Conway: 'Of course I don’t have any evidence' of surveillance claims - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Anderan;51962146]Are you being sarcastic or did you not take a history class in school?[/QUOTE] I took Poli Sci in senior year of high school and enjoyed it, but we never covered McCarthyism.

[QUOTE=TAU!;51962827]I took Poli Sci in senior year of high school and enjoyed it, but we never covered McCarthyism.[/QUOTE] I said a history class. Like a basic history class you take almost every year, or does your state have some fucked up core curriculum that doesn't include any history classes? Or did you grow up outside of the US.

Yeah we covered that in regular 11th or 12th grade history. Do you remember HUAC?

[QUOTE=Anderan;51962832]I said a history class. Like a basic history class you take almost every year, or does your state have some fucked up core curriculum that doesn't include any history classes? Or did you grow up outside of the US.[/QUOTE] Are you... really getting this serious about a school subject that not everybody has taken? Also, I somehow misread "history" as "something strictly political", not sure how.

[QUOTE=TAU!;51962847]Are you... really getting this serious about a school subject that not everybody has taken? Also, I somehow misread "history" as "something strictly political", not sure how.[/QUOTE] I'm not really getting that serious about it. I'm just asking if you have ever taking a general history class. I find it hard to believe you haven't considering it's a requirement to graduate in most states.

[QUOTE=Anderan;51962852]I'm not really getting that serious about it. I'm just asking if you have ever taking a general history class. I find it hard to believe you haven't considering it's a requirement to graduate in most states.[/QUOTE] I guess New York (State or NYC) doesn't require it, or my high school was just that bad. Anyway, to avoid going off topic further, this is obviously a case of McCarthyism in action and Trump supporters need to understand this.

[QUOTE=TAU!;51962883]I guess New York (State or NYC) doesn't require it, or my high school was just that bad. Anyway, to avoid going off topic further, this is obviously a case of McCarthyism in action and Trump supporters need to understand this.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://ecs.force.com/mbdata/mbprofall?Rep=HS01"]Apparently it actually is, or at least was, required to have at least one unit of American History in NY[/URL], but anyways. It's funny to see Trump supporters rant and rave about how all of the Russian accusations are just a witch hunt many of them are either supportive of this or don't feel the need to comment on it. But then again most of the Trump supporters I personally know hated Obama so they are happy to latch onto any accusation that supports their idea that "Obama is a TRAITOR who LITERALLY destroyed America".

[QUOTE=Anderan;51962832]I said a history class. Like a basic history class you take almost every year, or does your state have some fucked up core curriculum that doesn't include any history classes? Or did you grow up outside of the US.[/QUOTE] Our school only introduced it in AP classes. Many schools don't really cover it. You guys need to remember education standards are fucked in the states

I wasn't in AP history but we still learned about it at my highschool. I also live in SF bay at a sort of well funded school so they also went into the trail of tears and the fucked up parts of our history

[QUOTE=Chonch;51962191]Zip up that vitriol for a moment and actually think about the post, god dammit. You don't investigate to back up the evidence you already gave, you investigate to confirm or deny your suspicions. Dismissing cases out of hand doesn't get anything done.[/QUOTE] But a suspicion needs some sort of inciting evidence to trigger it. In the case of a murder, a dead body is evidence to warrant investigation. But in Trump's case, he made up a suspicion out of nowhere. There was nothing to incite it other than his paranoia. It'd be like going to the police and saying "I suspect my neighbor murdered someone. No I don't have any proof and I haven't seen anything going on, I just think he may have"

[QUOTE=Chonch;51962191]Zip up that vitriol for a moment and actually think about the post, god dammit. You don't investigate to back up the evidence you already gave, you investigate to confirm or deny your suspicions. Dismissing cases out of hand doesn't get anything done. Believe it or not, many students and schools gloss over political history. It's not terribly interesting either. [editline]14th March 2017[/editline] Case in point. Attack looked to be spontaneous terrorism, but a suspicion of negligence and/or treason sparked a Congressional investigation. Nothing has yet been found to back up this suspicion, and in fact the supposed perpetrator has been effectively exonerated. This is how the system works, people.[/QUOTE] I'm not being vitriolic, I am genuinely interested in how you're able to find the bright side of even the most indefensible statements and actions. Also, investigations are usually started with at least some evidence that suggests the claim. Trump, as Conway has just admitted, has nothing to support the accusation he's made against Obama here. It's totally baseless.