Lara Croft to be Rape Victim in Upcoming 'Tomb Raider' Video Game - Polidicks

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337643]some ugly dirty nerds also cried when Aries died so no i would say a game could impact you that emotionally.[/QUOTE] i don't even know why people cried over that. she was a boring character who you didn't even get to know very well, and her death was as random and pointless as your average family guy cutaway gag.

i wasn't upset when she died, i was annoyed she was my designated healer

[QUOTE=TheHydra;36337930]i don't even know why people cried over that. she was a boring character who you didn't even get to know very well, and her death was as random and pointless as your average family guy cutaway gag.[/QUOTE] I was just glad I didn't waste time getting her ultimate. If I'd gotten her ultimate I'd be heartbroken.

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36337924]How in fuck would you rape her? You would have to be one hell of a badass.[/QUOTE]Well, she's a teenager stranded on an island who has never really done any of the things she has become known for.

[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;36337913]Santitization is the [i]absolute worst[/i] way you can handle violent subject matter. People need to see exactly how disgusting murder is so that they don't vote for warmongering politicians.[/QUOTE] So you're saying that by "sanitizing" murder, half life 2 is encouraging warmongering politicians? I'd like to point out that this is in no a straw man by the way, as that is the exact example I used of a game that portrays every kill as a clean kill? I'm aware there's been dramatic deaths in the half life 2 series, but only one that I can think of off hand and hundreds that were not.

[QUOTE=Bentham;36337935]I was just glad I didn't waste time getting her ultimate. If I'd gotten her ultimate I'd be heartbroken.[/QUOTE] ha, i didn't even think about that. what a dick move on square's part

[QUOTE=TheHydra;36337930]i don't even know why people cried over that. she was a boring character who you didn't even get to know very well, and her death was as random and pointless as your average family guy cutaway gag.[/QUOTE] FF7 was totally overrated anyway, there were better final fantasies. there's really no cool way to say final fantasy, you'll always sound like a knob

NaViGaTr had the right idea: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s0lzbCK9f8[/media]

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337954]FF7 was totally overrated anyway, there were better final fantasies. there's really no cool way to say final fantasy, you'll always sound like a knob[/QUOTE]Continuing Fantasy?

[QUOTE=Elspin;36337943]So you're saying that by "sanitizing" murder, half life 2 is encouraging warmongering politicians? I'd like to point out that this is in no a straw man by the way, as that is the exact example I used of a game that portrays every kill as a clean kill? I'm aware there's been dramatic deaths in the half life 2 series, but only one that I can think of off hand and hundreds that were not.[/QUOTE] Were we playing the same game?

[QUOTE=Bentham;36337907]This is a good point, I see what you're getting at.[/QUOTE] I'm glad, for that at least. If at least one person can understand what I was trying to say (even if they don't agree with it), instead of throwing out straw mans and acting pretentious to defend their views instead of defending them logically... that's an achievement on the internet :v:.

This is the same thing as the "nuns" attacking Hitman in the latest trailer. A great marketing tactic, covered by the story... And most people dig it, some won't...

[QUOTE=Elspin;36337976] instead of throwing out straw mans and acting pretentious to defend their views instead of defending them logically... [/QUOTE] sorry, my fault

[QUOTE=thisispain;36337954]FF7 was totally overrated anyway, there were better final fantasies. there's really no cool way to say final fantasy, you'll always sound like a knob[/QUOTE] "FF" or "FF game(s)" is passable

Getting pissy over nothing. It's a video game, and it's not like it's a major feature of the game. People old enough to be playing this game should be mature enough to be able to deal with stuff like this. Again, it's a fucking video game, not real life.

[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;36337970]Were we playing the same game? Because the Half-Life 2 that I know is nothing but tragedy.[/QUOTE] Yeah, like that scene when you meet Alyx is half life 2 - I can see how they were going for a grim and tortuous depiction in this scene of how torn Alyx is to kill a group of metropolice whilst they are attacking Gordon, all too aware that they were once normal people like her [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d65mebooEig&feature=player_detailpage[/media] Wait no, she makes a joke immediately and you walk past their crumpled bodies then go and have a light-hearted meeting with some old friends. Sure, half life's story is dark and it's filled with tragedy, but you can't argue that the violence isn't heavily "sanitized" if you want to call it that.

Well I suppose it is, in some regards. But, like I said, if they portrayed it the way it should be portrayed, you wouldn't want to play video games. I'm speaking more specifically about games like 'Modern Warfare', etc.

[QUOTE=Elspin;36338008]Yeah, like that scene when you meet Alyx is half life 2 - I can see how they were going for a grim and tortuous depiction in this scene of how torn Alyx is to kill a group of metropolice whilst they are attacking Gordon, all too aware that they were once normal people like her [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d65mebooEig&feature=player_detailpage[/media] Wait no, she makes a joke immediately and you walk past their crumpled bodies then go and have a light-hearted meeting with some old friends. Sure, half life's story is dark and it's filled with tragedy, but you can't argue that the violence isn't heavily "sanitized" if you want to call it that.[/QUOTE]And virtually every guy I know immediately stared at her ass until they made it to Kleiner's lab.

