Retail stores opening late Thanksgiving night, forcing some to skip Thanksgiving dinner. Petitions, - Polidicks

Everyone who's working Thanksgiving night (and didn't volunteer for it) should call in sick.

[QUOTE=lavacano;38469758]Everyone who's working Thanksgiving night (and didn't volunteer for it) should call in sick.[/QUOTE] If they're anything like our company, any employee who does that who isn't legitimately vomiting up their internal organs will get fired right then and there.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;38469773]If they're anything like our company, any employee who does that who isn't legitimately vomiting up their internal organs will get fired right then and there.[/QUOTE] And how would they verify that? Do they send someone to your house to check up on you? Because that's illegal.

[QUOTE=lavacano;38469791]And how would they verify that? Do they send someone to your house to check up on you? Because that's illegal.[/QUOTE] I won't speak for all companies, but I've heard most require a doctor's note as proof when it comes to major retail days.

Wastewater plants like mine are 24/7. I've already been told my dayshift relief will be "ill" that day. 16 hours + no turkey = fuuuuuck. To those in the retail world, I feel your pain. Hopefully people decide to stop being assholes about the holidays soon.

Ah, Black Friday. I wonder who will get trampled to death this year.

Luckily our store is closed Thanksgiving and opens 5 am Friday. But I know there is a movement to get people to boycott walmart because of this 8pm on Thanksgiving bullshit. That and they treat their workers like shit.

[QUOTE=Bryanrocks0;38470155]Luckily our store is closed Thanksgiving and opens 5 am Friday. But I know there is a movement to get people to boycott walmart because of this 8pm on Thanksgiving bullshit. That and they treat their workers like shit.[/QUOTE] Shit, I wish Gamestop would go back to opening at 5am. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), we made 1/3 of our total sales for the entire 21-hour day between 12pm-1:30am, which of course means that opening at midnight was a complete success.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;38469715]To be honest, I don't think Black Friday should be something that we encourage as a culture. It sure as hell isn't something to be proud of as it makes nearly everyone who participates look like a raging idiot, and it more often than not results in the mistreatment of employees.[/QUOTE] Agreed. Internet shopping should be making the ridiculous in-store rush obsolete in a few years anyway. Employees shouldn't be subjected to outrageous hours and working conditions so a bunch of assholes can buy a slightly less profitable TV and maybe the crowds are big enough to get the store on the evening news.

As much as I want to get my new Nike Bron Bron shoes at a low price, I just think opening at 9PM on THANKSGIVING DAY is fucking insane. So good on these workers finally retaliating.

What the fuck are your unions doing over there??

Thank Odin I got a job throwing bags into airplanes because I could not deal with this shit.

Do casual/part time retail employees get paid extra for working on holidays in America? I know here in Australia quite a few businesses will pay their employees 2-3x their normal wage for coming in on holidays and shit.

[QUOTE=Antdawg;38471317]Do casual/part time retail employees get paid extra for working on holidays in America? I know here in Australia quite a few businesses will pay their employees 2-3x their normal wage for coming in on holidays and shit.[/QUOTE] Depends on the holiday but most often it's time and a half from my experiences in retail. I'm not sure about Black Friday though...

I work 6:30PM On Thanksgiving, and will be working until 7AM the next day.

[QUOTE=Antdawg;38471317]Do casual/part time retail employees get paid extra for working on holidays in America? I know here in Australia quite a few businesses will pay their employees 2-3x their normal wage for coming in on holidays and shit.[/QUOTE] Depends on the business and the state. Connecticut being what it is, we get no overtime pay for shifts longer than 8 hours, and we get no holiday pay.

I work at Target and I got off on Thanksgiving and I don't work until 3pm Black friday. Definitely lucky considering most of the store is going to be going in at 8:45pm on Thanksgiving and staying until 4 in the morning, some later.

