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[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;44923607]HOW DOES THAT MAKE IT BETTER/NORMAL !?[/QUOTE] Y'know...Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws...but also the most gun violence. The problem is, if you want a gun, you can get a gun, legally or illegally. BUT! When only gangsters & police have the guns, it's a bigger problem. Because A) the gangsters have fucking AK fucking 47s & B) the police are scared shitless by said AK-47s and don't even patrol the worst parts of Chicago, a city where guns are prohibited. It's simple, just look at Texas. They have the most guns per person but also the least gun violence in the country. You know why? Because for all the work they don't put into sex ed, they put it into guns. When everyone has a gun and is well-trained with them, it's not as scary, because knowledge IS power. A whole chunk of gun violence in the [I]world[/I] is accidental, people that don't know how to use guns get guns and don't know what a safety is. At the end of the day, it comes to education. If you know better, chances are you do better. Texas knows a lot about guns and has the least gun violence. It doesn't take a statistics genius to put 2 and 2 together.
[QUOTE=dai;44924781]a small segment of the gang population in the shitty south end neighborhood [I]allegedly[/I] call it chiraq, though it's only been put out in some documentary and by that standard it could have been just one clique who thought it made them sound tougher for the doc. I have never heard a human being utter that word outside of dipshits flinging around talking points about how "gun laws don't work" without understanding that the city isn't a wild west shootout. It's literally safer than all of england comparing ALL violent crime statistics against each other, and time and time again people will point out that it's just two extremely localized poverty-stricken zones where any of that gang violence thrives copying an old bit from one of my posts on this and why is it just some vague "there's a reason" shit. compare this post from a year ago- YOU are the 'they' who's calling it Chiraq, and the reason is bullshit.[/QUOTE] Are the requirements for something being called a violent crime the same in the UK and the US?
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44922984] [editline]27th May 2014[/editline] African Americans display a higher propensity for violence, especially armed, than other ethnicities. Look up crime statistics. There's a clear-cut pattern. Also dude I live in Clearwater most of the black guys here are in a gang. [/QUOTE] Woah, it's like African-Americans were under-privileged of a proper education up until the late 1960s! They're more violent because they're (in average) less educated. They're less educated because the rest of the country refused to give them an education. In the end, blame politics. :v:
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44922984]African Americans display a higher propensity for violence, especially armed, than other ethnicities.[/QUOTE] this, along with your endorsement of psuedosciences is one of the very many reasons why we could never be friends
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44923027]It's not the rednecks with hunting shotguns they're afraid of. It's those militia types in Utah. Also all of the rednecks that own semiautomatic rifles in .308, .338, and .50 with 12x scopes and could pop the head of a squirrel from half a mile away. Fear the redneck[/QUOTE] It's funny how you make this post immediately after saying that black people are more predisposed to criminality. It's almost like you've stumbled into the fact that poverty is what promotes crime, not skin colour, without even knowing it. A lower percentage of white people are poor so you see relatively less crime caused by white people, sure. But when a black person shoots someone it's "because he's black", yet when a white person shoots someone it's "because he's poor/mentally ill/etc".
Calling Chicago [B]Chiraq[/B] isn't fair. Iraq's nicer than that. Chicago is about 40 billion times smaller with a much denser population. Therefore, Chicago is so much more violent than Iraq could ever wish to be [highlight](User was banned for this post ("threadshitting" - dai))[/highlight]
I'm done, I'm out I can't handle this thread
[QUOTE=Masterofstars;44924997]No they're not you're just racist, holy shit.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Mr. Face;44925019]Oh yes racism, this is exactly what we need. Grow up.[/QUOTE] Crying racism doesn't make me wrong, and it doesn't make Los Angeles not exist. [url=http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/america-s-elusive-crime-statistics-by-race/]One source[/url] but check others for yourself. I ain't saying all black people are criminals, I'm saying a larger number of criminals are black
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925127]Crying racism doesn't make me wrong, and it doesn't make Los Angeles not exist.[/QUOTE] There are plenty of other factors that make you wrong don't worry
[QUOTE=Zeke129;44925133]There are plenty of other factors that make you wrong don't worry[/QUOTE] No there's not. Check my cited source and do some research for yourself if you don't believe me.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925127]Crying racism doesn't make me wrong, and it doesn't make Los Angeles not exist. [url=http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/america-s-elusive-crime-statistics-by-race/]One source[/url] but check others for yourself. I ain't saying all black people are criminals, I'm saying a larger number of criminals are black[/QUOTE] Oh hey imagine that, one of the most poverty stricken areas in the US is known for having violence in its past. Don't pull the Compton card on me.
