Lara Croft to be Rape Victim in Upcoming 'Tomb Raider' Video Game - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350442]Welp not buying this one. Was sort of looking forward to it, but being raped is not exactly how I'd like to spend my free time, let alone watching as hacks try to use rape as a shallow, transparent emotional ploy to get me "emotionally invested" (ala Starchild) in lieu of using good writing. I might get it if there were more of a point to the scene aside from flimsily justifying Lara Croft's first murder. Coupled with the "cornered animal" and "protect her" comments, these guys are transparently shitty writers. Honestly I'm less offended by the rape thing than I am the fact that it's just an insult to my intelligence. As if I'm not going to realize they're just trying to shock me into giving a shit. Hey why don't you kill a child, too? That worked out really well for Bioware! Maybe Lara should have an space alien abortion! Because that's so shocking and tense that it might just make up for the fact that you don't know how to write a character. Don't worry, video game writers. If you can't think of a way to endear your character to the audience, just do something horrible as fuck in front of them and play some piano music when it's done![/QUOTE] It's sort of funny, because your entire point is moot because there is no rape in this game. For the fifteenth time.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;36350674][/b] Oh really now?[/QUOTE] Yes. Really now. You didn't read what I said. You did not comprehend the point. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Thlis;36350692]It's sort of funny, because your entire point is moot because there is no rape in this game. For the fifteenth time.[/QUOTE] hello other fellow who didn't read what i said.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350696]Yes. Really now. You didn't read what I said. You did not comprehend the point. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] hello other fellow who didn't read what i said.[/QUOTE] No, you said he didn't read your point, while you didn't read that there is no rape in this game. For the sixteenth time.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350696]Yes. Really now. You didn't read what I said. You did not comprehend the point.[/QUOTE] You said that they're using rape to get you emotionally invested. You didnt bother to read my post, because otherwise, you'd, actually, here. If you dont quite understand my post, see, im trying to say, its not attempted rape, Mr. Lankist, its attempted murder. Murder does not equal rape. And if you fail the quick time event, its murder, not rape.

[QUOTE=Thlis;36350700]No, you said he didn't read your point, while you didn't read that there is no rape in this game. For the sixteenth time.[/QUOTE] And what I said was "doing sadistic shit to your characters does not make your game deep, interesting or fun." i don't see how your cute little rebuttal is relevant to that. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AaronM202;36350708]You said that they're using rape to get you emotionally invested[/QUOTE] No that is not what i said. hello let me introduce you to my friend "reading more than the first sentence."

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350717]And what I said was "doing sadistic shit to your characters does not make your game deep, interesting or fun." i don't see how your cute little rebuttal is relevant to that. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] No that is not what i said. hello let me introduce you to my friend "reading more than the first sentence."[/QUOTE] For christs sake dude your post is RIGHT THERE. I can read it with my optical viewing balls. It says, quite clearly: [quote]being raped is not exactly how I'd like to spend my free time, let alone watching as hacks try to use rape as a shallow, transparent emotional ploy to get me "emotionally invested" (ala Starchild) in lieu of using good writing.[/quote] [quote]Honestly I'm less offended by the rape thing than I am the fact that it's just an insult to my intelligence[/quote] [quote] Don't worry, video game writers. If you can't think of a way to endear your character to the audience, just do something horrible as fuck in front of them and play some piano music when it's done![/quote] [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] You dont seem to understand that theres no rape in this game. Okay, lemme say it as simple as possible. NEW LARA CROFT, NO RAPE IN GAME, ONLY COLD MURDER.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;36350729]For christs sake dude your post is RIGHT THERE. I can read it with my optical viewing balls. It says, quite clearly:[/QUOTE] Yes. It says quite clearly that doing horrible things to characters is hack-writing. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AaronM202;36350729]You dont seem to understand that theres no rape in this game.[/QUOTE] there is this thing called subtext google it.

Would you like me to bold all the uses of the word rape or rapes in that post for you? [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;36350739]Yes. It says quite clearly that doing horrible things to characters is hack-writing. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] there is this thing called subtext google it.[/QUOTE] You're changing the subject, this was about rape, not doing horrible things to a character.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;36350745]Would you like me to bold all the uses of the word rape or rapes in that post for you?[/QUOTE] would you like me to bold all of the shits i give about that particular point? here: I'm making this very clear for you. I'm talking about something completely different. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AaronM202;36350745]You're changing the subject[/QUOTE] uhhh, no, that was the precise subject i posted about when you decided to crusade. I said as much immediately after you responded, and have maintained that subject consistently as you have continued to apply some other subject to what I said.

