[QUOTE=Zemog;21186204]Soviet killed people who didn't abide them.
Nazi Germany killed people for no reason.[/QUOTE]
They still killed people.
[QUOTE=N0 WAR;21186221]They still killed people.[/QUOTE]
So every nazi personally killed innocent civilians?
[QUOTE=Zemog;21186204]Soviet killed people who didn't abide them.
Nazi Germany killed people for no reason.[/QUOTE]
If you were a Soldier who surrendered to Germany, you'd probably be put in a POW Camp.
If you were a Soldier who surrendered to the Soviets, you'd probably be tortured and executed.
[QUOTE=Zemog;21186204]Soviet killed people who didn't abide them.
Nazi Germany killed people for no reason.[/QUOTE]
nazi germany killed people cuz they were jews oh yeah and other peopel too like but lots of jews too!
[QUOTE=N0 WAR;21186221]They still killed people.[/QUOTE]
Lives are irreplaceable, and it's a horrible crime to take a live no matter what sort or crime they may have committed.
Nevertheless there is a huge difference between taking a life for no reason and taking a life for X reason.
If taking a life for X reason is just a big of a crime as taking a life for no reason then every country in the world, not only Soviet Russia, would be as bad as Nazi Germany.
[editline]03:44PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=KmScMT;21186270]nazi germany killed people cuz they were jews oh yeah and other peopel too like but lots of jews too![/QUOTE]
And why did they kill them because they were Jews? Why was being a Jew a crime. Racism. Racism qualifies in my dictionary as no reason.
[QUOTE=Zemog;21186272]Lives are irreplaceable, and it's a horrible crime to take a live no matter what sort or crime they may have committed.
Nevertheless there is a huge difference between taking a life for no reason and taking a life for X reason.
If taking a life for X reason is just a big of a crime as taking a life for no reason then every country in the world, not only Soviet Russia, would be as bad as Nazi Germany.[/QUOTE]
Last time i checked killing people because they are jewish is a reason.
[QUOTE=Zemog;21186272]Lives are irreplaceable, and it's a horrible crime to take a live no matter what sort or crime they may have committed.
Nevertheless there is a huge difference between taking a life for no reason and taking a life for X reason.
If taking a life for X reason is just a big of a crime as taking a life for no reason then every country in the world, not only Soviet Russia, would be as bad as Nazi Germany.
[editline]03:44PM[/editline]
And why did they kill them because they were Jews? Why was being a Jew a crime. Racism. Racism qualifies in my dictionary as no reason.[/QUOTE]
Shut up commie.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;21186266]If you were a Soldier who surrendered to Germany, you'd probably be put in a POW Camp.
If you were a Soldier who surrendered to the Soviets, you'd probably be tortured and executed.[/QUOTE]
I'm not going to defend Soviet for their crimes, but I stand by their side in Nazi Germany vs. Soviet Russia.
They had justifications for their slaughter.
Some people are worse than Nazis.
Therefore, Nazis are good people.
:downs:
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;21186285]Last time i checked killing people because they are jewish is a reason.[/QUOTE]
Did you even read my entire post?
[QUOTE=Zemog;21186272]Lives are irreplaceable, and it's a horrible crime to take a live no matter what sort or crime they may have committed.
Nevertheless there is a huge difference between taking a life for no reason and taking a life for X reason.
If taking a life for X reason is just a big of a crime as taking a life for no reason then every country in the world, not only Soviet Russia, would be as bad as Nazi Germany.
[editline]03:44PM[/editline]
And why did they kill them because they were Jews? Why was being a Jew a crime. Racism. Racism qualifies in my dictionary as no reason.[/QUOTE]
In Hitler's eyes Jews/Others were being killed for a reason that he thought would be for the better, which makes your argument invalid.
[QUOTE=Lambda 77 :D;21186305]Some people are worse than Nazis.
Therefore, Nazis are good people.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
No one said that.
[QUOTE=Zemog;21186301]I'm not going to defend Soviet for their crimes, but I stand by their side in Nazi Germany vs. Soviet Russia.
They had justifications for their slaughter.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it was such a good justification that it was worth 20 million people instead of 6 million.
[QUOTE=N0 WAR;21186296]Shut up commie.[/QUOTE]
Again, I'm not supporting Soviet Russia, but a lot of people seem to be comparing SS to Soviet, and I believe that's not correct.
Even if both parties committed horrible crimes.
[editline]03:49PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;21186322]Yes, it was such a good justification that it was worth 20 million people instead of 6 million.[/QUOTE]
And I repeat... (Read above)
Hitler and Stalin got nuthin' on Mao
Not that mass murder and genocide is a competition or anything
Get out of here stalker :downs:
Pretty sad how you're all acting; you have to give the Nazis respect for fighting for what they believed in or wanted to do. Nevermind that most regular German troops were not Nazis but simply patriotic countrymen who were like FUCK YEAR GERMANY.
Nazi or not; people are people and it was 60+ years ago; give the man some respect, I'm sure he feels awful for what he did
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;21186263]So every nazi personally killed innocent civilians?[/QUOTE]
They still believed in fascism.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21187135]Pretty sad how you're all acting; you have to give the Nazis respect for fighting for what they believed in or wanted to do. Nevermind that most regular German troops were not Nazis but simply patriotic countrymen who were like FUCK YEAR GERMANY.
Nazi or not; people are people and it was 60+ years ago; give the man some respect, I'm sure he feels awful for what he did[/QUOTE]
but he was a nazi lol
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[QUOTE=Billiam;21187174]They still believed in fascism.[/QUOTE]
They were Nazis, but it doesn't necessarily mean they truly believed in what they were fighting for. It's like putting a gun to a religious person's head and making him convert and then expecting him to actually believe in what you made him convert to.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;21187190]but he was a nazi lol[/QUOTE]
This is starting to feel like the GMF.
[QUOTE=Profanwolf;21187201]This is starting to feel like the GMF.[/QUOTE]
ur a gmf
[QUOTE=Perfumly;21187190]They were Nazis, but it doesn't necessarily mean they truly believed in what they were fighting for. It's like putting a gun to a religious person's head and making him convert and then expecting him to actually believe in what you made him convert to.[/QUOTE]
I really don't like to label people who didn't buy into the philosophy or the children at the time as Nazis.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;21187190]but he was a nazi lol
[/QUOTE]
i kno lol
Could anyone explain to me, how come in the past we had all those heroes, and now everybody is saying "NO U NAZI LOL" and they go to jail (if they're not long dead yet).
[QUOTE=Nikita;21187442]Could anyone explain to me, how come in the past we had all those heroes, and now everybody is saying "NO U NAZI LOL" and they go to jail (if they're not long dead yet).[/QUOTE]
bcuz theyre nazis
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;21184539]It is Russia's bitch because half of Ukraine was russified and what not. In short, they fucked 'em all over and left. Basically, it's the same for all countries that war occupied and forced into the USSR.
The Russians fucked everyone and then left, leaving a stinking pile of shit.[/QUOTE]
Other way around.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;21186266]If you were a Soldier who surrendered to Germany, you'd probably be put in a POW Camp.
If you were a Soldier who surrendered to the Soviets, you'd probably be tortured and executed.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFjt0qmoNSA[/media]
True story.
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[QUOTE=Sparkwire;21186322]Yes, it was such a good justification that it was worth 20 million people instead of 6 million.[/QUOTE]
800,000 up to 2 million actually died at the gulags during Stalin's premiership.
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[QUOTE=Nikita;21187442]Could anyone explain to me, how come in the past we had all those heroes, and now everybody is saying "NO U NAZI LOL" and they go to jail (if they're not long dead yet).[/QUOTE]
Because most heroes have died off so you're left with just a few nazis, nazi collaberators, and a few heroes. When shit makes the news, it makes the news.
[QUOTE=Tudd Fudders;21184826]
Nazis aren't all that bad, theres worse out there (Stalin: Gulag's, purges, and famine)
Seriously look:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe[/url][/QUOTE]
So?
There are worse murderers out there. Does that mean we should just forget about the guy who just killed a child?
Your argument is moot. I don't like any mass-murder, even if it comes from my own country Britain, and Britain's list of atrocities is numerous.
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[QUOTE=doommarine23;21187135]Pretty sad how you're all acting; you have to give the Nazis respect for fighting for what they believed in or wanted to do. Nevermind that most regular German troops were not Nazis but simply patriotic countrymen who were like FUCK YEAR GERMANY.[/QUOTE]
I won't give the Nazi's any respect. You're asking me to respect a group of people who slaughtered millions.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21187135]Nazi or not; people are people and it was 60+ years ago; give the man some respect, I'm sure he feels awful for what he did[/QUOTE]
Doesn't excuse anything.
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[QUOTE=Perfumly;21187190]
They were Nazis, but it doesn't necessarily mean they truly believed in what they were fighting for.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter. What matters is their actions.
[QUOTE=thisispain;21192668]
It doesn't matter. What matters is their actions.[/QUOTE]
I put a gun to your head, tell you to join my ranks, be immune to all the horrible things going on around you, be with your family, or I spray your fuckin' brains on to the wall.
Yeah, you would definitely say "No, cause killing people because they're different is wrong!"
You can't judge on what it was like, so you should shut your mouth, cause you're basically an ignorant know-nothing.
[QUOTE=BBKF;21193049]I put a gun to your head, tell you to join my ranks, be immune to all the horrible things going on around you, be with your family, or I spray your fuckin' brains on to the wall.
Yeah, you would definitely "No, cause killing people because they're different is wrong!" You can't judge on what it was like, so you should shut your mouth, cause you're basically and ignorant know-nothing.[/QUOTE]
Is that supposed to be an actual argument or are you simply saying "I don't know anything".
In that case, I don't really give a toss about what you have to say.
[QUOTE=thisispain;21193085]Is that supposed to be an actual argument or are you simply saying "I don't know anything".
In that case, I don't really give a toss about what you have to say.[/QUOTE]
That's good you don't give a shit.
It's a defense mechanism, so you don't go on and try to refute what I said and be humiliated because you're an idiot with nothing of value to say. Good day.
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