The Chicago vs London and Wales is bullshit. Chicago as a city has a pop. of ~ 2 mil. London and Wales - ~ 50 mil.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925127][url=http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/america-s-elusive-crime-statistics-by-race/]One source[/url] but check others for yourself.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.gyazo.com/dc675036336b160c3a967265462a8a8d.png[/img] whiteout press is the same one which claims autism is caused by vaccines [url]http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/courts-quietly-confirm-mmr-vaccine-causes-autism/[/url]
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;44925152]The Chicago vs London and Wales is bullshit. Chicago as a city has a pop. of ~ 2 mil. London and Wales - ~ 50 mil.[/QUOTE] Those are per-capita numbers, dude. Percentages don't change just because the population does.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925127]Crying racism doesn't make me wrong, and it doesn't make Los Angeles not exist. [url=http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/america-s-elusive-crime-statistics-by-race/]One source[/url] but check others for yourself. I ain't saying all black people are criminals, I'm saying a larger number of criminals are black[/QUOTE] Poverty is the prime driving factor behind crime, not race. More black people are at a disadvantage compared to white people economically so they form a higher proportion of criminals. I think this is simple enough for you to understand.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;44925175]Poverty is the prime driving factor behind crime, not race. More black people are at a disadvantage compared to white people economically so they form a higher proportion of criminals. I think this is simple enough for you to understand.[/QUOTE] Dude we're talking about Telepethi aka Ven Kaeo here. He doesn't have a history of understanding simple things.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44925163][img]http://i.gyazo.com/dc675036336b160c3a967265462a8a8d.png[/img] whiteout press is the same one which claims autism is caused by vaccines [url]http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/courts-quietly-confirm-mmr-vaccine-causes-autism/[/url][/QUOTE] Don't like that source? [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449156/]How about Doctors Sampson, Morenoff, and Raudenbush?[/url] [url=http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/www/external/labor/seminars/adp/pdfs/adp_ajph.pdf]More[/url] [url=http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=African+American+propensity+for+violence+and+crime&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=dOeEU93hDMmbqAbD4oDQDQ&ved=0CCcQgQMwAA]Or how about you do your own looking and come to the same conclusion[/url]
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925127]Crying racism doesn't make me wrong, and it doesn't make Los Angeles not exist. [url=http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/america-s-elusive-crime-statistics-by-race/]One source[/url] but check others for yourself. I ain't saying all black people are criminals, I'm saying a larger number of criminals are black[/QUOTE] What a great source. They have also given us wonders such as: Obamacare, Wall Street, RFID Chips and 666: [url]http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q12012/obamacare-wall-street-rfid-chips-and-666/[/url] Lady Gaga, Satanism and the Illuminati: [url]http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q42011/lady-gaga-satanism-and-the-illuminati666/[/url] Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Homeland Youth: [url]http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q42012/homeland-security-graduates-first-corps-of-homeland-youth/[/url] Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism: [url]http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/courts-quietly-confirm-mmr-vaccine-causes-autism/[/url] Supreme Court rules Drug Companies exempt from Lawsuits: [url]http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/supreme-court-rules-drug-companies-exempt-from-lawsuits/[/url] Now let's look at a peer reviewed study on race and crime: [url]http://www.sagepub.com/gabbidonstudy/articles/Welch.pdf[/url] Do you know what it says in that? [i]There is no fucking correlation[/i] I'd think you were satirizing racists but you're already known for saying stupid shit so this is no surprise.
