American pick-up artist dumped in Australia after using 'rape' tactics - Polidicks

I mean I'm all for choking in the bedroom, but with a stranger in public? The fuck. I went through a teen-angst-why-can't-i-get-laid pickup-artistry phase years ago and the only remotely realistic advice they have is "break the touch barrier." The rest is just creepy redpill-esque power play stuff.

So, apparently after all the hotels kicked him out he [url=http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/julien-blanc-protests-shut-down-seminar-given-by-his-buddy/story-fni0fit3-1227115219636?nk=edd4f16ad7b83c321ac24ca88d444abb]had to give his seminar on a boat, abandon it completely leaving his assistant in charge, and the attendees still got picked up by police as even the boat company refused to let them stay.[/url]

How are we supposed to teach our male kids [B]NOT[/B] to rape when this guy is going around teaching them [B]HOW[/B] to rape?!

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;46428364]How are we supposed to teach our male kids [B]NOT[/B] to rape when this guy is going around teaching them [B]HOW[/B] to rape?![/QUOTE] I don't know how much you're joking, but this is actually a problem. Young boys see people do this kind of shit and it gives them literally the worst idea about what women "want"

[QUOTE=.Isak.;46428299]I mean I'm all for choking in the bedroom, but with a stranger in public? The fuck. I went through a teen-angst-why-can't-i-get-laid pickup-artistry phase years ago and the only remotely realistic advice they have is "break the touch barrier." The rest is just creepy redpill-esque power play stuff.[/QUOTE] As I explained before, very little of that stuff is actually about seduction, it's about working yourself into a mental state where you're able to have no qualms about violating someone. The powerplay stuff is unconvincing to everyone else because it's not supposed to convince anyone else, it's supposed to convince the person doing it.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46428103]Fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] This isn't supposed to be a guide lol. It's from psychology textbooks and is used from a male's perspective to demonstrate domestic partner abuse (physical and emotional). It's not exclusive to men, but just the way the chart is written. Here's the exact same chart from my textbook for Gender and Psychology [t]http://i.imgur.com/nZ3bUlP.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Trogdon;46428490]This isn't supposed to be a guide lol. It's from psychology textbooks and is used from a male's perspective to demonstrate domestic partner abuse (physical and emotional). It's not exclusive to men, but just the way the chart is written. Here's the exact same chart from my textbook for Gender and Psychology [t]http://i.imgur.com/nZ3bUlP.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] He did tweet it as "may as well be a checklist" and tag it #HowToMakeHerStay, though. He deleted the tweet, but he [I]did[/I] tweet it. [del]facepunch auto-url fucking up everything[/del] fucking here [url]http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://twitter.com/RSDJulien/status/510599743341625344[/url]

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46428498] Because some people are so boring and uninteresting that they need a gimmick to be attractive to the opposite sex. Said people are also probably also interested in sexual intercourse, not actual relationships.[/QUOTE] I don't support this guy at all, but what you're saying is absolute bullshit. Some men are so afraid of girls they will flat out not talk to them, at all. If you have any form of actual phobia then this can be related to that. Till I learned how to be self confident I was exactly like this, a girl would talk to me and I could not interact at all. On the "only interested in sexual intercourse" garbage, so what? I'm not sure if you realise this, but having sex feels good and generally most living being will continue to do things that make them feel good. [editline]7th November 2014[/editline] That all said this guy Julien guy is obviously a fucking idiot.

Pffft I love Julien's videos on YouTube. Definitely worth a watch. My favorite part is how edited the video in the op is :v: Out of context all of their videos seem horrible: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB3jn3TF3Y4[/media]

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46428717]If you have a phobia then using "pick up artist" techniques isn't going to help you at all. As for "only interested in sexual intercourse", guys like this are pretty much the embodiment of the argument "no means yes if you say "come on" enough". It's one thing to be in it for the sex, it's another to harass and impose on someone until they say "fine, lets go, just leave me the hell alone afterwards".[/QUOTE] People get desperate mate, I would pay $5000 right now to rid myself of shit in my life that causes me to have anxiety to a point where I cannot function. That's how some men feel talking to women. At a point it does come down to personal choice. Being harassed into sex verbally seems like something that if you actually did not want to do it you wouldn't (and i know, drugs and alcohol make a difference). Physically is obviously a whole different story.

