Paypal updates its policy, prevents users from joining class-action lawsuits against them.

[Nerts]

Paypal's good as long as you never actually keep money in the account or are selling stuff, they side with the buyer by default.

[zombays]

And that's why I haven't used PayPal in....I can't remember

[Zephyrs]

[QUOTE=Zero Ziat;37910974]I don't think you can actually do that...[/QUOTE]

Are you an American? There's numerous examples of employers requiring employees to waive their rights to prosecute.

[QUOTE=Zero Ziat;37910974]Class-action lawsuits are large suits which take lots of time and money with small reimbursements. You can still individually sue...

Or that's what the rest of the thread says. I am no expert and probably no one else here is.[/QUOTE]

Individually suing is beyond the means of the average individual. If you sue them, they will countersue with 4 trillion bullshit statements. They don't care that none of them have merit. All they want to do is to make it so prohibitively expensive that you cannot actually afford to attack them.

This happens around the world.

[Andokool12]

[QUOTE=subenji99;37911437]I already stopped using Paypal and deleted my account over a year ago for their treatment of indie developers who only wanted to [URL="http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/09/enemy-known-xenonauts-vs-paypal/"]sell pre-orders[/URL] and [URL="http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/paypal-freezes-regretsys-account-for-needy-children/"]charities offering physical incentives.[/URL]

Fuck that company.[/QUOTE]

And there was that whole very public thing where they froze thousands of dollars worth of Minecraft sales on Notch back when it was just him working from home

Do you use an alternative? Can anybody recommend a decent paypal alternative? Google checkout?

[Jurikuer]

[QUOTE=sk8rboi;37908294]I don't understand how that is legal.[/QUOTE]

It's not. They are legally responsible no matter how many fancy words they put in their policy.

[subenji]

Yeah I tend to use Google Checkout or moneybookers now.

[zakededodead]

How does this work? Is it like signing a waiver but for anything paypal wants to do?

[7thAmendment]

Unfortunately, this is legal, thanks to a 2011 Supreme Court ruling, decided 5-4, that says corporations are allowed to push consumers with complaints out of court and isolate them in pseudo-legal arbitration. That's why we've started a crowdcasing (crowdsourcing with legal claims) site, [url]www.ConsumersCount.org[/url], to fight back. Check it out.

PayPal joins parent company eBay, AT&T, T-Mobile, American Express, DirecTV, Comcast, Nissan and dozens more companies who have inserted these arbitration clauses into their user agreements in the 18 months since the court decision.

What's interesting is also that PayPal has continued the recent trend of allowing consumers to “opt out” of the arbitration provision. But these opt-outs are not always what they appear to be. In the case of eBay, the consumer can opt out and retain the ability to sue in court, but only by reading the small print do you learn that the only place you can bring suit is Salt Lake County, Utah.

PayPal’s opt out right is no better; if you opt out and bring your claim in court, that court must be located in Santa Clara County, Calif., or Omaha, Neb.

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[URL]http://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/upcoming_policies_full[/URL][/QUOTE]