Do you really think this is cool what is going on thanks to just guns being handed out ? No need to learn the laws, get permits, get a psychologic test, narcological test, be asked for a reason to get a gun. This is what it leads to. Number 1: 1/1/2014, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Norfolk, VA [url]http://www.wvec.com/my-city/norfolk/...238350921.html[/url] [url]http://www.wavy.com/news/local/norfo...rning-shooting[/url] Number 2: 1/3/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, New York (Queens), NY [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/04/ny...ee-others.html[/url] [url]http://pix11.com/2014/01/03/four-peo...#axzz2pwOjY3Gz[/url] Number 3: 1/4/2014, Leonard “Frank” Harris Jr, 2 dead 2 injured, Rock Falls, IL [url]http://wqad.com/2014/01/04/man-repor...ock-falls-bar/[/url] [url]http://qctimes.com/news/local/dead-a...9bb2963f4.html[/url] [url]http://www.kwqc.com/story/24364069/d...in-rock-island[/url] Number 4: 1/5/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Erie, OH [url]http://www.goerie.com/man-shot-dead-...treet-building[/url] [url]http://www.erietvnews.com/story/2436...rning-shooting[/url] Number 5: 1/5/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Atlanta, Ga [url]http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/2436...latna-shooting[/url] Number 6: 1/12/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Elgin, Il [url]http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...ews/701129890/[/url] [url]http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...g-fifth-person[/url] Number 7: 1/12/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Huntsville, AL [url]http://whnt.com/2014/01/13/15-year-o...nse-suspended/[/url] [url]http://whnt.com/2014/01/12/early-mor...in-huntsville/[/url] Number 8: 1/12/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Portland, OR [url]http://www.katu.com/news/local/Multi...239796101.html[/url] [url]http://www.kptv.com/story/24427490/u...-club-shooting[/url] [url]http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news...others-wounded[/url] Number 9: 1/14/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Los Angeles, CA [url]http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...240207831.html[/url] [url]http://ktla.com/2014/01/14/4-injured...#axzz2qV4cNuX1[/url] [url]http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...iveby-20140114[/url] Number 10: 1/16/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Ardmore, OK [url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/justic...f-agents-shot/[/url] [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-who...cops-they-say/[/url] [url]http://www.kten.com/story/24477645/2...dmore-shooting[/url] Number 11: 1/16/2014, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Fresno, CA [url]http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...spree-20140117[/url] [url]http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/01/16/...arjacking.html[/url] Number 12: 1/16/2014, Joshua Boren, 5 dead 0 injured, Spanish Fork, UT [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...4ba_story.html[/url] [url]http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57...y-amp.html.csp[/url] Number 13: 1/20/2014, Jeremiah Eugene Pullen, 0 dead 4 injured, Manassas, VI [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...3a9_story.html[/url] [url]http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...241121891.html[/url] [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1585188[/url] Number 14: 1/21/2014, Unknown, 2 dead 3 injured, Newark, NJ [url]http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/20...ad_3_hurt.html[/url] [url]http://www.abc27.com/story/24520688/...k-car-shooting[/url] [url]http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/20...estaurant.html[/url] Number 15: 1/25/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Belle Glade, FL [url]http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-storie...id_12757.shtml[/url] [url]http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...eople-shooting[/url] Number 16: 1/25/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Chicago, IL [url]http://www.suntimes.com/25170149-761...-shooting.html[/url] [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=9406988[/url] [url]http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local...241957291.html[/url] Number 17: 1/27/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Rocky Mount, NC [url]http://www.wral.com/four-people-shot...ount/13332824/[/url] [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...cal&id=9409413[/url] Number 18: 1/27/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Seattle, WA [url]http://q13fox.com/2014/01/27/woman-s...#axzz2riLpuDCJ[/url] [url]http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/...ooting-is-idd/[/url] Number 19: 1/28/2014, Darion Marcus Aguilar, 3 dead 5 injured, Baltimore, MD [url]http://thebottomline.as.ucsb.edu/201...