DarksydePhil's (DSPGaming) Entire Moderator Team Quit
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[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46166453]"Wow! my whole moderating team left, it clearly can't be my fault!"
I can't wait for his response.[/QUOTE]
Bugged moderator mechanics, wowww dude whatever
I didn't do anything, how the fuck was I supposed to know they were going to just quit??? *burp* *snort* *clears throat* Huh huh huh huh huh huh huh!
[editline]6th October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Texas_Ranger;46168687]DSP is entertaining in the fact that he will always find some way to fuck something up. I mean, you go in with really low expectations anyway, but he'll always outdo himself somehow.
I don't really watch him at all, but all you need to know is that he did an unboxing video [I]where he never opened the box.[/I][/QUOTE]
Is that the one where he decided it would be a good idea to film a video while the building fire alarm is going off, then proceeds to bitch about the fire alarm for the entire video?
Man these moderators are [I]stooped[/I]. They don't listen to - look, I'm [B][U]PRESSING [/U][/B]the lock button, it's not working! Hoawhoawhoaw man what a buggy forum. Oh - they all [I]leave [/I]me? This whole thing is broken, crunch slurp - *intelligible disgusting noises*
[QUOTE=T553412;46168176]Is he recording with a fucking toaster, or what? I've seen shittier Lets Players/streamers with better video and sound quality[/QUOTE]
This was from when he used to use a camcorder to film his playthroughs, which he did for about 3 years prior to this too.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;46168734]
Is that the one where he decided it would be a good idea to film a video while the building fire alarm is going off, then proceeds to bitch about the fire alarm for the entire video?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much, and as mentioned before. He eventually disabled the fire alarm and said that he didnt need it because the smell of the fire would wake him up or some nonsensical bollocks.
And his cooking is absolutely [b]shocking[/b].
I hope Phil has a back up plan in store because he is really in a predicament. And you can tell the novelty of the "job" has really worn off on him. He has zero respect for the games he plays that it's downright disgraceful, along with everyone else. It's a small miracle he's survived this long. I don't know how many wake up calls he had.
The first time I saw him was watching him playing Black Mesa @ the duck jump part with a friend and I immediately made a joke about the "DS" in dsp standing for dipshit. Honestly I was not expecting to hear about him so much after that.
[QUOTE=J!NX;46166949]when I was like 12 and played unreal tourmament only using god mode / loaded / allammo I was still more mentally aware in video games than this guy[/QUOTE]
Dude wtf no playersonly / redeemer spam from the sky in face?
As soon as Phil met pandalee, that started his downfall.
[QUOTE=Highwind017;46168856]Pretty much, and as mentioned before. He eventually disabled the fire alarm and said that he didnt need it because the smell of the fire would wake him up or some nonsensical bollocks.
And his cooking is absolutely [b]shocking[/b].
I hope Phil has a back up plan in store because he is really in a predicament. And you can tell the novelty of the "job" has really worn off on him. He has zero respect for the games he plays that it's downright disgraceful, along with everyone else. It's a small miracle he's survived this long. I don't know how many wake up calls he had.[/QUOTE]
It was the building alarm, not his personal apartment alarm.
[QUOTE=T553412;46168176]Is he recording with a fucking toaster, or what? I've seen shittier Lets Players/streamers with better video and sound quality[/QUOTE]
To be fair it's really not bad - the videos I've watched I completely forgot he was filming the screen.
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I don't shit bad people for things they do right.
[QUOTE=Banandana;46167509]10/6/14@1:26PM PST
[url]http://thekingofhate.com/forums/index.php?/topic/407-an-important-message-from-the-staff/page-2[/url][/QUOTE]
I don't buy it, this is the 4th or 5th time he's said he'd change, but he hasn't followed through on any of it before. DSP is out of chances to give and he's obviously not actually willing to change. These mods really need to move on to someplace else, because their experience and talent is being wasted on this man-child.
[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;46168267]he literally used to film his screens when playing[/QUOTE]
To be fair he was actually the best at that method. Don't get me wrong it still sucked but in terms of cam vids he was probably the best.
Here is a small part of the beginning of the moderator's response to phil's response.