[QUOTE=Mlisen14;38471032]What the fuck are your unions doing over there??[/QUOTE] Companies like WalMart have extreme anti-union rules. If any employee is caught mentioning a union, the company heads will fly out to that store and shut shit down. [editline]16th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=StupidUsername67;38475199]I work at Target and I got off on Thanksgiving and I don't work until 3pm Black friday. Definitely lucky considering most of the store is going to be going in at 8:45pm on Thanksgiving and staying until 4 in the morning, some later.[/QUOTE] When I worked at Target I didn't work at all on Black Friday. I worked in produce though. Target does it really smart, how they place items in specific locations of the store. It keeps crowds from forming in certain departments. I remember they had TVs in the clothing and stuff.

[QUOTE=Mlisen14;38471032]What the fuck are your unions doing over there??[/QUOTE] Basically getting kicked in the balls. Once Wal-Mart and Target waded into selling groceries it took a big cut from unionized stores like Safeway, and Raleys. Since those two companies entered the market the contracts for the UFCW workers gets worse and worse. I'd insert a political comment, but I think you all know where this is going.

I like Black Friday because I can buy things I'd never be able to afford otherwise. [editline]16th November 2012[/editline] Plus it's fun to wait in the line and hear everybody around me chatting in suspense.

I work at wal-mart and I have to work from 1:30 pm to fucking 10:30 on thanksgiving, and I have to work for black friday its bullshit as fuck [editline]16th November 2012[/editline] Plus I'm only getting regular pay, I'm thinking about protesting it's bullshit. I'm only a cashier idk what I can do.

[QUOTE=AfroNick;38471423]Depends on the holiday but most often it's time and a half from my experiences in retail. I'm not sure about Black Friday though...[/QUOTE] It varies in by state. For example I get "holiday hours" that I get for each hour I work on a holiday. I can use these hours for a sick day or something or cash them out at the end of the year. And it also depends on the retailer because my old job didn't give me anything extra. They made me drive in a blizzard to go walk around and do nothing and I got nothing for it.

This year I find myself extremely fortunate that I have off BOTH Thanksgiving and black friday...the retail gods have blessed me.

[QUOTE=TonyP;38480401]I like Black Friday because I can buy things I'd never be able to afford otherwise. [editline]16th November 2012[/editline] Plus it's fun to wait in the line and hear everybody around me chatting in suspense.[/QUOTE] The funny thing is, the Black Friday Sales are actually worse than the sales that Sears puts on during their Hometown Events. They are also not as good as, say, almost all other promotional that they run. In all honesty, you could buy that shit for the same damn price almost any time of the year.

Man I had to work all of thanksgiving day at walmart last year. Setting up the store for black friday. That really sucked. I had cold mcdonalds for dinner :I This year I've moved up to Illinois and work for a help desk, so I do get thanksgiving and black friday off, so I'll spend 10 hours driving home for thanksgiving, but at least I won't have to work. It's ridiculous how many sales I've seen so far, and it's not even black friday yet.

[QUOTE=Nikota;38466989]I don't know why people would even go black friday shopping, unless they're buying something like a TV or anything worth several thousand, and marked down a lot. You can just find the same savings online, and not have to deal with all the bullshit.[/QUOTE] It's the same mentality that drives hundreds of people to a single denny's for their "free grandslam breakfast" promotion they do once every year. Why fucking bother with all that bullshit? Your time, and comfort from negative stress, is way more valuable than the $50 you saved off that TV. Also the funny thing about this is that Target requires all employees to work at least one shift on black friday or you are fired, which means you can't even call the day off if you are visiting family out of town for thanksgiving. Granted because everyone works that day the shifts are really short (3-4 hours) but it's still rediculous. Especailly since, any other time during the year, they'll give you 5 hours a week in a bid to try and get you to quit (since they overhire for the holidays, but can't ever lay anyone off or they'd have to pay unemployment, so they just give you hardly any hours when its not the shopping season).

[QUOTE=valkery;38483717]The funny thing is, the Black Friday Sales are actually worse than the sales that Sears puts on during their Hometown Events. They are also not as good as, say, almost all other promotional that they run. In all honesty, you could buy that shit for the same damn price almost any time of the year.[/QUOTE] A 42 inch TV from a decent brand for 180 bucks? [editline]17th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=KorJax;38483813]Your time, and comfort from negative stress, is way more valuable than the $50 you saved off that TV.[/QUOTE] You've clearly never been poor. To a poor person, 50 bucks might as well be 500.