-maryland-mall[/url] [url]http://www.foxbaltimore.com/news/fea...0s-24920.shtml[/url] Number 20: 1/28/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Milwaukee, WI [url]http://fox6now.com/2014/01/28/at-lea...28th-chambers/[/url] [url]http://www.wisn.com/news/south-east-...z/-/index.html[/url] Number 21: 2/2/2014, Andrew Parish, 3 dead 2 injured, Franklin, IL [url]http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...-franklin-home[/url] [url]http://www.indystar.com/story/news/c...nklin/5196955/[/url] [url]http://wishtv.com/2014/02/04/2-peopl...stic-shooting/[/url] [url]http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...-franklin-home[/url] Number 22: 2/3/2014, Unknown, 4 dead 0 injured, Cypress, TX [url]http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/cy...-4-5200810.php[/url] [url]http://www.khou.com/news/crime/HCSO-...242872011.html[/url] [url]http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=9418703[/url] Number 23: 2/5/2014, Earl Edward Clauge Jr., 1 dead 3 injured, Perry, FL [url]http://www.wctv.tv/news/floridanews/...243701681.html[/url] [url]http://www.wtxl.com/news/shooting-at...7a43b2370.html[/url] [url]http://www.tallahassee.com/article/2...xt%7Cfrontpage[/url] Number 24: 2/6/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Chicago, IL [url]http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...earch-3-others[/url] [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...ews&id=9420949[/url] Number 25: 2/6/2014, Robert Garza Sr., 4 dead 0 injured, Defiance, OH [url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/07...thorities-say/[/url] [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1605588[/url] [url]http://nation.time.com/2014/02/07/oh...-robert-garza/[/url] Number 26: 2/7/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, New Orleans, LA [url]http://www.wafb.com/story/24662387/f...rn-new-orleans[/url] [url]http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...fter_club.html[/url] [url]http://www.wwltv.com/news/NOPD-inves...244208011.html[/url] Number 27: 2/12/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Gary, IN [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...ana&id=9430380[/url] Number 28: 2/12/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Oakland, CA [url]http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...ng-5230506.php[/url] Number 29: 2/12/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Stockton, Ca [url]http://www.kcra.com/news/4-shot-1-ki...-park/24443448[/url] Number 30: 2/15/2014, Peter Andrade, 0 dead 5 injured, Las Vegas, NV [url]http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/24738...ding-reception[/url] [url]http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/se...ption-Saturday[/url] [url]http://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/feb...e-weekend-wed/[/url] Number 31: 2/15/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Fort Wayne, In [url]http://wlfi.com/2014/02/16/five-inju...ayne-shooting/[/url] Number 32: 2/16/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Saginaw, Mi [url]http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/in...shot_outs.html[/url] [url]http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/in...eople_sho.html[/url] Number 33: 2/16/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Fort Worth, Tx [url]http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/02...tockyards.html[/url] [url]http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/247416...rth-stockyards[/url] Number 34: 2/16/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Jacksonville, Fl [url]http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/...oting/5530199/[/url] [url]http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...hill-nightclub[/url] [url]http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...-Florida-club-[/url] Number 35: 2/16/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 6 injured, Dallas, Tx [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-dead...las-nightclub/[/url] [url]http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/One...245753181.html[/url] [url]http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime...d-shooting.ece[/url] Number 36: 2/16/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 6 injured, Pine Hills, FL [url]http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...t-house-party-[/url] [url]http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/vi...Party-Shooting[/url] [url]http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/1...ots-fired.html[/url] Number 37: 2/18/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 6 injured, Fort Lauderdale, Fl [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4810242.html[/url] [url]http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/1...iami-dade.html[/url] [url]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/fl-shoot...nshot-20140216[/url] Number 38: 2/20/2014, Cherie Lash Rhoades, 4 dead 2 injured, Alturas, Ca [url]http://news.yahoo.com/police-4-dead-...042059615.html[/url] [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1622207[/url] [url]http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...