School Children seem to dislike Competitive Sports - Survey
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[QUOTE=sgman91;44615251]I bow before your edginess. It's sharpness is too great for me to bear.*
*Note: This only seems to happen on anonymous internet boards and middle school playgrounds, probably for the same reason.[/QUOTE]
facepunch isn't anonymous
[QUOTE=.Lain;44615320]facepunch isn't anonymous[/QUOTE]
Yes it is. Usernames means nothing, especially when you can simply create a new one when you get a reputation you don't like.
[QUOTE=sgman91;44615338]Yes it is. Usernames means nothing, especially when you can simply create a new one when you get a reputation you don't like.[/QUOTE]
if it were anonymous you wouldn't be able to link profiles of other services like you have
you have the option not to do that, but the majority of posters aren't under an anonymous guise
Probably not so much that kids don't like to lose as it is kids don't like to feel useless to a team or effort because they're not cut out for sport.
That right there is the single reason I detested almost every moment of P.E. It doesn't matter how much effort into the activity you put in if the Joe Bloggs group of fit people will always wipe the floor with you, even if they're untrained at a sport.
I wasn't even fat - I was actually pretty thin, with spindly arms and muscles.
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Source: [URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27113085[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Coffee;44614937]Sports are only fun when you get to beat the shit out of each other.[/QUOTE]
In my day we made shields out of plywood and swords out of oak planks. The beatings were glorious.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;44613966]Uhhhh. Or they don't want to play the shit competitive sports laid out by these schools. I remember back in high school we were never allowed to play just a simple game of rugby or football; always with with the stupid rules and limitations on them. EVERYONE wanted to play an actual competitive sport but wasn't allowed to which confuses me about these statistics..[/QUOTE]
or dodgeball with those fluffy balls
[editline]22nd April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44614606]math actually has a use[/QUOTE]
so does being physically fit
When I played (american) football in high school, my junior year was by far the best. I got to actually play unlike sophomore year, but everyone played to have fun instead of winning like senior year. I wonder if the whole "everyone get a trophy" age exists because parents want to see their kids win, and don't really want to just let their kids play for fun.
[QUOTE=.Lain;44615346]if it were anonymous you wouldn't be able to link profiles of other services like you have
you have the option not to do that, but the majority of posters aren't under an anonymous guise[/QUOTE]
True, but no one is forcing anyone to do it. You can easily be anonymous on the forum
[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;44614030]Perhaps we are experiencing a paradigm shift! Maybe children will now play sports for the fun of it rather than for the competitive nature of it. Imagine how awesome it would be if nobody cared who won or lost, only if it was fun and cooperative.[/QUOTE]
Shut up nerd
I can see this. When I was at school I was only really interested in playing the game, the actual results be damned; kicking a football about is fun without screaming at each other at the slightest error.
It goes much the same for videogames, too.
[QUOTE=amos106;44615683]When I played (american) football in high school, my junior year was by far the best. I got to actually play unlike sophomore year, but everyone played to have fun instead of winning like senior year. I wonder if the whole "everyone get a trophy" age exists because parents want to see their kids win, and don't really want to just let their kids play for fun.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there's a reason I liked it more when I played my first few years of football (3rd, 4th, 5th grades) because it was about playing for fun, and at the same time we won some games. I remember we lost the championship in our little inter-league tournament my second season playing, but we had a lot of fun playing that year, especially since I got everyone riled up by growling n' shit.
[QUOTE=Wii60;44613929]
people need to learn that losing is possible in life so they can learn to get past it, otherwise it's a rocket train into a brick wall.[/QUOTE]
too bad compeditive sports only reinforce the mentality that you always have to win to get ahead, which is also a rocket train into a brick wall when you can't win
The last time I scored a goal in football or anything was when I was like 9 years old :v:
When I played hockey at school, it was a no touch rule, and you always had to allow the other team to take turns.
It was fucked. After school we would play. Body checking and the lot, just no hitting from behind.
It was fun as hell. We'd play aggressively, but there wasn't fights, because we played a fair game.
Shit, the NHL could take a few tips from my childhood plays in hockey.
they don't like it because they are forced to play them. Kinda like how competitive multiplayer games are not for everyone, the ones who don't like them or games that follow Sirlin principles don't play them, problem solved. But competitive school sports are forced, no option for casual sports.
