Karzai and Afghanistan will back Pakistan if US goes to war with it
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Karzai would be in a shallow grave right now if it weren't for the US military protecting him. His own army doesn't like him, he's nearly been bombed countless times.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;32931391]We need to go back to our foreign policy from the 18th century
STICK TO OURSELVES UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE PROVOKES US[/QUOTE]
We don't have to do it; just stop placing our dick where it doesn't belong.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32931421]Ron Paul 2012[/QUOTE]
And we'll have the taxes and regulations of the 18th century to boot! Progress!
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32932816]Depends on which direction you'd like the nation to go in. It's definitely not "progressive" though.[/QUOTE]
I know, I'm being sarcastic.
He just prevented any assassination attempts on himself from the taliban :V
[QUOTE=MightyMax;32927585]They act like they're a threat to anyone.[/QUOTE]
Well gee, let's ignore all that history Afghanistan has of swallowing up the armies of major powers and spitting them back out. If the Afghani government declared war on the US in this scenario you can bet that will agitate the population enough to where yes, it would be a threat to us.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;32933240]Well gee, let's ignore all that history Afghanistan has of swallowing up the armies of major powers and spitting them back out. If the Afghani government declared war on the US in this scenario you can bet that will agitate the population enough to where yes, it would be a threat to us.[/QUOTE]
Give everybody AK's and declare war on US. Afghanistan would win.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;32933282]Give everybody AK's and declare war on US. Afghanistan would win.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;tZQdaEFa_60]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZQdaEFa_60[/video]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;32933240]Well gee, let's ignore all that history Afghanistan has of swallowing up the armies of major powers and spitting them back out. If the Afghani government declared war on the US in this scenario you can bet that will agitate the population enough to where yes, it would be a threat to us.[/QUOTE]
They would be a threat on their own land, American soil would remain undisturbed so I don't consider them a threat
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;32933240]Well gee, let's ignore all that history Afghanistan has of swallowing up the armies of major powers and spitting them back out. If the Afghani government declared war on the US in this scenario you can bet that will agitate the population enough to where yes, it would be a threat to us.[/QUOTE]
And how do you explain the toppling of the Taliban by the US?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32927650]Pakistan isn't in the middle east.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/middle-east-map.gif[/img]
Pakistan, that country that borders Iran and Afghanistan, isn't in the Middle East? Since when?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32934032]And how do you explain the toppling of the Taliban by the US?[/QUOTE]
You could probably argue that the international security force only assisted the Afghani Northern Alliance
[editline]24th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=DonnyLombardi14;32934929]hawt stuff[/QUOTE]
Is that some kind of metaphor for pakistan and afghanistan?
It would be interesting to see a conflict between the US and pakistan though, mainly due to the fact Pakistan wouldn't be a pushover in the initial attack, they have well trained experienced troops (Due to their massive contributions to the UN) and the tech and weapons to back it up. India would probably get involved as well, would end up as a massive mash up.
The afghan's would probably be tasked with occupying the mountains that make the borders so hard to control.
Pakistani militant assholes are the ones attacking the troops in north afghanistan. I know, my brother was wounded by one in combat.
Lol those puny countries not submitting to the superior american rule.
Correction to the title "Karzai and Afghanistan will back Pakistan [b]when[/b] the US goes to war with it".
[QUOTE=Contag;32927788]Karzai, we installed you and we can depose you.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and going by your track record of deposing previous warlords and dictators you gave power to it'll only take a decade and thousands of American lives
But we won't go to war because Americans don't want any more of it.
Right?
We're over there in Afghanistan training their military and police forces and they basically spit in our faces and say they would side with Pakistan? Fuck them. Let's pull out of there, why the fuck are we helping them restore order to their country exactly? Bastards.
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;32936728]We're over there in Afghanistan training their military and police forces and they basically spit in our faces and say they would side with Pakistan? Fuck them. Let's pull out of there, why the fuck are we helping them restore order to their country exactly? Bastards.[/QUOTE]
Because strategically it's probably more of a security risk to piss off Pakistan and face attacks than piss off the US and face reduced aid.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32931421]Ron Paul 2012[/QUOTE]
No. He's a Christian Conservative xenophobic homophobic moron just like the rest. The only difference is, he wants to give power to dipshits like Sarah Palin and Rick Perry rather than the central government. Also I almost forgot, he wants to legalize marijuana.
[QUOTE=Contag;32934950]You could probably argue that the international security force only assisted the Afghani Northern Alliance
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You can say a lot of things, but it doesn't change what actually happened.
We go over there and help their people, train their army, etc, etc. Then they end up being the ones killing us?
Sounds just like the Soviet/Afghan situation years ago.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32941642]That's the stupidest argument for something like this, just because it shares a border doesn't mean it's in the middle east too.
If that was the case every country on Asia/Africa/Europe would technically be in the middle east because they would all share borders at some point, IE India is suddenly in the middle east too.
And yes, it's considered by some part of the middle east, but most descriptions of it don't feature anything at far east as Pakistan, it's mainly used to refer to places like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iran, and everything in between.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was common knowledge Germany was classified as the middle east?
Labeling things as discrete entities is pretty counterintuitive anyway. Middle east is used as a catch all term for a large region around the gulf, typically islamic countries, but can be used for areas further out from there
e.g. turkey, and the islamic bits of the balkans
Hmmm, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and now possibly Pakistan? Why don't we just go ahead and occupy the whole Muslim world while we are at it. We would be just as fucked as we are now!
[QUOTE=Reserved Parkin;32929070]Pakistan can't control their own damn borders. Damn Taliban running around free over there crossing into Afghan. Yeah, I don't get why the Afghan president would support that shit.[/QUOTE]
I think to a certain extent, that's not entirely "accidental".
Though i think at times they get a bit more of the backblast, i don't think they entirely want secure borders.
[editline]25th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheHypnotoad;32935053]It would be interesting to see a conflict between the US and pakistan though, mainly due to the fact Pakistan wouldn't be a pushover in the initial attack, they have well trained experienced troops (Due to their massive contributions to the UN) and the tech and weapons to back it up. India would probably get involved as well, would end up as a massive mash up.
The afghan's would probably be tasked with occupying the mountains that make the borders so hard to control.[/QUOTE]
I can't see Pakistan wanting to go to war. I really doubt India would sit that opportunity out. Pakistan couldn't just commit some of it's forces to stopping a US attack, and then still have troops to keep it's borders safe from India.
India would be all over that in a heart beat.
[QUOTE=Derubermensch;32947099]Hmmm, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and now possibly Pakistan? Why don't we just go ahead and occupy the whole Muslim world while we are at it. We would be just as fucked as we are now![/QUOTE]
If you think we're occupying Libya/Yemen or that actions in those areas are the same as those in Iraq or Afghanistan you're off your rocker.
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