-headquarters/[/url] Number 39: 2/20/2014, James Anthony Chin, Christian Eduardo Menrano-Ramirez and Richard Brody Thompson, 0 dead 12 injured, St. Petersburg, FL [url]http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/357...gun-in-St-Pete[/url] [url]http://www.wfla.com/story/24777523/4...ple-in-st-pete[/url] [url]http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...otings/2166491[/url] Number 40: 2/20/2014, Andrew Sizemore, 4 dead 0 injured, Indianapolis, IN [url]http://www.startribune.com/nation/246522671.html[/url] [url]http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...-on-south-side[/url] [url]http://wishtv.com/2014/03/05/police-...outheast-side/[/url] Number 41: 2/23/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Wilmington, CA [url]http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/...n-harbor-city/[/url] [url]http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=9441699[/url] Number 42: 2/24/2014, Unknown, 4 dead 1 injured, Glade Spring, VA [url]http://www.tricities.com/news/articl...7a43b2370.html[/url] [url]http://www.hickoryrecord.com/news/us...7a43b2370.html[/url] [url]http://www.chron.com/news/crime/arti...me-5265585.php[/url] Number 43: 2/26/2014, John Conta Jr., 4 dead 0 injured, Oak Lawn, IL [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...&id=9446990%5D[/url] [url]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...-fire-20140227[/url] Number 44: 3/3/2014, Xzavier Tyrone Mazyck, 0 dead 4 injured, Detroit, Mi [url]http://www.freep.com/article/2014022...hot-in-Detroit[/url] [url]http://www.freep.com/article/2014030...t-tax-shooting[/url] [url]http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/24...rvice-business[/url] Number 45: 3/5/2014, Jared Michael Williams, and Hope Phillips, 3 dead 1 injured, Pelzer, NC [url]http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/248...ting-in-pelzer[/url] [url]http://www.wlos.com/shared/news/feat...ng-15393.shtml[/url] [url]http://www.greenvilleonline.com/arti...riple-slayings[/url] Number 46: 3/8/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Richmond, Ca [url]http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...bay&id=9459909[/url] [url]http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...ng-5301713.php[/url] Number 47: 3/9/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Milwaukee, WI [url]http://fox6now.com/2014/03/09/four-t...cally-injured/[/url] [url]http://www.jrn.com/tmj4/news/Four-in...249196091.html[/url] Number 48: 3/9/2014, Patrick Calhoun, 0 dead 6 injured, Chicago, IL [url]http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2...-at-party.html[/url] [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...ews&id=9459725[/url] [url]http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local...249578131.html[/url] Number 49: 3/9/2014, Igmidio Mista, 3 dead 1 injured, Fremont, OH [url]http://www.newsnet5.com/news/state/3...club-shootings[/url] [url]http://www.thestate.com/2014/03/09/3...-shooting.html[/url] Number 50: 3/14/2014, Two Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Brooklyn, NY [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ork&id=9467017[/url] Number 51: 3/16/2014, Joe Frederick Hawkins, 3 dead 1 injured, Beaumont, TX [url]http://www.chron.com/news/texas/arti...me-5324763.php[/url] Number 52: 3/16/2014, Tacorey Lamon Lakes, Brandell Shaquael Little, and Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Waynsboro, GA [url]http://www.wjbf.com/story/24988474/4-shot-in-waynesboro[/url] Number 53: 3/22/2014, Antonio Marcel Flenoid , 0 dead 4 injured, Sikeston, Mo [url]http://www.kfvs12.com/story/25046780...ar-in-sikeston[/url] Number 54: 3/22/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, North Charlston, SC [url]http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/250459...harleston-club[/url] Number 55: 3/23/2014, Alvin Bell, 1 dead 3 injured, Arlington, TX [url]http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014...shooting.html/[/url] Number 56: 3/24/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 7 injured, San Francisco, CA [url]http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...e-by-shooting/[/url] Number 57: 3/24/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Long Beach, CA [url]http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...urant-20140324[/url] Number 58: 4/3/2014, Ivan Lopez, 4 dead 16 injured, Kileen, TX [url]http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...ate&id=9489479[/url] [url]http://www.chron.com/news/houston-te...lf-5372059.php[/url] [url]http://rt.com/usa/fort-hood-shooting-lockdown-969/[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26863033[/url] [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/02/us...ing/index.html[/url] [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...s-of-shooting/[/url] Number 