Kickstarter updates terms: 'The creator must complete the project' - Polidicks

i wish this would've happened before the fucking pictures for sad children idiot pulled his big baby stunt

I hate this but at the current rate of how much people whine from blatantly unstable projects..:v:

Don't blame them at all for doing this; although it's kinda surprising that it's only [i]just[/i] been implemented

[QUOTE=catbarf;46027707]Kickstarter was always supposed to be about donating to an idea, not investing or pre-ordering, but it looks like enough people got pissed that it didn't function as a fancy pre-order system that they've actually changed the agreement. As if finishing a game or developing a new tech product wasn't difficult enough, now if a team fails or gets stuck in development hell they can be taken to court or forced to refund money they've already spent. Who, besides established, known players, as opposed to the amateurs Kickstarter was supposed to be for, is going to take that risk now? Well done Kickstarter, you have pandered to idiots and single-handedly destroyed the concept on which your service is based.[/QUOTE] sorry that the creators of the service know what they want to do with their own service? if you don't think you can actually complete something then you shouldn't be trying to take money for it, it's unethical as all hell

Wasn't there some board game a girl was making and she said it was almost done without proof but she went outside and the sun god told her not to complete it?

[QUOTE=catbarf;46027707]Kickstarter was always supposed to be about donating to an idea, not investing or pre-ordering, but it looks like enough people got pissed that it didn't function as a fancy pre-order system that they've actually changed the agreement. As if finishing a game or developing a new tech product wasn't difficult enough, now if a team fails or gets stuck in development hell they can be taken to court or forced to refund money they've already spent. Who, besides established, known players, as opposed to the amateurs Kickstarter was supposed to be for, is going to take that risk now? Well done Kickstarter, you have pandered to idiots and single-handedly destroyed the concept on which your service is based.[/QUOTE] The terms of service seem quite reasonable about the extent to which the creators are responsible for delivering. The terms are quite clearly aimed to curb scamming. A developer that makes some effort to be transparent about what they're doing can still quit without major repercussions. Only the last item on the list seems like it might screw developers over: [quote]- they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.[/quote] If you quit a job to develop and relied on your funding to live, having to return the remaining funds could be bad.

When exactly would this clause be called on though? When a project openly declares "Hey shit happened, and because reason X, Y, and a bit of Z, we can't finish the original idea" or when that certain portion of the backers start to become whiny impatient children? Or if a project is past it's estimated completion date, how long is too long? "Finishing the project to the absolute best of the creators ability" should be pretty obvious, and I know it's mainly but in there to try and weed out scammers and the people who never had any intention of even doing anything, but this is ultimately going to come and bite people that have real issues going on. It might not happen often, but it will happen.