[QUOTE=Lankist]Welp not buying this one. Was sort of looking forward to it, but[b] being raped[/b] is not exactly how I'd like to spend my free time, let alone watching as hacks try to use rape as a shallow, transparent emotional ploy to get me "emotionally invested" (ala Starchild) in lieu of using good writing. I might get it if there were more of a point to the scene aside from flimsily justifying Lara Croft's first murder. Coupled with the "cornered animal" and "protect her" comments, these guys are transparently shitty writers. Honestly I'm less offended by the [b]rape[/b] thing than I am the fact that it's just an insult to my intelligence.[b] As if I'm not going to realize they're just trying to shock me into giving a shit. Hey why don't you kill a child, too? That worked out really well for Bioware! Maybe Lara should have an space alien abortion! Because that's so shocking and tense that it might just make up for the fact that you don't know how to write a character.[/b] [i]this whole section is just completely stupid, but thats besides the point[/i] [/QUOTE]

That's cool, still not what I was talking about. Also that last one was something that happened in Prometheus FYI.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350752]would you like me to bold all of the shits i give about that particular point? here: I'm making this very clear for you. I'm talking about something completely different. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] uhhh, no, that was the precise subject i posted about when you decided to crusade. I said as much immediately after you responded, and have maintained that subject consistently as you have continued to apply some other subject to what I said.[/QUOTE] Erm, okay. Heres my post, okay? [QUOTE=AaronM202;36350610] I like how people arent actually watching the video before spouting things off about it, its not attempted rape, its a sensationalist title created by some guys to get some views. The video shows a russian dude cornering her, touching her side, and then she knees him in the dick, its a quick time event, i actually read up, unlike you, and if you fail, all he does is stab a bitch.[/QUOTE] Its about the rape, there is NO RAPE in the game, you appear to have ignored this whole thing. [QUOTE=Lankist;36350658]thats funny, i like how you didnt read my post before spouting things off about it[/QUOTE] And you replied with this, despite my post being about a specific part of your post.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;36350769]Erm, okay. Heres my post, okay? Its about the rape, there is NO RAPE in the game, you appear to have ignored this whole thing. And you replied with this, despite my post being about a specific part of your post.[/QUOTE] I have told you three times what I was talking about. I don't know what the fuck you think you're arguing or why you think you're going to get anywhere. I have changed no subjects. I have maintained this since you began your tirade. Let me ask you: What is your endgame here? What do you hope to accomplish with this particular exchange? To convince me that what I'm saying what I said isn't what I said, but in fact I said something else which you just so happened to conveniently want to argue? I'm not arguing this with you. It has no relevance to the shit I said. If you would like to reply to the notion that developers are becoming increasingly more sadistic in order to make their games more "emotionally investing," please do so. Otherwise, I don't know what the fuck you're looking for here.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350786]I have told you three times what I was talking about. I don't know what the fuck you think you're arguing or why you think you're going to get anywhere. I have changed no subjects. I have maintained this since you began your tirade. Let me ask you: What is your endgame here? What do you hope to accomplish with this particular exchange?[/QUOTE] You appear to be very dense. Okay, my post, okay? it was about the part of your post where you said rape is used because of hacky writing, in this game, okay? except, my post was about how theres no rape in the game, my post was not about shock value, it was about rape, not shock value, RAPE. You went with the bottom half of the post, i went with the top half, which i started with, this thread is about this misconception BTW, and im trying to explain to you, through your thick skull, that there is no rape in the game, but you apparently dont understand anything im typing out.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;36350811]You appear to be very dense. Okay, my post, okay? it was about the part of your post where you said rape is used because of hacky writing, in this game, okay? except, my post was about how theres no rape in the game, my post was not about shock value, it was about rape, not shock value, RAPE. You went with the bottom half of the post, i went with the top half, which i started with, this thread is about this misconception BTW, and im trying to explain to you, through your thick skull, that there is no rape in the game, but you apparently dont understand anything im typing out.[/QUOTE] Please go back to my post. Replace the word "rape" with a word of your choosing: "Sexual assault", or "attack," or "attempted rape," or "man-handling," or whatever you feel is more appropriate. Respond to that.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350817]Please go back to my post. Replace the word "rape" with a word of your choosing: "Sexual assault", or "attack," or "attempted rape," or "groping," or whatever. Respond to that.[/QUOTE] If it was attack, that'd be fine, why? Because its something completely different and accurate to how the scene plays out. You didnt do that, you said it was rape, which you gathered through this threads title alone, you didnt bother to watch the video of said scene, nor read about how its a QTE which ends in a murder, did you? And, also, if i replaced the word rape with another word, then i wouldnt have responded.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350817]Please go back to my post. Replace the word "rape" with a word of your choosing: "Sexual assault", or "attack," or "attempted rape," or "man-handling," or whatever you feel is more appropriate. Respond to that.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lankist;36350950]Edited. Now either respond to what I was saying as I explained it to you three fucking times over the last hour or stop harassing me.[/QUOTE] If you meant that then alright, however you can't really blame him for his response. All he knew was what you had said, and thus he responded solely to that. Perhaps you might consider more careful phrasing.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;36350835]If it was attack, that'd be fine, why? Because its something completely different and accurate to how the scene plays out. You didnt do that, you said it was rape, which you gathered through this threads title alone, you didnt bother to watch the video of said scene, nor read about how its a QTE which ends in a murder, did you? And, also, if i replaced the word rape with another word, then i wouldnt have responded.[/QUOTE] Please go back to my post. Replace the word "rape" with a word of your choosing: "Sexual assault", or "attack," or "attempted rape," or "man-handling," or whatever you feel is more appropriate. Respond to that. [B]I am not arguing this with you. I give cero fucks.[/B]