59: 4/4/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Detroit, Mi [url]http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detr...oits-east-side[/url] [url]http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...it-s-east-side[/url] Number 60: 4/5/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 5 injured, Chicago, Il [url]http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...ews&id=9492677[/url] [url]http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140...others-wounded[/url] Number 61: 4/5/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Phoenix, Az [url]http://www.abc15.com/news/region-pho...boring-parties[/url] [url]http://www.sandiego6.com/news/state-news/254057061.html[/url] Number 62: 4/5/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Fairfield, Ca [url]http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...bay&id=9493728[/url] Number 63: 4/6/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Oklahoma City, Ok [url]http://www.koco.com/news/4-hurt-in-o...oting/25346772[/url] [url]http://www.news9.com/story/25176032/...at-nw-okc-club[/url] Number 64: 4/6/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Springfield, Ma [url]http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...pringfiel.html[/url] Number 65: 4/7/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, New Orleans, LA [url]http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...ves_4_inj.html[/url] Number 66: 4/10/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Arlington, TX [url]http://www.pal-item.com/article/2014...ooting-victims[/url] Number 67: 4/11/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Richmond, IN [url]http://www.pal-item.com/article/2014...ooting-victims[/url] Number 68: 4/12/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, New Orleans, LA [url]http://www.wwl.com/pages/18797373.php[/url] Number 69: 4/13/2014, Derek Morse, 3 dead 1 injured, Lookout Valley, TN [url]http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/25208440...ing-a-shooting[/url] Number 70: 4/14/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 3 injured, Washington, DC [url]http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/loca...st-dc/7691681/[/url] Number 71: 4/14/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Vineland, NJ [url]http://www.thedailyjournal.com/artic...nclick_check=1[/url] [url]http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/252...land-shootings[/url] Number 72: 4/17/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Nashville, TN [url]http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25...uring-shooting[/url] Number 73: 4/20/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Chicago, Il [url]http://wgntv.com/2014/04/21/5-childr...side-shooting/[/url] Number 74: 4/20/2014, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Tampa Bay, FL [url]http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...ooting/2175979[/url] Number 75: 4/20/2014, Kim Tong Yik Doluony, 1 dead 3 injured, Mankato, MN [url]http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/0...kato-shooting/[/url] Number 76: 4/20/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 6 injured, Montgomory, IL [url]http://wgntv.com/2014/04/21/6-shot-a...in-montgomery/[/url] Number 77: 4/24/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Houston, TX [url]http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=9514647[/url] Number 78: 4/25/2014, Unknown, 2 dead 3 injured, Memphis, TN [url]http://www.wmctv.com/story/25338203/...rning-shooting[/url] Number 79: 4/27/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Rome, GA [url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/1-dead-...hooting/nfjGq/[/url] [url]http://www.northwestgeorgianews.com/...7a43b2370.html[/url] Number 80: 4/27/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Troy, NY [url]http://www.timesunion.com/local/arti...oy-5433252.php[/url] Number 81: 4/29/2014, Geddy Kramer, 1 dead 6 injured, Cobb County, GA [url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/cobb-po...-facili/nfkNR/[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/29/justic...dex/index.html[/url] [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...lanta/8449315/[/url] Number 82: 4/30/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Chicago, Il [url]http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/...re-shooting-2/[/url] Number 83: 4/30/2014, Kevin Douglas Addison, 2 dead 2 injured, Nanaimo, BC [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1774795[/url] [url]http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Sus...260/story.html[/url] Number 84: 5/3/2014, Porfirio Hernandez, 4 dead 4 injured, Jonesboro, AR [url]http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/05/r...sas-shootings/[/url] [url]http://www.kait8.com/story/25421094/...boro-shootings[/url] Number 