• ‘I have lived underwater’ man recounts living underwater.
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[QUOTE=GunFox;44541173]Drowning isn't supposed to be that bad compared to other ways to go. Likewise suffocation isn't that bad. Same principle, really. However. Under the ocean at that depth, you would indeed simply drown. Nothing special. In space though, assuming you were sucked out or something along those lines, you'd explode. That...that doesn't seem fun.[/QUOTE] Death by suffocation is horrible. When there's a build-up of carbon dioxide it immediately sends any person into panic. Death by nitrogen is different though as the body doesn't notice it is being poisoned or that there's an actual lack of oxygen.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44541579]The decompression damage would be, again, within the suffocation timeframe, only happen if you tried to hold your breath.[/QUOTE] as a lovely little aside, this also applies to farts. so if you were holding it in when the cabin depressurized, you could damage your digestive system quite badly. this is why people who experience depressurization tend to get sudden and terrible flatulence.
[QUOTE=GunFox;44541173]Drowning isn't supposed to be that bad compared to other ways to go. Likewise suffocation isn't that bad. Same principle, really. However. Under the ocean at that depth, you would indeed simply drown. Nothing special. In space though, assuming you were sucked out or something along those lines, you'd explode. That...that doesn't seem fun.[/QUOTE] My granddad actually had a near death experience from drowning, he said there where pretty lights and he could hear his bubbles popping making dream like sounds. He was a sailor onboard some Greenpeace ship that got sunk some decades ago.
[QUOTE=Cone;44542145]as a lovely little aside, this also applies to farts. so if you were holding it in when the cabin depressurized, you could damage your digestive system quite badly. this is why people who experience depressurization tend to get sudden and terrible flatulence.[/QUOTE] At least nobody can hear you farting in space.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44541331]If you got sucked out into space with no space suit, you'd instantly start boiling and freezing at the same time. The radiation from the sun would be cooking the side of you that was exposed to it and the cold vacuum of space would freeze all parts of you that weren't. You'd also get just about the worst case of "the bends" from the loss of pressure. Going from 29.92 to 0 instantly is just as bad as the other way around. Just think of what happens when you open a new bottle of coke, that's basically going to be happening to your blood and all of your other organs.[/QUOTE] Who taught you that?
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Q8a2jmfMk[/media]
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44542540]At least nobody can hear you farting in space.[/QUOTE] Sounds like the tagline to a southpark movie. [I]in space no one can hear you fart[/I]
[QUOTE=Delta616;44542580]Who taught you that?[/QUOTE] probably the same person who told him how nuclear reactors work
Didn't they do experiments with small animals in a vacuum? IIRC they just suffocated and shit everywhere.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44541331]If you got sucked out into space with no space suit, you'd instantly start boiling and freezing at the same time. The radiation from the sun would be cooking the side of you that was exposed to it and the cold vacuum of space would freeze all parts of you that weren't. You'd also get just about the worst case of "the bends" from the loss of pressure. Going from 29.92 to 0 instantly is just as bad as the other way around. Just think of what happens when you open a new bottle of coke, that's basically going to be happening to your blood and all of your other organs.[/QUOTE] You're precious.
[QUOTE]Researchers have to eat in shifts, and squeeze by one another through narrow hallways. [B]Hot water is limited, showers are short[/B], and the bathroom is separated from the main compartment by little curtains. [/QUOTE] Damn, if only there was some way for them to get more water.
[QUOTE=OvB;44541243]You can explode if the change in pressure is great enough. Guys in the Byford Dolphin accident exploded after an explosive decompression from 9 to 1 atmospheres. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_dolphin[/url] Since nothing in space is kept even near 9 atmospheres, you'd probably be "fine" if your EVA suit decompressed or whatever. Wouldn't be good for you at all though. In fact it would probably be an even worse way to die because it's slow and excruciating. Byford guys never even knew it happened. Pressure change is a hell of a thing.[/QUOTE] Jesus fucking Christ that is some really fucking extreme shit.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpqdexBnNkM[/media] [i]It's better down under where it's wetter...[/i] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44541318]"Ejected" I'm getting a really odd picture in my mind of some dude randomly having his spine launch out of his back :v:[/QUOTE] It shoots out of your asshole and mouth.
