My Kinder Surprise for your Ford Mustang: EU and US begin free-trade talks. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Van-man;39584890]The problem here isn't that it's a small car. The problem is that it's a tincan of a itty bitty badge-engineered Korean car where there's been cut so many corners during design & production it's only worth it's weight in scrap metal after the warranty is out. As I've said before, the "buy and throw away" concept, except in car form. Here's a list of decent & small cars: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_hatch[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_compact[/url][/QUOTE] Not everyone wants a sports car. Some people just want a car that gets them from A to B and doesn't cost a ton of money to own. I'd be one of those people.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;39585274]Not everyone wants a sports car. Some people just want a car that gets them from A to B and doesn't cost a ton of money to own. I'd be one of those people.[/QUOTE] Instead of buying a new-tin bucket with wheels, why not pick up a used car with a service package? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Pre-Owned[/url] At-least then you'd get a car that's actually worth SOMETHING when you're gonna sell it, instead of continuing to fuel the damn [I]cheap cars that only lasts 5 years[/I] trend.

[QUOTE=Van-man;39585435]Instead of buying a new-tin bucket with wheels, why not pick up a used car with a service package? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Pre-Owned[/url] At-least then you'd get a car that's actually worth SOMETHING when you're gonna sell it, instead of continuing to fuel the damn [I]cheap cars that only lasts 5 years[/I] trend.[/QUOTE] This ^. Also, I'd rather have a gas guzzler that'll last me 20+ years and can kill someone when I crash into them.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;39582562]why do americans mock small cars, i never undestood that[/QUOTE]Because we all know they will not survive for long if the traffic situation gets... chaotic. I laugh because, well, whenever I see one I think of that time I was following a Prius with four exceptionally retarded teenagers in it. They had the passenger door propped open with a guitar case, and were honking the horn and screaming/being morons. The door hit a parked car and tore off, the guitar case (with guitar) disintegrated, and the door went under the car and was lodged in the wheel well. I almost rear-ended them because I was laughing so hard.

I want big red, sure you can have kinder surprise for them.

[QUOTE=Van-man;39585435]Instead of buying a new-tin bucket with wheels, why not pick up a used car with a service package? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Pre-Owned[/url] At-least then you'd get a car that's actually worth SOMETHING when you're gonna sell it, instead of continuing to fuel the damn [I]cheap cars that only lasts 5 years[/I] trend.[/QUOTE] Most new cars come with 100,000 mile / 10 year warrenties, so it doesn't matter how badly made it is. It can even work out cheaper to run than a second hand one. Yes the value will drop harder, but most people who buy brand new cars just take it back and trade it for another after 5 years. They would rather spend £170 a month on a new car that is covered by warrenty and won't let them down, than pay £5,000 outright for a second hand car that could have any history

ASDA near me has started stocking loads of American chocolate, I don't know if I've only just realised it or they've done it for a while now, either way American chocolate in my opinion just doesn't beat what we got here.

Finally, an EU-rule that Finland most likely isn't going to follow. Until now we've followed them all, but Finland loves its taxes and bullshittingly high prices so there's NO way this is going through here. I mean, it would mean the we could get goods abroad with prices that make sense! No way, no fucking way.

[QUOTE=matt.ant;39585681]Most new cars come with 100,000 mile / 10 year warrenties, so it doesn't matter how badly made it is. It can even work out cheaper to run than a second hand one. Yes the value will drop harder, but most people who buy brand new cars just take it back and trade it for another after 5 years. They would rather spend £170 a month on a new car that is covered by warrenty and won't let them down, than pay £5,000 outright for a second hand car that could have any history[/QUOTE] It's like you're completely ignoring the whole point of [I]certified pre-owned[/I] programs

[QUOTE=matt.ant;39585681]Most new cars come with 100,000 mile / 10 year warrenties, so it doesn't matter how badly made it is. It can even work out cheaper to run than a second hand one. Yes the value will drop harder, but most people who buy brand new cars just take it back and trade it for another after 5 years. They would rather spend £170 a month on a new car that is covered by warrenty and won't let them down, than pay £5,000 outright for a second hand car that could have any history[/QUOTE] It's almost as if he wants to be a woman :v: You can have your: [IMG]http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Seat/Mii/1391212123634.jpg[/IMG] I'll stick with : [URL]http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/75640071975_lincoln_mark_iv_001.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=progamer3054;39586158]It's almost as if he wants to be a woman :v: You can have your: [IMG]http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Seat/Mii/1391212123634.jpg[/IMG] I'll stick with : [URL]http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/75640071975_lincoln_mark_iv_001.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE] I don't think you understand how expensive driving in Europe is, good luck driving that with petrol is $8.20 a gallon, hundreds in tax a year, and thousands more in insurance

God, after reading this thread I have pity for my Western European bros, the prices where you live are horrifying. I live in Lithuania (Baltic state), and at least here sweets are cheap as fuck. Here you can get chocolate bar for like 0.20 euro, and can of soda for 38 cents. Such is life here. Cheap and fast internet and cheap sweets, everything else here sucks. Back on the topic, I Think this is great. It will boost economy for both Europe and Usa, not counting that we will exchange products that we don't have. (dr.pepper would be great). Americans still won't get kinder surprise. [editline]14th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=matt.ant;39586203]I don't think you understand how expensive driving in Europe is, good luck driving that with petrol is $8.20 a gallon, hundreds in tax a year, and thousands more in insurance[/QUOTE] Buy it from us then. It's 1.39 euro/l here.

I love my Fiesta.. Only a shitty 1.2. Would prefer this Focus mind, only it costs about 8 times what my fiesta was + that would go up to about 15-20 times as much once you consider insurance. [URL]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/S7C1tr685sI/AAAAAAACry4/DBVrPhodY84/s1600/Ford-Focus-RS500-29.jpg[/URL]

Dr Pepper is a love or hate experience really.

[QUOTE=progamer3054;39586158]I'll stick with : [URL]http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/75640071975_lincoln_mark_iv_001.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE] That would take up a bus / cargo-truck parking spot in Europe, and barely fit in 1 lane.

That would be freaking great.

[QUOTE=overpain;39586262]God, after reading this thread I have pity for my Western European bros, the prices where you live are horrifying. I live in Lithuania (Baltic state), and at least here sweets are cheap as fuck. Here you can get chocolate bar for like 0.20 euro, and can of soda for 38 cents. Such is life here. Cheap and fast internet and cheap sweets, everything else here sucks. Back on the topic, I Think this is great. It will boost economy for both Europe and Usa, not counting that we will exchange products that we don't have. (dr.pepper would be great). Americans still won't get kinder surprise. [editline]14th February 2013[/editline] Buy it from us then. It's 1.39 euro/l here.[/QUOTE] 'Cept most of the price of petrol in the rest of Europe comes from taxes, regardless of where it comes from. Unless you drove over the border I guess :v:

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;39574896]Ahahahaha Australia getting fair prices. Pppfhahaha.[/QUOTE] What causes this btw? I never understood why

[QUOTE=matt.ant;39586203]I don't think you understand how expensive driving in Europe is, good luck driving that with petrol is $8.20 a gallon, hundreds in tax a year, and thousands more in insurance[/QUOTE] I'm in Ireland for college. I purchased an American vehicle (1999 Chrysler Sebring JXi Convertible) in Belfast. I'm pretty sure I have an idea. I shell out €60 whenever I gas up. €600 to register it. €500 for 6 months of road tax. €600 a month for insurance. I'm also shipping it back to Chicago in May. So...again, I have a good idea.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39586502]What causes this btw? I never understood why[/QUOTE] Shipping, I'd imagine.

[QUOTE=progamer3054;39586650]I'm in Ireland for college. I purchased an American vehicle (1999 Chrysler Sebring JXi Convertible) in Belfast. I'm pretty sure I have an idea. I shell out €60 whenever I gas up. €600 to register it. €500 for 6 months of road tax. €600 a month for insurance. I'm also shipping it back to Chicago in May. So...again, I have a good idea.[/QUOTE] Well then that answers why Europeans don't drive American cars. Good on you for owning something you clearly love, but most people won't be willing to pay those prices. Especially since you can get a mortgage for less than your insurance.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39586502]What causes this btw? I never understood why[/QUOTE] Surrounded by water is part of the reason.