85: 5/3/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Houston, TX [url]http://www.chron.com/news/houston-te...in-5450776.php[/url] Number 86: 5/5/2014, Karim Kamdar, 2 dead 2 injured, Fort Bend County, TX [url]http://www.khou.com/news/local/Life-...257927111.html[/url] Number 87: 5/5/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Chicago, Il [url]http://abc7chicago.com/archive/9527250/[/url] Number 88: 5/5/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Wheat Ridge, CO [url]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...custody-050314[/url] Number 89: 5/9/2014, Darrin Campbell , 4 dead 0 injured, Tampa, FL [url]http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...ly_set_fi.html[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/justic...ansion-deaths/[/url] Number 90: 5/9/2014, Unknown, 4 dead 0 injured, Pomona, CA [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ifornia-family[/url] [url]http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...509-story.html[/url] Number 91: 5/10/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 6 injured, Sacramento, CA [url]http://www.sacbee.com/2014/05/10/639...-shooting.html[/url] [url]http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/...cramento-park/[/url] Number 92: 5/10/2014, Oslushla Smith, 1 dead 3 injured, DeKalb, GA [url]http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...home-in/nftWg/[/url] [url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-l...g-that-/nfw34/[/url] Number 93: 5/11/2014, Marvin Louis Guy, 1 dead 3 injured, Kileen, TX [url]http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/...3931399854346/[/url] Number 94: 5/11/2014, Unknown, 2 dead 3 injured, DeKalb, GA [url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/1...-dekalb/nfs8b/[/url] Number 95: 5/12/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, Chicago, Il [url]http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140...ur-men-wounded[/url] Number 96: 5/17/2014, unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Washington, DC [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...5c0_story.html[/url] Number 97: 5/18/2014, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Cobb County, GA [url]http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...hooting/nfy7F/[/url] Number 98: 5/17/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Coachella, CA [url]http://ktla.com/2014/05/17/coachella...#axzz32eab06Sn[/url] Number 99: 5/22/2014, Jarmon Phillips, 1 dead 3 injured, Dallas, Tx [url]http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Qua...260202931.html[/url] Number 100: 5/24/2014, Elliot Rodger, 7 dead 7 injured, Santa Barbara,CA [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/us...-shooting.html[/url] [url]http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/7-...-santa-barbara[/url] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A4N05120140524[/url] Number 101: 5/24/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Bellflower, CA [url]http://ktla.com/2014/05/23/quadruple...#axzz32eab06Sn[/url] Number 102: 5/24/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 7 injured, New Orleans, LA [url]http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news/...treet/26152954[/url] Number 103: 5/24/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 4 injured, San Antonio, TX [url]http://www.ksat.com/news/4-injured-i...oting/26150408[/url] Number 104: 5/24/2014, Unknown, 0 dead 5 injured, Detroit, Mi [url]http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25...still-at-large[/url] Number 105: 5/25/2014, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Toledo, OH [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/...ledo-shooting/[/url] Number 106: 5/25/2014, Unknown, 3 dead 1 injured, Myrtle Beach, SC [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oting/9569305/[/url]
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;44925175]Poverty is the prime driving factor behind crime, not race. More black people are at a disadvantage compared to white people economically so they form a higher proportion of criminals. I think this is simple enough for you to understand.[/QUOTE] That doesn't change the end result though. I understand WHY African Americans are more prone to violence and crime, I'm a huge supporter of expanding social programs to attempt to remedy the problem at the root, but that still doesn't mean it isn't true.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925142]Check my cited source[/QUOTE] I did The "About Us" page suggests a Princess Diana coverup within a few paragraphs, and that's perhaps a high point for the site.
[QUOTE=Mr. Face;44925180]Dude we're talking about Telepethi aka Ven Kaeo here. He doesn't have a history of understanding simple things.[/QUOTE] Really? I'm providing sources and material and you're just going to result to an ad-hominem argument? I expected more from you Face. I'm disappointed.