[QUOTE]We have heavily discussed your response and have come upon this collective response:
[B]We decline, albeit respectfully, to hold this discussion in a private manner. We believe it would be to our greatest benefit to have this chat with you publicly due to experiences we've had in the past in the staff discussion section.[/B] [/QUOTE]
DSP doesn't really deserve this attention, he was funny for awhile but it is starting to get a bit pathetic and boring to be honest.
I watched DSP play smash yesterday.
It was really funny, he kept up-Bing off the edge as DeDeDe, and complained each time.
I want to say he's playing it up for views, but he isn't getting views so that can't be it.
Mods response:
[quote]We have heavily discussed your response and have come upon this collective response:
We decline, albeit respectfully, to hold this discussion in a private manner. We believe it would be to our greatest benefit to have this chat with you publicly due to experiences we've had in the past in the staff discussion section. These experiences consisted of yourself speaking to us, us responding constructively with the inclusion of our own personal queries followed by radio silence. We never received a response. On the rare occasions where you have responded, you proceeded to apologize and promise us that you would change your attitude, but these declarations never came to pass. It is due to these aforementioned experiences that we must repeat ourselves once more: We decline a private discussion.
Long-story-short: We believe you're less likely to brush us off if the chat is held publicly.
We would like for you to keep in mind that this was not a sudden choice; we have been discussing this for some time. Knee-jerk reactions is something that the whole of this forum's staff are adamantly against. We patiently waited for the correct opportunity to present itself before airing our grievances. Keep in mind, while the events of what occurred yesterday, your indiscriminate locking and deleting of threads along with the insulting of fellow forum members, were *not* the main reason for our entirely warranted reaction (this thread), they were the straw that broke the camel's back. As staff members, yourself included, we should be held to a higher standard. We should not manipulate our abilities to silence those who disagree with us, as that makes us no better than those who break the rules in the first place. If it were any other member of the staff who committed the acts that you did, they would have been demodded by now, if not temporarily banned.
We are pleased that you have taken notice of your stream chat's flaws and issues after months of badgering on behalf of the users and staff members; we've had Twitch users complaining to us for a very, very long time. Our suggestions regarding this are as follows:
A complete and total review of all Twitch moderators.
You, yourself, should request that your Twitch moderators join this forum, as this will allow them to become directly involved with the banning and un-banning process that takes place on this very forum.
Keep track of all banned users (at least within reason). And we do mean *all* banned users. Have Twitch moderators make notes, mental or physical, in regards to who was banned, on what day they were banned, and most importantly: Why they were banned. Screen caps would also be highly valuable. Doing all of this will put an end to the "I was innocent" argument as well as assist you with locating who carries out unwarranted punishments.
Put the following users in charge of who gains status as a stream moderator: ICuredItWithMyBrain, Drilbit777. There is so much more to choosing a reliable staff member than simply locating somebody who's willing to do the job. The job itself requires a great level of maturity and the ability to distinguish rule-breaker from innocent viewer. We, the staff of this forum, have determined that these two users are the best individuals for that particular job.
Moving on from that: We do appreciate that you brought this up (it did take quite a while)! However, this has absolutely nothing to do with why we created this thread in the first place, as it addresses none of the points we've made. You make a point about how you can’t address overly negative criticism without an overarching topic, however, yesterday, when approached with a forum thread with an overarching topic (PandaLee Twitch modding), you simply told the person that brought it to you that ‘nobody cares’ among other things. We of course understand that you feel like you need to protect your significant other, though this cannot impede the progress of the free-flow of expression of which this forum was built upon, if you wish it to succeed. It was not the content of the thread or your opinion on the topic that we took issue with, it is your direct actions when the thread was brought to your attention by a moderator that felt that you needed to see it, how you reacted to that was simply unacceptable and is likely to demoralise members of the staff from wanting to continue moderating the forum and assisting you In maintaining your website.
Your response was to directly disregard the issue completely, despite a very large amount of users showing an interest in the topic (and agreeing that there was an issue at hand), on top of this, you threatened a moderator (the same that brought the original thread to your attention) regarding his opinion because of a previous exchange the two of you had, we do not think that this was justified as you should have allowed him to say what he had to say regardless of your feelings towards him. We do not think that the thread should have been closed, if you feel that you are going to take the stance that you are going to defend your significant other no matter what, then we do not believe that you should involve yourself in the thread, though you should be fully aware of the situation if you so wish; however, if you feel like people are being nasty towards your significant other, then you are more than welcome to notify the moderators of this.