I played a lot of sports when I was a kid because that's what my parents wanted me to do. It's not like I enjoyed the sports, had any friends on any of the teams, or even played very well. I was just told that it's what I was going to do. I played Baseball hockey, soccer and basketball as a kid. It sucked. It wasn't fun. It didn't teach me the value of winning or losing. Like most kids in my position, it taught me that my parents cared more about what they got out of something than what I did. That my team winning or losing was more for their enjoyment than mine and I was secondary to their goals in an activity that I was participating in.
Does anyone think kids like doing that? If a kid wants to play a sport, or enjoys playing that sport, or has friends in a sports team, yeah, sure the kid can enjoy that and probably will actually GAIN something out of it. most kids in my experience are forced into sports and don't really enjoy them at that stage and again, it's more about the parents.
I feel like this study is talking about that more than kids simply not enjoying being active or wining or losing
[QUOTE=BeAR!);44614723]weekly exercise and teaching kids winning isn't everything, is more than useful enough[/QUOTE]
Exercise doesn't equal to competitive sports.
The competitive definition of winning is contraproductive in the long run.
[QUOTE=Wii60;44613929]kids dont want to lose, shocker.
people need to learn that losing is possible in life so they can learn to get past it, otherwise it's a rocket train into a brick wall.[/QUOTE]
Problem is, the world teaches you that its either winning or losing, and if you lose, you are automaticaly shit. Not just "hey, you lost at X. No big deal." but more like "YOU FUCKING LOST YOU FUCKFACE. SHAME ON YOU"
Well from my own experience, PE always sucked. Always. I mean I'm not a fit guy and don't have interest in sports (Which in itself is socially excluding) But being the worst is just no fun. Naturally excluded from the game, and when you fuck up people know it'll happen and they give you shit for it. What's worse is when you get the actual athletes in the regular PE classes. They play hard and get competitive about it, and you just end up getting shat on. Every single friday it was Weight Training II against Team Activities, and it sucked every time. Because they throw hard. You know your team's gonna lose. Maybe it's just the fact I have 0 interest that makes me a bit negative on sports, or maybe my experience is just bad.
I don't get this whole "kids should learn about losing through sport" bullshit. Do people really think that we should be teaching people about the harsh realities of life when they're at their most innocent and least cynical? That's stupid. Just let kids be kids until they start naturally questioning adulthood in their teens and [I]then[/I] crush their hopes and dreams.
I hated the really competitive atmosphere of the sports in PE, like I was fairly average so whilst everyone wanted me for stick + ball games like tennis, cricket and rounders everyone avoided me like the plague when it was soccer, basketball or volleyball because I was terrible at them - just not easy for you to play when you've got asthma and it's difficult to be running around constantly.
No shit, if it's competitive and you fuck up, everyone yells at you about it.
It's why I'm in band where everyone's chilled out and cool instead of Football filled with like 40 of those douchebags that everyone knows as such.
I like playing sports and encouraging good plays and smart decisions. I don't like when there's some asshole taking things way too seriously and getting pissed off and angry. It's a game, sports are games, and unless you are being paid to play, have fun and don't have an aneurysm because someone made a mistake.
[QUOTE=Wii60;44613929]kids dont want to lose, shocker.
people need to learn that losing is possible in life so they can learn to get past it, otherwise it's a rocket train into a brick wall.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't help that you aren't allowed to lose. All this 'positive failure' thing they have in schools now. Seems to be a bit early to say its a failure yet though.
the only games I cared for where dodge ball and capture the flag.
If schools had paintball, none of this would be a problem.....
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44618068]If schools had paintball, none of this would be a problem.....[/QUOTE] .... oh god.
I really dislike the idea of people only getting into college because they were a good football player in highschool. I don't have a problem with almost any other sport. Just football.
Sports are horrible if you're not a good at them or just don't like em when you're a kid.
Barrier of entry is high and when you try to join in the fun the other kids are having you just feel like you're dragging them down.
The only reason I've started to become athletic in my senior year is because everyone already knows me so they don't care about my lack of skills so I can build on those skills without feeling like shit
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