[quote]Do you really think this is cool what is going on thanks to just guns being handed out ?[/quote] uh, a lot of the time when guns are used in the commission of a crime they're either stolen or sourced via illegal means.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925186]Don't like that source? [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449156/]How about Doctors Sampson, Morenoff, and Raudenbush?[/url] [url=http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/www/external/labor/seminars/adp/pdfs/adp_ajph.pdf]More[/url] [url=http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=African+American+propensity+for+violence+and+crime&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=dOeEU93hDMmbqAbD4oDQDQ&ved=0CCcQgQMwAA]Or how about you do your own looking and come to the same conclusion[/url][/QUOTE] I'll quote the source again for those ignoring it
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925186]Don't like that source? [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449156/]How about Doctors Sampson, Morenoff, and Raudenbush?[/url] [url=http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/www/external/labor/seminars/adp/pdfs/adp_ajph.pdf]More[/url] [url=http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=African+American+propensity+for+violence+and+crime&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=dOeEU93hDMmbqAbD4oDQDQ&ved=0CCcQgQMwAA]Or how about you do your own looking and come to the same conclusion[/url][/QUOTE] Read your own damned sources: [quote]The odds of perpetrating violence were 85% higher for Blacks compared with Whites, whereas Latino-perpetrated violence was 10% lower. Yet the majority of the Black–White gap (over 60%) and the entire Latino–White gap were explained primarily by the marital status of parents, immigrant generation, and dimensions of neighborhood social context. The results imply that generic interventions to improve neighborhood conditions and support families may reduce racial gaps in violence.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925199]That doesn't change the end result though. I understand WHY African Americans are more prone to violence and crime, I'm a huge supporter of expanding social programs to attempt to remedy the problem at the root, but that still doesn't mean it isn't true.[/QUOTE] If you understand why it happens then for what reason do you continue to bring attention to skin colour, something that doesn't play a part in causing the problem? Nobody is in an Elliot Rodger thread blaming his race, because for the most part we understand the causes of what happened. Race wasn't one of them. Why should black people not be afforded this same dignity?
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;44925210]uh, a lot of the time when guns are used in the commission of a crime they're either stolen or sourced via illegal means.[/QUOTE] Citation needed.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;44925186]Don't like that source? [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449156/]How about Doctors Sampson, Morenoff, and Raudenbush?[/url] [url=http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/www/external/labor/seminars/adp/pdfs/adp_ajph.pdf]More[/url] [url=http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=African+American+propensity+for+violence+and+crime&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=dOeEU93hDMmbqAbD4oDQDQ&ved=0CCcQgQMwAA]Or how about you do your own looking and come to the same conclusion[/url][/QUOTE] We could also take into account higher propensity for minorities to be based in poverty stricken areas. Ever hear of the term "white flight"? You know, that thing when minorities started to integrate more in urban centers and suddenly all of the white people left? You know, the thing where the minorities that moved in were redlined and discriminated against in terms of mortgages? You know, those things that put minorities at a very immediate disadvantage economically? You know, that thing that has been known to push people to become criminals to make their money?
[QUOTE=Masterofstars;44925222]Read your own damned sources:[/QUOTE] Please quote for me, anywhere in this thread, where I said african americans were more prone to violence based on genetics. No rush, take your time, I'll wait. [editline]27th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Face;44925245]We could also take into account higher propensity for minorities to be based in poverty stricken areas. Ever hear of the term "white flight"? You know, that thing when minorities started to integrate more in urban centers and suddenly all of the white people left? You know, the thing where the minorities that moved in were redlined and discriminated against in terms of mortgages? You know, those things that put minorities at a very immediate disadvantage economically? You know, that thing that has been known to push people to become criminals to make their money?[/QUOTE] Never said fixing the problem would be easy.
[quote]Guns Recovered from Crime Only 1% of gun dealer account for almost 60% of crime guns recovered by police and later traced In one year, at least 30,000 guns were “lost” out of gun dealers inventories Guns with a short “time to crime” are disproportionately represented among crime guns. Guns manufactured and sold 3 years or less, prior to recovery by police in crime make up 34 % of recovered and traced crime guns, but only 14% of the US gun stock. Guns sold as part of a multiple sale at a gun dealer were up to 64% more likely to be used in a crime than guns not part of such sales. “No background check” sales account for an estimated 40% of gun sales in the U.S. Sources: ATF (2000); Brady Center; National Institute of Justice (1993, 2007); Police Foundation (1997) Percent of Recovered Crime Guns First Legally Purchased In-State: Pennsylvania: 78% New Jersey: 27% (18% from PA) New York: 28% Source: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)[/quote] A bit old but it should do.
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