I dont think you grasp this, i wasnt talking about the shock value or sadism parts of your post. Maybe you're the one not reading my posts, that would make more sense.

[QUOTE=Thlis;36350841]If you meant that then alright, however you can't really blame him for his response..[/QUOTE] I can blame him for continuing to do this shit after I explained to him exactly what I meant like three times. I made it very clear what I was saying multiple times. He is continuing to argue a point I have absolutely no interest in.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350845]Please go back to my post. Replace the word "rape" with a word of your choosing: "Sexual assault", or "attack," or "attempted rape," or "man-handling," or whatever you feel is more appropriate. Respond to that. [B]I am not arguing this with you. I give cero fucks.[/B][/QUOTE] Seriously now? Do you not get this? You said-...okay. Let me explain this...differently. You said you wouldnt buy the game because [quote] being raped is not exactly how I'd like to spend my free time[/quote] This is wrong, because the game features no such thing, this is why i responded, im not sure you fully grasp that. [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;36350853]I can blame him for continuing to do this shit after I explained to him exactly what I meant like three times. I made it very clear what I was saying multiple times. He is continuing to argue a point I have absolutely no interest in.[/QUOTE] I fully understand what you meant in that post, you're just being hypocritical now.

Dude I do not have any fucking clue what you're even arguing right now. I gave you license to replace the word "rape" with whatever fucking word you want and you are still bitching at me. Gus, don't be a giant snapping turtle. I can't do this with you right now.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350881]Dude I do not have any fucking clue what you're even arguing right now. I gave you license to replace the word "rape" with whatever fucking word you want and you are still bitching at me. [/QUOTE] You dont understand english apparently. You are aware that you're in a thread about a game, Tomb Raider, that was accused of having attempted rape, which you used in your post as an example of hacky writing, i was pointing out that there is no such scene in the game, right?

Okay. Give me a word to replace the word "rape" with in my post and I will go back and edit it. Then you can either respond to what I was saying or stop bitching about it. For the love of christ I will violate the sanctity of my words if you it makes you stop.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350906]Okay. Give me a word to replace the word "rape" with in my post and I will go back and edit it. Then you can either respond to what I was saying or stop bitching about it. For the love of christ I will violate the sanctity of my words if you it makes you stop.[/QUOTE] I am truly astonished by you. But, if i must, replace it with murder, attempted murder, or assault, those are the only fitting terms to replace rape. And, not to continue the argument, but you still dont understand my post, do you? [editline]16th June 2012[/editline] Also, i was only bitching because you used rape. Im not sure how thats hard to understand.

Edited. Now either respond to what I was saying as I explained it to you three fucking times over the last hour or stop harassing me.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350950]Edited. Now either respond to what I was saying as I explained it to you three fucking times over the last hour or stop harassing me.[/QUOTE] Theres no need to respond anymore, my point is moot now that the term is replaced, since my point was that there is no rape in the game.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;36350954]Theres no need to respond anymore, my point is moot now that the term is replaced, since my point was that there is no rape in the game.[/QUOTE] I'm editing it back, then, and disregarding everything you say. jesus christ you people say I don't try to be accommodating, and this is what I fucking get when I try to play nice.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36350956]I'm editing it back, then, and disregarding everything you say.[/QUOTE] Ok? All i was doing was pointing out that theres no rape in the game, no need to get hostile.

I hope I'm not the only person who is extremely amused at the fact that AaronM202 has been antagonizing the living shit out of Lankist for the past two pages. Is anyone else amused by this? Like honestly, I don't know what's more amusing. The fact that Aaron was able to antagonize Lankist in the first place, or the fact that Lankist just let him keep going. :v: