Lara Croft to be Rape Victim in Upcoming 'Tomb Raider' Video Game - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Atlascore;36337061]It's not even a rape scene, someone catches Lara trying to escape some camp, he touches her for like two seconds and Lara kicks him in the dick and proceeds to shoot him. The video of this scene was even posted in this thread.[/QUOTE] people got mad pissed with arkham city cus of all the lewd things the inmates said to catwoman nothing shown, or even implied. only said by some gross ass prison inmates i think games aren't ready to take on stuff like it

[QUOTE=Rammaster;36337030]We have rape in other forms of media, why not video games? [B]Oh I forgot, they're for kids. Okay, no rape.[/B][/QUOTE] I don't understand this exactly Its pretty clear that games with violence in them have a 18+ rating and therefor kids shouldn't even be allowed to purchase or play it (Not saying they are not doing such things, but still)

Here's the thing. Everyone says rape is awful, but rape is no worse than murder, genocide, being forced into prostitution, or whatever. These are all themes that are prevalent in the game industry, and for good reason. They build stories. Even deep, compelling, rich worlds have these aspects because they simulate real life. Games like Dues Ex, GTAV, or Heavy Rain are far from kid friendly, and have awful adult themes. Why is it that rape is off limits when I don't think that being raped is nearly as bad being forced to choose whether to kill a man, or watching your child be hit by a car, or killing innocent people for money, as is in all those games. Rape is a tragedy, but so is murder. In real life, if I'm forced to watch my child and wife be beaten to death, that's more family friendly than being fondled slightly by a man before shooting him in the face as in this trailer?

yeah a QTE is just about the worst possible way to do it but I'm just saying what happens in the demo

Am I the only one who thinks that this is finally the bold direction they should be taking in this industry It's finally something not made as a publicity stunt and actually helps develop the character I guess it's too different in the sense that Lara has always been this strong female lead who was a badass, however that image went right down the drain after the replaced her boobs with skin balloons. Maybe here with different scenarios like these we can finally show that not only does the character have balls, but so does the game figuratively of course

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337070]plot element is different from a QTE that is about as subtle as one of the Hostel movies. i mean i'm not staunchly against game portrayals of rape, but it's not really the next level in game narrative.[/QUOTE] Unless you're against rape in any form of media, you really can't say this is somehow bad. If they glorified it or made it purely with shallow intentions, then yes, that would be a adequate problem.

also it's being made a bigger deal than it should be

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;36337053]Putting your female protagonist at the mercy of men worked so well for Samus in The Other M, it must work for Lara Croft! Didn't they do essentially the same thing with a female superhero, and in the end it horribly tarnished her reputation?[/QUOTE] At the mercy of men? She kicked his ass to oblivion!

If you think that a slight rape scene in a video game is worse than a scene where you have to kill innocent people, watch your family get murdered, or torture people in other video games, there's a problem.

[QUOTE=KingKombat;36337101]Am I the only one who thinks that this is finally the bold direction they should be taking in this industry[/QUOTE] rape as quick time events?? i think having strong non-convoluted plots and fleshed out characters should be that bold direction

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337121]rape as quick time events?? i think having strong non-convoluted plots and fleshed out characters should be that bold direction[/QUOTE] The only other way to do it would have been pure pre-rendered footage, and that doesn't draw the player in at all. Might as well just watch a movie.

quick time events are not how to draw in the player it's like 'oh rad time to watch a cool cutscene *put down da controller* wait fuck!'

[QUOTE=Marbalo;36337079]So they shouldn't do X because it makes you feel a little uncomfortable?[/QUOTE] Most people won't feel comfortable with this. The few select few like you who enjoy watching people get raped will still buy it. As for me, if the rape scene was as bad as I initially thought, there's no way I'd buy the game. Nor will most people because they'll see from reviews or the rating on the back that "OH, rape scene" no thanks. I choose my movies that way. I don't enjoy movies with a constant theme of sex. So when it says something like that on the rating on the back, I'm not going to rent it.

[QUOTE=Popiillil;36337067]Now, if there were actually a depicted RAPE scene in a video game, I'd be all for it being A rated. Heck, I'd applaud Australia for banning it (You know it would happen) but that's just me. I know some of you would be masturbating to the scene of a video game character getting raped on your screen.[/QUOTE]Ever play F.E.A.R. 2? Driving force of the plot is avoiding and containing a ghost which wants to rape you. [sp]You fail in every way.[/sp]

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337121]rape as quick time events?? i think having strong non-convoluted plots and fleshed out characters should be that bold direction[/QUOTE] Why is it that of all the things video games have presented, you draw the line at rape concepts?

[QUOTE=Loriborn;36337130]The only other way to do it would have been pure pre-rendered footage, and that doesn't draw the player in at all. Might as well just watch a movie.[/QUOTE] why are they doing it in the first place besides generate attention and some easy shocks? i could see why they'd be desperate, by now there have been so many Tomb Raiders i think even the developers have gotten bored.

plus the fact that this small scene isn't the only means to develop the character obviously not to mention the fact that you prevent it anyways if you play the game who the fuck puts the controller down in the middle of the cutscene that's just inconvenient

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36337146]Why is it that of all the things video games have presented, you draw the line at rape concepts?[/QUOTE] i didn't draw any line, i'm just extremely cynical.

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337160]why are they doing it in the first place besides generate attention and some easy shocks? i could see why they'd be desperate, by now there have been so many Tomb Raiders i think even the developers have gotten bored.[/QUOTE] You could use this piss poor argument for ANY concept if you really wanted to.

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337186]i didn't draw any line, i'm just extremely cynical.[/QUOTE] Then be cynical for all that applies or not at all. Right now it sounds like you're bitching for the sake of bitching.

What's the issue here? It's a fucking video game. We can have torture, murder, obliteration of races and societies, wife abuse, anything by H.R Giger, but as soon as one person is a victim of ATTEMPTED rape in a VIDEO GAME it's an issue?

[QUOTE=The golden;36337157]Ok, I'm sorry but I'm going to have to point this one line out as it is just fucking stupid. Rape is physical and mental torture. So much so that many rape victims actually turn to suicide to end the suffering.[/QUOTE] Are you telling me survivors of the Syrian massacres, or veterans of The Vietnam War got off easy compared to Lara after she was slightly felt up in that video?

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337186]i didn't draw any line, i'm just extremely cynical.[/QUOTE] at least you're aware

I think it's good that they're going into darker directions with their characters and I want to see more of it in the future, but I just really doubt it's going to properly help with developing the character. I want to see games that are unafraid of doing darker stuff to further develop good characters in interesting ways, I just don't think they're going to do this particular example well.

I fail to understand how you could have the audacity to say that watching people die is not mental and physical torture.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;36337194]People get mad and offended by [I]everything[/I], it's the way it's been for the last century. Pretty much every form of entertainment that isn't books or music has been criticized heavily since it's conception.[/QUOTE] well maybe it's not videogames, but the audience that is the problem either way, both need to mature up before games can attempt to tackle actual issues apart from 'russians are evil' or whatever

Honestly I want to play this scene and get Bad end, Not because I want to watch someone get raped, but to see how far they actually go with it. Because I expect it to be some softcore copout and this bullshit to be just LOL BUY OUR GAME AND WATCH LARA CROFT GET RAPED LOLOLOLOLOLOL WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THIS HYPE!? Prove me wrong developers.

[QUOTE=The golden;36337215]I fail to understand how you can liken rape to prostitution.[/QUOTE]He said forced prostitution. That is [i]literally[/i] rape with a multiplier strapped to it.

[QUOTE=Revan564;36337008][video=youtube;ol_-QGlwRqc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol_-QGlwRqc&t=2m20s[/video] Skip to 2:20 to see what they're talking about. In my opinion, this is all to cause controversy. It's not even that bad because she ends up kicking the dude's ass anyway.[/QUOTE] [b]FUCK ME[/b] that's intense-looking. I'll be picking this up for sure. Also crashing Antinov :v:

Oh my God will everyone shut the fuck up. The scene is on, one of the goons grabs up and gets all up on her, but unless you're a fucktard you'll beat the QTE and Lara survives completely unscathed. The only reason they're hyping it up as a complete "rape" is for controversy and publicity.