This kinda makes me wish we were building more underwater habitats like this. Currently there're a few labs and the like, but we've yet to see a larger sprawling complex where people could live out their lives. Maybe one day we'll be motivated to build underwater cities when there isn't enough viable land for the human population, and have ourselves an undersea community. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KLO0l3e-6w[/media]
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44541318]"Ejected" I'm getting a really odd picture in my mind of some dude randomly having his spine launch out of his back :v:[/QUOTE] That's why you don't take the Bloody Mess perk
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;44543221]That's why you don't take the Bloody Mess perk[/QUOTE] Was playing Fallout 2 with bloody mess on: I kicked a guy in the stomach and he split in half.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;44543290]Was playing Fallout 2 with bloody mess on: I kicked a guy in the stomach and he split in half.[/QUOTE] Dwarf Fortress 2014 better include water pressure, this sounds like some fun shit.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;44543290]Was playing Fallout 2 with bloody mess on: I kicked a guy in the stomach and he split in half.[/QUOTE] New Vegas + Super Sledge and Super Slam equals chunky salsa overload
[QUOTE=GunFox;44541173]Drowning isn't supposed to be that bad compared to other ways to go. Likewise suffocation isn't that bad. Same principle, really. However. Under the ocean at that depth, you would indeed simply drown. Nothing special. In space though, assuming you were sucked out or something along those lines, you'd explode. That...that doesn't seem fun.[/QUOTE] From what I've heard from first hand accounts of near death experiences, drowning sucks because the water flooding your lungs is apparently very painful, coupled with the fact that you're in a total panic because you realize you're probably going to die. This is discounting pressure, though.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44541273]So, yeah, you likely have up to an entire minute of consciousness and you just slowly lose it. There's no shocking effects, no immediate pain if you don't try to hold your breath. I dunno, maybe I don't have good experiences with water but that just sounds better than drowning to me, even if you pass out a bit faster since you can't afford to hold your breath.[/QUOTE] Yeah and the main reasons why you don't freeze or burn to death instantly is because the lack of matter out in space. There's nothing to come in contact with your body in order to exchange heat. So you actually lost heat a lot slower than you'd think. That, and the fact that your circulatory system does a really good job at maintaining temperature and pressure. Not that you could survive long, but you could survive for a little while.
Dying in space would be much cooler anyway. Maybe if you were going fast enough, your corpse could stay in orbit and everyone would be too scared to go back into space. Plus, who else has died in space?
[QUOTE=Zareox7;44543701]Yeah and the main reasons why you don't freeze or burn to death instantly is because the lack of matter out in space. There's nothing to come in contact with your body in order to exchange heat. So you actually lost heat a lot slower than you'd think. That, and the fact that your circulatory system does a really good job at maintaining temperature and pressure. Not that you could survive long, but you could survive for a little while.[/QUOTE] I've often thought about a sci-fi world where some humans (literal space marines?) could be genetically modified to survive EVA with just a face mask and ear plugs - simply because it's not a huge stretch
[QUOTE=OvB;44541243]You can explode if the change in pressure is great enough. Guys in the Byford Dolphin accident exploded after an explosive decompression from 9 to 1 atmospheres. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_dolphin[/url] Since nothing in space is kept even near 9 atmospheres, you'd probably be "fine" if your EVA suit decompressed or whatever. Wouldn't be good for you at all though. In fact it would probably be an even worse way to die because it's slow and excruciating. Byford guys never even knew it happened. Pressure change is a hell of a thing.[/QUOTE] space death would be pretty great tbh because you have a cool view and you die from hypoxia - lack of oxygen - so you'd feel massively euphoric and happy as you died (probably in a minute, considering the amount of blood oxygen you have and if you kept your mouth shut)
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;44543784]I've often thought about a sci-fi world where some humans (literal space marines?) could be genetically modified to survive EVA with just a face mask and ear plugs - simply because it's not a huge stretch[/QUOTE] I suppose it's possible. You would need to have some sort of outer layer to protect against UV rays too. You'd get intense sunburns and likely develop cancer in the future because of the amount of exposure. But it's plausible that you could modify the circulatory system to withstand the environment. As I said, there's not much matter in space that you can transfer heat to and from.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;44543784]I've often thought about a sci-fi world where some humans (literal space marines?) could be genetically modified to survive EVA with just a face mask and ear plugs - simply because it's not a huge stretch[/QUOTE] I think you'd probably at least want to be wearing some clothes, for decency's sake. Would it be possible for these hypothetical space marines to breath without a space suit?
[I]I chose something different. I chose the impossible-- I chose... the Aquarius underwater lab[/I]
I always thought your blood would boil in space. On top of Mt Everest, because of the atmospheric pressure, water boils at less than 160F, and drops a degree more or less for every 500ft in elevation. Eventually your blood at 98.6 is going to be well above the boiling point. That's just what I thought, though. Was never taught anything about it. I know it's a closed system and all but once your body temperature drops to that point, that's that, and I figure it could happen quick
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44541331]If you got sucked out into space with no space suit, you'd instantly start boiling and freezing at the same time. The radiation from the sun would be cooking the side of you that was exposed to it and the cold vacuum of space would freeze all parts of you that weren't.[/QUOTE] Unless you have a huge active fucking heatsink on you, your internal heat isn't going to just jump away for no reason. And the sun will surely leave you with sunburns if your skin is exposed, but it's not going to "instantly" start boiling. Where did you get this stuff from?
[QUOTE=TheTalon;44544156]I always thought your blood would boil in space. On top of Mt Everest, because of the atmospheric pressure, water boils at less than 160F, and drops a degree more or less for every 500ft in elevation. Eventually your blood at 98.6 is going to be well above the boiling point. That's just what I thought, though. Was never taught anything about it. I know it's a closed system and all but once your body temperature drops to that point, that's that, and I figure it could happen quick[/QUOTE] The thing is the body doesn't get to cool through diffusion, since there's not much matter to conduct it. The only other way to lose heat would be through ray emission, which isn't very fast, especially with a human body.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;44543466]Dwarf Fortress 2014 better include water pressure, this sounds like some fun shit.[/QUOTE] It already contains a very basic form of water pressure when dealing with it moving, which can oddly enough be negated by making water move diagonally. (but not orthogonally) Only issue is it doesn't simulate pressure on people, just in such a way that you can flood your fort if you mess up making a well from a river. If he does add pressure, it'd be insanely great.
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