I just think there is a right and a wrong way to teach "talking to women". Manhandling people isn't it. Focusing on your own psyche and seeking professional counselling is probably better than listening to "pick up artists" [editline]7th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;46428764]Coercion is a very real thing. Again, this guy seems like the kind of guy that says (and means) "a thousand no's and a yes is still a yes". The same kind of person who wouldn't take a hint when someone isn't interested. The same kind of person who's going to stalk you all evening unless you leave the place you're hanging out. This sort of thing isn't ok, no matter how shit your anxiety is, this sort of thing isn't acceptable.[/QUOTE] I agree with that, I see it happen very very regularly as I don't really drink when I go out. I see all these idiots just trying over and over to kiss girls or get with them. That kind of stuff is pretty sad.

pickup artists like this should be castrated. I can't tolerate sleazy douchebags, this society, especially where I'm from, is full of them.

Why can't everyone just be a hentai watching wizard like me.

[video=youtube;QZuOKUrwoys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZuOKUrwoys[/video] Oh god, this guy is a REAL life Dennis Reynolds. It's almost like the Dennis system but even worse.

[QUOTE] The womaniser posted a YouTube link to his new lecture on Twitter on Sept. 9, which outlined ways to engage a woman in Tokyo. It included grabbing her and forcefully pulling her into his crotch, while yelling a playful Japanese word. “When you go to Tokyo….if you’re a white male, you can do what you want. Just grab her, pull her in. She’ll giggle. Just say 'PIKACHU' or 'POKEMON' or something to take the pressure off," he said.[/QUOTE] Are we sure this isn't satire?

[QUOTE=Jojje;46427398]'Pick-up artistry' is so fucking weird and disconnected from reality.[/QUOTE] I'm really conflicted about this, its deceptive and borderline creepy but at the same time it works. These guys get laid all the time. It may be all lies and mind games but it works. So could an argument be made that they are in fact more connected to reality? Because they sure do know what works in real life, where our "normal" view of courtship and romance is largely based on movies, books and songs and pretty much never works.

[QUOTE=Buck.;46430199]I'm really conflicted about this, its deceptive and borderline creepy but at the same time it works. These guys get laid all the time. It may be all lies and mind games but it works. So could an argument be made that they are in fact more connected to reality? Because they sure do know what works in real life, where our "normal" view of courtship and romance is largely based on movies, books and songs and pretty much never works.[/QUOTE] they're coercing and physically intimidating women into sex. you're fucking delusional.

[QUOTE=Buck.;46430199]I'm really conflicted about this, its deceptive and borderline creepy but at the same time it works. These guys get laid all the time. It may be all lies and mind games but it works. So could an argument be made that they are in fact more connected to reality? Because they sure do know what works in real life, where our "normal" view of courtship and romance is largely based on movies, books and songs and pretty much never works.[/QUOTE] It works in a very narrow definition of 'works'. Yes, it gets creepy douchebags laid. But it's not anything that's gonna get anyone a mutually positive relationship of any sort.

How many here are in the friendzone? Because with the stuff you post, it seems to be everyone.

[QUOTE=Nuggi man;46430309]How many here are in the friendzone? Because with the stuff you post, it seems to be everyone.[/QUOTE] ... excuse me?

Can't they just go around and ask 'ayy grrl u wann fuk'? It then just boils down to yes or no. Sadly psychotic fucks like this guy is what gives extremist feminists their ammo. I can't help but wonder how many people he's persuaded into this mentality, if there were people he tried to teach into thinking like this but failed, they could at least make the police aware of this guy, right?

