• Food project proposes Matrix-style vertical chicken farms
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I don't know what to say.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;34713176]They are only a little bit more than the final edible product, even when alive. Inhumane is letting something suffer. These exist only to be eaten. They wouldn't ever come to world, if they weren't supposed to fill that purpose. They aren't [I]able[/I] to be uncomfortable with their existence. It's life incapable of suffering. Why should it be inhumane?[/QUOTE] It would be inhumane to eat such a horrible meat. Seriously, it's like taking a small steak and covering it in red paint and grease to make it look bigger.
That looks terrifying.
This reminds me of a short story of dining in the future that has a guy eating some meat that came from a chicken genetically engineered to be in a vegetative state that was apparently more humane. Oh and the guy was also eating pork that came from a pig engineered to talk and have a want to be eaten and the guy has a moral dilemma over whether or not it was morally right to do that but yeah the whole thing still reminds me of that story. I don't think the animal activist groups are gonna like this though.
I'm usually de-sensitised as to how they go about raising animals for slaughter, but I really don't know what to think about this. I cringe at the thought of how meat production will be 50 years down the line.
I'm indifferent on this. One hand the chickens are grown in a very over-numbered shed but this in all technicality seems to be the better choice than that of the fast grown barn chickens because these essentially have no brain, just a stem ergo no memories or feelings.
As one of the comments in the source said, this looks like natural evolution of current farming methods. I'm ok with this.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;34713267]I'm usually de-sensitised as to how they go about raising animals for slaughter, but I really don't know what to think about this.[/QUOTE] It's just nothing like we're used to, I think that's the main problem
That shit cant be good for you.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;34713295]That shit cant be good for you.[/QUOTE] I understand the other viewpoints about morality and such. But this one? What the fuck are you talking about.
Sounds cruel yet it's more humane than what we already do.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;34713284]As one of the comments in the source said, this looks like natural evolution of current farming methods. I'm ok with this.[/QUOTE] The current farming methods have already been proven to be really cruel and most especially really deteriorating the quality of whatever meat is produced.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34713160]This is so retarded and cruel I struggle to find words. Battery chickens have already been proven to be very shitty meat that have a bad taste and little to zero benefits, just imagine a chicken that can literally not move for its entire freaking life and that's basically made braindead so it doesn't struggle too much - it would be among the worst meats you can ingest ever.[/QUOTE] You only skimread the article did you? They're going to stimulate the muscles with shock therapy Re-read it and you'll see.
Scientists have found out how to clone meat, i'd rather see that funded than this.
[QUOTE=Catdaemon;34713341]I understand the other viewpoints about morality and such. But this one? What the fuck are you talking about.[/QUOTE] The more you prevent an animal from moving, the less it develops its muscles. The less it develops its muscles, the more you have to feed it grease and steroids and pure proteins to keep the muscles from developing and obtaining a decent amount of meat. The more you feed the animal with all that crap, the shittier the meat is, both in taste and health-wise because you get to eat steroid-filled meat that was never actually used by the animal before it was killed. There's a reason outdoor raised chickens are tastier, recognized as healthier and more expensive than battery chickens you know. Same with eggs.
It's not like factory farming could get any worse, so why not?
[QUOTE=Van-man;34713397]You only skimread the article did you? They're going to stimulate the muscles with shock therapy Re-read it and you'll see.[/QUOTE] It's still a shitty method. You're going to get very bulky, ultra-firm meat that's going to be disgusting.
[QUOTE=Catdaemon;34713341]I understand the other viewpoints about morality and such. But this one? What the fuck are you talking about.[/QUOTE] There is a possibility that these places might become filled with diseases as is usually the case with factory farms.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;34713449]There is a possibility that these places might become filled with diseases as is usually the case with factory farms.[/QUOTE] There's this, too.
Not sure if it's a step in the right direction, but it seems a less horrible-to-live-in environment than the mass factories we have right now (for the chicken). Still, creepy thought.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;34713492]Not sure if it's a step in the right direction, but it seems a less horrible-to-live-in environment than the mass factories we have right now (for the chicken). Still, creepy thought.[/QUOTE] It's a wide step in the WRONG direction. It's still a horrible place to raise chickens in. You'd still have to feed the chickens somehow, which will produce lots and lots of feces, which will make the place dirty as fuck (even if you use tubes and all) which will lead to a lot of diseases, especially since birds are transmitting most of their diseases via shit.
The fact that if my meat comes from [t]http://cdni.wired.co.uk/462x693/k_n/Matrix_09_1.jpg[/t] Makes me not want to eat said meat.
This seems like something that would be viable later, but not really right now. Like Ganerumo said, the quality of the product will deteriorate, and the price of the meat will go up due to the cost of production. So really you'd be better off just raising them organic and free range and charging the extra for that instead of raising them battery in a factory with a significant loss of quality.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;34713554]The fact that if my meat comes from [t]http://cdni.wired.co.uk/462x693/k_n/Matrix_09_1.jpg[/t] Makes me not want to eat said meat.[/QUOTE] I bet a starving african child would eat it :V
Yes, growing a brain dead chicken and pumping it with chemicals and shit food sounds like it will make for a healthy product. This is fucking wrong. Besides how fucked it up it is to do that to a living creature we already know how much healthier organic and free-range chicken is to caged chicken. You couldn't get lower quality edible meat if you tried.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;34713554]The fact that if my meat comes from [t]http://cdni.wired.co.uk/462x693/k_n/Matrix_09_1.jpg[/t] Makes me not want to eat said meat.[/QUOTE] Because you have been "spoiled" with the choice. It's the same as lab grown meat, no-one in the west wants it, but if we didn't have the choice to eat naturally grown meat, we'd beg for it. We might not have much choice in the future (well, depending on your income).
Well, chicken that are raised in an environment where they can actually run around taste a lot better. I'll stick to that kind.
quantity over quality. tasty
reminds me of those urban legends about fast food [QUOTE][B]Mutant laboratory meat[/B] Around March–April, 2000, an Internet rumor spread via e-mail in Brazil claimed that McDonald's meat was actually made from a genetically modified animal maintained in a laboratory. The e-mail stated that "the few who saw it assure it is a very unpleasant sight: they have no limbs or horns, no bones (undeveloped cartilage instead), no eyes, no tail and no fur; its head is about the size of a Baseball; they are fed through tubes connected directly into their stomach".[6] The e-mail carries on saying that "some irreversible health damage can be done by eating this meat, resulting in diseases who manifest themselves in a way similar to AIDS, and have symptoms related to Alzheimer's Disease" and ends encouraging the reader to boycott McDonald's until it sells actual beef. This rumor is a plot point of the science fiction novel The Space Merchants, by Frederik Pohl (w/CM Kornbluth).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34713538]It's a wide step in the WRONG direction. It's still a horrible place to raise chickens in. You'd still have to feed the chickens somehow, which will produce lots and lots of feces, which will make the place dirty as fuck (even if you use tubes and all) which will lead to a lot of diseases, especially since birds are transmitting most of their diseases via shit.[/QUOTE] It's definitely a step in the right direction. This looks like it would be a hell of a lot easier to keep clean than current battery farming methods. Cheap shitty meat is already being made, this is a way to make it safer and less painful and stressful for the animal. It's obviously no alternative to free range farming but in the future the price of that is going to go way up due to the amount of land it requires. As much as I hate to admit it, mass production of meat like this is the future, they just need to work out the issues with meat quality and it will thousands of times more efficient than traditional farming.
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