[QUOTE=Van-man;39584890]The problem here isn't that it's a small car. The problem is that it's a tincan of a itty bitty badge-engineered Korean car where there's been cut so many corners during design & production it's only worth it's weight in scrap metal after the warranty is out. As I've said before, the "buy and throw away" concept, except in car form. Here's a list of decent & small cars: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_hatch[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_compact[/url][/QUOTE] You don't really get much small, sporty selection in the US, at least ones in [I]good[/I] shape for a fairly low price. There's tons of Civic SIs, but people abuse the hell out of them. Golfs are always overpriced. Nissan S and Z cars are beat and riced up by teenagers. Some older Fords like the SVT Contour and the SVT Focus can be gotten for really cheap, but both are unsafe (though pretty much every hot hatchback and small sports car are death traps) Tiny 4 cylinder hot hatches are for the weak, anyways. [I]Real[/I] men buy the original hot hatchback: [t]http://i.imgur.com/uue3cri.jpg[/t] 1972 AMC Gremlin X. Rear-wheel drive hatchback with a [I]five liter[/I] V8. It's only an inch longer than a VW Beetle.

[QUOTE=Saber15;39587104]You don't really get much small, sporty selection in the US, at least ones in [I]good[/I] shape for a fairly low price. There's tons of Civic SIs, but people abuse the hell out of them. Golfs are always overpriced. Nissan S and Z cars are beat and riced up by teenagers. Some older Fords like the SVT Contour and the SVT Focus can be gotten for really cheap, but both are unsafe (though pretty much every hot hatchback and small sports car are death traps) Tiny 4 cylinder hot hatches are for the weak, anyways. [I]Real[/I] men buy the original hot hatchback: [t]http://i.imgur.com/uue3cri.jpg[/t] 1972 AMC Gremlin X. Rear-wheel drive hatchback with a [I]five liter[/I] V8. It's only an inch longer than a VW Beetle.[/QUOTE] Every other car is a deathtrap when soccermoms drives [URL="http://jalopnik.com/5975506/when-the-off-roaders-became-soft-roaders-jeremy-clarkson-was-there-to-bitch-about-it"]mansions-on-wheels[/URL] Get then to get the fuck back into minivans and stationwagons, then the problem is solved. Next step is getting white trash to stop buying pick-up trucks when a stationwagon is the best option for their needs.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39586502]What causes this btw? I never understood why[/QUOTE] Part of it is the fact that australia has a minimum wage of slightly under 16 bucks an hour, while the US is in the 7-8 dollar range.

[QUOTE=progamer3054;39586650]I'm in Ireland for college. I purchased an American vehicle (1999 Chrysler Sebring JXi Convertible) in Belfast. I'm pretty sure I have an idea. I shell out €60 whenever I gas up. €600 to register it. €500 for 6 months of road tax. €600 a month for insurance. I'm also shipping it back to Chicago in May. So...again, I have a good idea.[/QUOTE] Because the first thing I think of when I imagine powerful and manly American cars is a 1999 Sebring

Please make this come true, then I can finally get Tim Tams from the supermarket instead of spending ~$30 for a box off of Amazon. Also, you Aussies should really put 10 to a box rather than 9, the odd numbers just aren't fair.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;39603330]Because the first thing I think of when I imagine powerful and manly American cars is a 1999 Sebring[/QUOTE] I'd rather have that than some piece of plastic. Also, it's not compared to a good number of American cars. My car that was posted on the first page; however, is.

[QUOTE=Starship;39586332]Dr Pepper is a love or hate experience really.[/QUOTE] Dr. Pepper was an acquired taste for me. I used to hate it, but at some point, it became my favorite soda.

If memory serves, the statistically most american modern car is the Toyota Corolla we make every part here, and it's all assembled here, but it's owned by Toyota