takes 5 shots at someone, then hauls ass so to not get completely owned... I'm sure if you tallied up all insurgent deaths vs Coalition deaths, the ratio would be tipped in our favor.... by a lot[/QUOTE]
I'm just saying, Russia would put up a tough fight.
[QUOTE=T1L_Goose]I'm just saying, Russia would put up a tough fight.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, much tougher for whichever of the countries would be doing the invading, regardless of force size and strength
Listen, to all those who are saying that Georgia 100% for sure started the war, we still don't know. Russia could have sent forces with S. Ossetia to attack Georgia. However, it doesn't make the most sense because Georgia went all the way to the capital. We'll see the whole truth after the war.
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0850115420080809[/url]
Seems the US is telling Russia how naughty it is.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom][url]http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0850115420080809[/url]
Seems the US is telling Russia how naughty it is.[/QUOTE]
This is it.
This is how it starts.
I'm moving to Canada fuck this shit.
[QUOTE=MrSman]It is[/QUOTE]
If we're talking about the Tsar Bomba, they built two. One was detonated and the other is an empty bomb-shaped case on display in a museum.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom]The Tu-95 is a fine aircraft, one of the fastest propeller-driven aircraft ever built, I believe.
Haha, that kind of puts things into perspective :v:[/QUOTE]
I like Georgia's Air Force, my money's on them. :downs:
[QUOTE=Bitores]I like Georgia's Air Force, my money's on them. :downs:[/QUOTE]
I bet the 7 of them end up Seven-Handedly winning the war for Georgia!
Could only hope, I mean, would Georgia REALLY provoke a country so drastically larger than itself?
*Remembers Germany...Twice...*
I'm staying away from countries that begin with G
[QUOTE=T1L_Goose]I'm just saying, Russia would put up a tough fight.[/QUOTE]
All comes to down to number of troops / distance of engagement. An AK-74 / 74 > M16 series at close range, since it's designed with a "Spray 'n Pray" mindest.
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