A lot of people keep thinking that if you don't react to the QTE, Laura gets raped. Even if you do fail, I doubt they would even show the scene, she's most likely gonna die. Hell, in Mafia 2 you are almost raped during Vito's time in prison, why is it so concerning now?

[QUOTE=Rocko's;36338029]A lot of people keep thinking that if you don't react to the QTE, Laura gets raped. Even if you do fail, I doubt they would even show the scene, she's most likely gonna die. Hell, in Mafia 2 you are almost raped during Vito's time in prison, why is it so concerning now?[/QUOTE]They already said they don't depict it, if you fail, she just dies.

They are pulling a mw2. They just want free publicity for the game.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36338039]They already said they don't depict it, if you fail, she just dies.[/QUOTE] Then why is this blown out of proportion then? The only thing was that he tried to rape her, but in the end he just kills her.

[QUOTE=Elspin;36338008] Wait no, she makes a joke immediately and you walk past their crumpled bodies then go and have a light-hearted meeting with some old friends. Sure, half life's story is dark and it's filled with tragedy, but you can't argue that the violence isn't heavily "sanitized" if you want to call it that.[/QUOTE] part of that is also because Alyx is a horribly 2 dimensional character that seems to be completely devoid of any emotion in order to appeal to players

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;36338070]They are pulling a mw2. They just want free publicity for the game.[/QUOTE]It doesn't seem like that by any stretch. I think they mentioned it because its a part of her character development and when she makes her first kill. [editline]15th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;36338077]part of that is also because Alyx is a horribly 2 dimensional character that seems to be completely devoid of any emotion in order to appeal to players[/QUOTE]The end of Episode 2 wasn't too bad, but it was utterly predictable. [editline]15th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Rocko's;36338076]Then why is this blown out of proportion then? The only thing was that he tried to rape her, but in the end he just kills her.[/QUOTE]Kotaku.

[QUOTE=thisispain;36338077]part of that is also because Alyx is a horribly 2 dimensional character that seems to be completely devoid of any emotion in order to appeal to players[/QUOTE] to be honest, aren't pretty much all characters in pretty much every game like that?

[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;36338018]Well I suppose it is, in some regards. But, like I said, if they portrayed it the way it should be portrayed, you wouldn't want to play video games. I'm speaking more specifically about games like 'Modern Warfare', etc.[/QUOTE] It's not "sanitizing" violence that makes it wrong, in Half Life it's alright - making the kills clean isn't used to make the killing seem acceptable, we're already alright with it because Gordon is acting in self defense in a grim apocalyptic future. The reason "Modern Warfare" games are such a problem isn't that the killing is sanitized, but rather that the killing is backed by patriotism rather than necessity. Either way, if you didn't sanitize the action in Half Life it'd be a disaster - imagine if every time you killed a metrocop they had to go through an overlong death sequence based incredibly realistically on how you harmed them, like they're clutching their leg you shattered with your crowbar that's no wbleeding out and screaming - based on how varied and believable the deaths were it'd either become cheesy bad or too traumatic to play and the rest of the storyline would be lost on you.

[QUOTE=thisispain;36338077]part of that is also because Alyx is a horribly 2 dimensional character that seems to be completely devoid of any emotion in order to appeal to players[/QUOTE] That doesn't really make sense to me, why would being devoid of emotion make her appeal to players? I mean that certainly doesn't appeal to me. Plus, she IS showing emotion - just the wrong one depending on whether you think she should feel sympathy towards the combine killed or not.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;36338146]Honestly I didn't smell anything until Eli had to tell Gordon something, and then was interrupted.[/QUOTE]It was all the little hints the GMan had been dropping. [editline]15th June 2012[/editline] I actually did feel a bit bad for the Civil Protection in Half-Life 2, because they make it clear very early on that they are literally just humans when you meet Barney. They're just people who, at basically the end of civilization, did what they had to in order to survive. Before Gordon's arrival, there was literally no hope for humanity so they did what was necessary. The Combine themselves though, they are lobotomized tools, no free will. I was indifferent in killing them.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;36338160]Actually, she only knocked them out. [IMG]http://forums.blackmesasource.com/images/emoticons/bulb.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I know it doesn't make the sound their suits usually do when they're killed, but I have a hard time believing that she "just knocked them out" when they're in a crumpled heap on the ground looking very dead - I'd like to give valve the benefit of a doubt that in a scripted sequence they could at least post the ragdolls like they'd just been knocked out if that's what they were trying to get across :v:. I don't think it's unreasonable to say she spared them though and I can definitely see where you're coming from

RAPE AS DRAMA, We're pulling away from those dirty sexist dudebro shooters now!