The following is from Wanglord:
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Phil, I contacted you yesterday because the forum was exploding (again) because of Leanna’s way of handling the moderation on Twitch. I tweeted you because it would have continued forever if you did not respond to it.
I did not care for your response to the thread, but that is beside the point; you then proceeded to go on a tirade against me when all I did was trying to help you, as always. I’ve created threads about helping your improve the quality of the videos countless times, I emailed you several times regarding your PC and I even emailed you when you wanted to mod Oblivion. I have NEVER “shit on you” for no reason, and I in no way hate/take issue with everything you do.
When I call you out on Twitter, it is because what you are saying – while it in some cases might be true – is often written in a way that either directly or indirectly attacks entire groups of people. This is horrendous PR and I, and everyone else on the moderation team, are invested in your channel: when your channel is doing well, the forum does well. Even if most of us only watch bits and pieces of your content here and there – I personally watch the vlogs primarily – we all want you to succeed because it grows a community that we truly care for.
When I contacted you yesterday and tried in a civil manner to make you see sense about this whole situation, what did you do? You brush it off as “nobody cares”, which was just untrue, and then proceed to tell me to grow up, that I’m an armchair quarterback and that you’re tired of my shit. You then went on to threaten me in another thread and indirectly call everything I said “foolish drama” on your Twitch chat.
Here are the facts: I am 24, I have lived with my current girlfriend for 4 years, I have watched your content since 2008 and have been invested in the community that spawned out of your content since early 2011. Every time you tell me to “grow up” when I have been trying to help you succeed in your current endeavors builds a sense of hatred for you as a person that I honestly don’t feel at any other time. You have directly insulted me time and time again and labelled me as someone who is just “always negative no matter what”. This hurts me as it is basically a slap in the face from someone you otherwise like.
Even if you don’t believe me, I’m sure many members of the community could vouch me and my action. Hazz3r, Beechey, Raiden The OppaiMaster, DrilBit777, ICuredItWithMyBrain, Bulzevar among others would certainly back up everything I’ve just written.
I hope you read this and understand that I do not dislike you, but your actions are slowly pushing me in that direction. I find you genuinely entertaining as a person and I watch all of your vlogs.
Cheers.
You also address about how criticism threads are one-sided and that forum users have issues seeing it from your side too, we do not think that this is the case, we often find that users post well discussed and well thought out opinions and critiques that analyse your own posts. Users are not failing to see to see your point of view, it is that their view just simply does not correlate to yours, and they often back up their opinions with facts. We feel like you cannot stand being in the minority opinion and may be why you often react in a kneejerk manner, and this should be something that you need to work on.
The main thing that we want to focus on are proposed changes; these include:
You will not close or delete threads period, without a unanimous agreement among the members of the staff on the forum
We agree with your proposal for requested warnings, though we ask you to identify a forum rule that the user has broken
You are more than welcome to propose a new forum rule that will be discussed with the staff though that rule will not be enforced retroactively
We were under the impression that you did not want specific topic threads for criticism and wanted a general thread for all criticism, though we are happy to change this
We suggest that you completely review your Twitch mods
They must be reasonably active so that they can be active when dealing with issues within the Twitch chat
We then ask that you enforce a rule that Twitch mods must have an account on the forum
We suggest making ICuredItWithMyBrain and Drilbit777 Head Moderators and allowing them to decide who should become Twitch mods. Providing they want to take this responsibility
Create a ‘report’ thread where staff members may raise any concerns that they have regarding the forums, or that you may have regarding the forums. This would be done between every week to once a month (depending on how often we find ourselves using this)
We all want more positivity to happen on the website, though we must not force users to act in a certain way. If a user wants to use the website purely as a way to critique your content, then we should not be in a position to force them to do otherwise
Thank you for reading.
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So they are coming back?
[QUOTE=shad0w440;46169698]So they are coming back?[/QUOTE]
They probably will do, but with much needed change. Phil will have no option other than to meet their demands. He has no other moderation and the forums are a fucking mess right now.