I offered to work Black Friday because I need the money. Midnight to 11 am and I've got the rest of the day off. It's a chance for more hours, and I'm not going to complain about that in my situation. I'm lucky that I work for people who don't pull the shit the major retailers apparently do.

[QUOTE=TonyP;38486738]A 42 inch TV from a decent brand for 180 bucks? [editline]17th November 2012[/editline] You've clearly never been poor. To a poor person, 50 bucks might as well be 500.[/QUOTE] Clearly I have because when I have a grand total of about $400-$500 to my name after credit card bills to be paid at the end of this month and my rent, I wouldn't exactly say I'm not poor But yet I live pretty comfortably. Its as easy as knowing how to save money, knowing whats really valuble, and knowing how to properly spend money on the things you need and can comfortably buy. Sales don't work on me because the tricky thing about most sales is you end up spending more money than you otherwise would on shit you don't need (it's why companies do it- it gets them more money in the long run). I'll buy stuff on sale whenever I can but I don't ever spend money out of the blue on something just because its cheap unless I actually need and was planning on getting one. It's also why Steam sales never do anything for me. If there's a game I want on Steam that is actually on sale, chances are I've already bought it. I don't ever buy random games either, I only buy stuff I know I will like and stuff I know I will be able to spend quality time with. That said there was a good bit of great stuff that came out a few months ago that I never got simply because I was playing other stuff and money, so I'll likely try and pick those up on sale. Being poor is mostly stressful if you aren't making enough money to meet your essential needs and you literally live paycheck to paycheck. I'm lucky in the sense that this isn't the case for me - I have a roomate to split the bills with, and I make enough money in my job to meet rent and the cost of living with having some extra change left over, so I would even say its almost fun to live like this (in the sense that in an RPG, having unlimited gold/items gets boring or shallow). It's all about what priorities you put on *stuff*. I personally think time is more valuble than money, because if you lose 2 hours of your time you will never get that back while if you lose $200 off a bill, a wasted finaincial or sale opportunity, etc you can easily get that resource back. Also, if you a poor you must try and avoid debt like the plauge. Credit card debt is bad, car debt is bad, etc. Try to only buy something, even important purchases (like a car) if you actually have the money for it. You will find yourself living so much better and having money left to go on vacations/etc if you avoid debt. Hell on my credit card I always pay it in full - its basically like a debit card for me and I only use it because I basically make $200/year in rewards every year because of it, not to mention other bonuses (good credit score building, extended warrenties, etc). Of course debt isn't toally avoidable, like for school, and sometimes you do need a car loan to get one. But this is where it gets fun because you just have to do your homework and shop smart for these things. Buy a used car not over $3000 and if you get loan for it try and meet at least a third of the cost of the loan on the downpayment (so your loan is effectively 1/3rd already paid off). Don't ever pay minimums. Keep the cost of schooling down by staying in state/county, go to community college first before transferring to a 4-year, stay out of private schools, etc. Have multiple roomies so the rent/bills isn't nearly as expensive (plus they make life more interesting and fun!). Being poor is all about strategy. Sales can be to your benefit in this strategy but you should never sacrifice your wellbeing for a saved buck or two. Because then, you put more value on your finances than anything else, which means your life overall is going to be much more miserable and addicted to getting -things-, even if you don't need them. Ironically this means you end up spending more money than you normally would, simply because you buy crap that's on sale all the time.With good strategy, you'll find yourself spending less on things you don't need (even if its on sale), which in turn means you have more money and less debt, which means being poor means you can blow $900+ on a roadtrip with friends or your S.O. across the country for two weeks, an experience that actually has value beyond just *stuff*, and still have plenty left over at the end of the month to cover rent and such. Of course I'm talking from the perspective of someone who is poor but not in abject poverity. If I was living paycheck to paycheck I'd have to have a slightly different strategy (no road trip, buying food a little more cheaply, etc), but the general idea is the same. The less value you put on things and the more value you put on your experiences or your time, the more money you'll have in the end and less stressful your life ends up being if you lose out on some cash.

I spend all day on Newegg on Black Friday. It's pretty awesome.