[QUOTE=Nuggi man;46430309]How many here are in the friendzone? Because with the stuff you post, it seems to be everyone.[/QUOTE] Its "friendzoned" people who this creep prays on. Its a business. His job selling people ( disgruntled "nice guys" and misogynists ) hope.

who the fuck needs coersive tactics to get with girls anyway The big, magical thing I've done to get with largely whoever I want is just be a generally good, nice, smart, clean person. It works like 80% of the time. And if it doesn't, they literally don't want to have anything to do with you, and you just have to deal with that.

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H9axLZQiUEM/VFyjL89n_4I/AAAAAAAAHDA/Of35yxgxhi4/s0/2014-11-07_20-47-08.png[/img] The Government canceled his Visa, he's officially been kicked out of the country :v: [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-07/pick-up-artist-julien-blanc-leaves-australia-amid-outrage/5874604[/url]

[QUOTE=Derpmeifter;46430242]they're coercing and physically intimidating women into sex. you're fucking delusional.[/QUOTE] How am I being delusional by trying to consider both points of view. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend his latest Japan thing, that is definitely going way way too far and is borderline criminal. I just think from having seen some of their other videos over time that they are able to give certain women exactly what they want and they aren't forcing anyone to fuck them. Pickup wouldn't exist if it didn't work, the reason these guys get into it in the first place is because the real and normal ways didn't. Even Julien himself only got into it because no girl ever liked him, he was ugly, he was a looser, he tried to be the nice guy and girls didn't want that he got lonely and depressed, for him it was get a girl or die trying. Honestly I think he's been doing it for way too long and just went crazy where he can't even see boundaries anymore. I know I will get a lot of shit for this but as long as women keep sleeping with these so called "Assholes" and "Douchebags" there will always be assholes and douchebags, or guys pretending to be assholes and douchebags to get into their pants. You don't turn to something like pickup without being pushed to it in some way. Banning the tour will do fuck all to stop this, in fact it's only giving RSD more spotlight. All of the material is on the internet already, anyone can pick up and learn that. On top of that pickup is not rape 101, despite what the article would want you to believe, women choose to sleep with these men BECAUSE of the way they interact with them.

Uhm isn't the idea of a being a good pickup artist that you can get women to bed with you WITHOUT using force? Else it's should be called rape artistry.

[QUOTE=katbug;46430374]who the fuck needs coersive tactics to get with girls anyway The big, magical thing I've done to get with largely whoever I want is just be a generally good, nice, smart, clean person. It works like 80% of the time. And if it doesn't, they literally don't want to have anything to do with you, and you just have to deal with that.[/QUOTE] Not everyone is this lucky and people are tired of useless advice like "just be yourself" which is why PU exists.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46427468]He's a pickup artist. As I said before, pretty much all that's actually involved in "pickup artistry" is rape. The mannerisms and the pickup lines are generally messed up because they're not actually supposed to work, things like the attitude and the creepy lines are all there for the benefit of the person listening to make them think that: 1. Their target is actually willing, and 2. That they're doing something other than rape. The only parts that actually, do anything, as it were, amount to sexual assault.[/QUOTE] Has Will Smith lied to me?

[QUOTE=buro;46430503]Not everyone is this lucky and people are tired of useless advice like "just be yourself" which is why PU exists.[/QUOTE] Except "just be yourself" is the best advice. A girl didn't want to go on a date with me because we had known each other for too long. So on a whim I decided to pretend that I hypnotized her to make her forget who I was. She, incredibly enough, played along so I introduced myself and when I suggested a date she said yes. That was also the first time I asked a girl out on a date and I have no idea why I decided to do what I did. Even though it turned out that she was kind of insane further down the road, it still worked. :v:

[QUOTE=Nuggi man;46430309]How many here are in the friendzone? Because with the stuff you post, it seems to be everyone.[/QUOTE] The friendzone is a terrible and stupid concept based on the idea that if you are nice to a woman she is obligated to sexually please you and in not doing so somehow victimizes you Everyone who buys into the idea that the friend zone is a thing is a delusional social fuck up [editline]7th November 2014[/editline] If a girl who you weren't attracted to got to know you and became your friend and made advances that you reject, would that make you the bad guy?