[QUOTE=Friendly;46169996]They probably will do, but with much needed change. Phil will have no option other than to meet their demands. He has no other moderation and the forums are a fucking mess right now.[/QUOTE]
I actually hope he doesn't improve and it really blows up, way bigger than this
[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;46168967]The first time I saw him was watching him playing Black Mesa @ the duck jump part with a friend and I immediately made a joke about the "DS" in dsp standing for dipshit. Honestly I was not expecting to hear about him so much after that.
Dude wtf no playersonly / redeemer spam from the sky in face?[/QUOTE]
real men use unreal4ever to mass spam cheapo explosions
I was a fan of early Phil like really early, I saw one of his first Spider-Man vids. I hopped off after he canned project 7 after only 4 episodes. I don't know much after that but holy shit things change.
[QUOTE=Talvy;46169228]To be fair it's really not bad - the videos I've watched I completely forgot he was filming the screen.
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[B]Feel free to dumb me and go down on his level - I don't shit bad people for things they do right.[/B][/QUOTE]
rated dumb for that
This guy is bad, and kinda of a symbol of what's wrong with a lot of Youtubers in general. DasBoSchitt actually made a small web series I would imagine was inspired by him since the main Characters name is 'Phil' and he acts exactly the same as the one on Youtube, even is Das won't admit it.
Ep1
[video=youtube;Hm6Y9r18Ch4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm6Y9r18Ch4[/video]
Ep2
[video=youtube;bz92R5ptZRE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz92R5ptZRE[/video]
All the mods have now been reinstated.
[QUOTE=murple;46170398]rated dumb for that[/QUOTE]
It already had 3 so it really doesn't make a difference:
This is one of those situations where facepunchers hate someone so much they start flaming him for even the things he does right - fucking childish if you ask me, doesn't make you any less of a stuck up idiot than him.
[QUOTE=Talvy;46171181]It already had 3 so it really doesn't make a difference:
This is one of those situations where facepunchers hate someone so much they start flaming him for even the things he does right - fucking childish if you ask me, doesn't make you any less of a stuck up idiot than him.[/QUOTE]
If you'd stop saying dumb shit we wouldn't hate you.
I'm talking about DSP. ...how did you even
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Do you even know the topic or did you just follow me?
Alcoholism is a hell of a drug.
That explains a lot.
[QUOTE=Talvy;46171181]It already had 3 so it really doesn't make a difference:
This is one of those situations where facepunchers hate someone so much they start flaming him for even the things he does right - fucking childish if you ask me, doesn't make you any less of a stuck up idiot than him.[/QUOTE]
Even if he recorded material fairly well for using a camera, it's still a stupid way of recording things.
Just saying the "recorded with (your food item here)" doesn't work here.
[QUOTE=Talvy;46171181]It already had 3 so it really doesn't make a difference:
This is one of those situations where facepunchers hate someone so much they start flaming him for even the things he does right - fucking childish if you ask me, doesn't make you any less of a stuck up idiot than him.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about you but saying
[QUOTE=Talvy;46169228]Feel free to dumb me and go down on his level - I don't shit bad people for things they do right.[/QUOTE]
seems really childish and stuck up to me
whats wrong with criticizing him? he claims to play games professionally and yet he is insanely sloppy at it and has a terrible attitude. Sorry we aren't treating him with respect for being a shitlord, but that's not how that works. It's not childish, its genuine criticism.
He acts really arrogant about the way he does things but does it totally wrong. He spent thousands of dollars on a gaming rigged and bragged about how he used to do custom builds all the time and how he knows what he's doing, like he's some great old timer gamer, but bottlenecked it by doing it totally incorrectly having not researched anything at all.
he isn't doing anything right, but no ones flaming him, at least I don't see anyone. people are making fun of him because he's just awful and treats people like shit, and lies consistently and what not.
He is "Professionally" maintaining a gaming channel and yet that is far from what people see(if it was professional he would have recorded it via an capture device that isn't a camera. Cameras are MASSIVELY of lesser quality compared to even using fraps). No shit people are 'flaming' him after he doesn't listen to advice. Why do you think his mod team has gotten so fed up with him?
[editline]7th October 2014[/editline]
Personally, I get tons of laugh from the crap he pulls and say stuff like I do because I don't see him improving at all. That's why people hate him.
But in those rare occasions that he has done something right, why would you tell him he's wrong - aka tell him to do it the wrong way?
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