• Food project proposes Matrix-style vertical chicken farms
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They're doing the exact same on humans. We're all so thoughtless and brainless, that we don't realize how overpopulated the planet is, and how we're totally out of resources that we're all fucked.
This is a bit creepy but I'm totally okay with this. As BANNED USER said, it does seem like a better alternative to the massive barns crammed full of chickens
How about we stop hurting these living beings. Think of this: Let's say I was a 5-dimensional being with 12th-dimensional capabilities, then I could bully all you 3-dimensional beings so easily, it wouldn't even be funny. It's the same thing here. We have to live in perfect balance, and right now the Earth is over-populated. You don't even need to kill off three thirds of the population, just stop having kids for a fucking while. And meat isn't even good for us, so why the fuck? In the end, you can get devoured the same way you eat your meats. And it even looks the same too. Remember that you're flesh and blood, and that your body is disectable. Same as every other animal.
[QUOTE=Sanius;34720111]people eat too much. there are too many fast food restaurants and super-markets chicken and livestock in general should be treated as a delicacy because it is a limited resource. people need to look at other alternatives before playing god[/QUOTE] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_suffering_from_undernourishment"]Leave.[/URL] [editline]16th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Otsegolation;34723228]How about we stop hurting these living beings. Think of this: Let's say I was a 5-dimensional being with 12th-dimensional capabilities, then I could bully all you 3-dimensional beings so easily, it wouldn't even be funny. It's the same thing here. We have to live in perfect balance, and right now the Earth is over-populated. You don't even need to kill off three thirds of the population, just stop having kids for a fucking while. And meat isn't even good for us, so why the fuck? In the end, you can get devoured the same way you eat your meats.[/QUOTE] Humanity master race, fuck the chicken scum. But honestly read the article, they are essentially brain-dead.
I'll stick to Free Range... Its disturbing how many people think that restricting the full capability of a creatures brain is perfectly fine. We should be eliminating battery farms, not thinking of ways to make the battery farms more bearable fro the chickens by removing parts of their brain. What the fuck.
[QUOTE=Sickle;34723231][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_suffering_from_undernourishment"]Leave.[/URL] [editline]16th February 2012[/editline] Humanity master race, fuck the chicken scum. But honestly read the article, they are essentially brain-dead.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter, because we all the children of the sun. Sun light supports all life through photosynthesis. Who the children of the sun? We the children of the sun. When it comes to evolution, Humanity just begun. Yo if it wasn't for our star the sun, there would be no life, and no us. Why don't we unite as one? Is it too hard to believe that we are children of the sun?
Chickens are going to be the first hooked into the matrix.
[QUOTE=Harry3;34723250]I'll stick to Free Range... Its disturbing how many people think that restricting the full capability of a creatures brain is perfectly fine. We should be eliminating battery farms, not thinking of ways to make the battery farms more bearable fro the chickens by removing parts of their brain. What the fuck.[/QUOTE] You don't get it. Chickens/dairy cows/pigs aren't "free ranged". Many farmers set up operations where the animals grow up in the dark, are put on a conveyor belt, and slaughtered. Take a glance at "Meet your meat" on YouTube.
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;34723211]This is a bit creepy but I'm totally okay with this. As BANNED USER said, it does seem like a better alternative to the massive barns crammed full of chickens[/QUOTE] Or, you know, we can calm the fuck down on massive condensed farming and favor ways of producing food that doesn't turn meat into shit. In France, we actually produce too much of a lot of things because of the usual "make more and more shit than necessary" policy, including meat and a lot of cereals. It's the remnants of a post-WW2 policy that consisted in making the country as independent as possible but it doesn't make much sense now, and all the extra food is sent to underdeveloped countries. It might sound like a good thing, but the problem is that the food sent there is cheaper that the food sold on site (because the entire food market is held by a bunch of business men at the stock market), which ruins the local economy of a lot of underdeveloped countries and just fuck them up more than usual. So yeah, the whole "we need to produce more in smaller places" thing is just bullshit. I can't comprehend how inhumane rich people can become to get to a point where they don't even understand the basics of human life, they just do stuff that are completely out of this world just so they get slightly more money.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34723975]Or, you know, we can calm the fuck down on massive condensed farming and favor ways of producing food that doesn't turn meat into shit.[/QUOTE] What you're asking for is completely unrealistic. How do you suggest the current production methods be changed? The market isn't going to reach for such a solution unless it's also equally economically viable. The neat thing about the improvements in the OP is that it's actually the next obvious step for the current poultry industry, there is potentially no inertia in moving the industry in that direction. Most people in this thread have expressed their disgust with the current prevalent treatment, but that's really not the point. All this potentially does is slightly improve the state of affairs for factory chickens, and any improvement is welcome even if it's not a solution to the actual problem.
Natural chicken farming is hard as shit. My grandma owns a small chicken farm with about 30 chickens and it's really tiring and sometimes you even question if it's worth it. The meat is actually quite tender and chickens are skinnier. Probably because they're egg chickens but no one would even bother if they were pure meat ones. They eat A LOT of food. To provide them with food you either need to grow your own which takes even more effort or buy which costs so much more than a store chicken. I personally don't see the advantage of personal farming as cooked chicken legs from a store to me taste quite good still.
[QUOTE=jA_cOp;34724168]What you're asking for is completely unrealistic. How do you suggest the current production methods be changed? The market isn't going to reach for such a solution unless it's also equally economically viable. The neat thing about the improvements in the OP is that it's actually the next obvious step for the current poultry industry, there is potentially no inertia in moving the industry in that direction.[/QUOTE] provide economic incentive/disincentive based on quality of meat [editline]17th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ultra_bright;34713295]That shit cant be good for you.[/QUOTE] it might actually be better in terms of quality than conventional cage/barn systems which should ring alarm bells about the current systems!
THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME! :dance: Morals, logic and happiness aside let's do it or die trying!
[QUOTE=Contag;34725196]provide economic incentive/disincentive based on quality of meat [/QUOTE] Yeah, how though? You have to be careful because if you end up creating an environment where cheap chicken just ends up being produced abroad, you're not really solving the problem, just moving it elsewhere and hurting the local economy at the same time. Personally though, I would love to see legislation attempting to remedy the problem, but for that to happen, I think people need to be informed first. I have a feeling most people don't understand how the cheap chicken they eat is being produced.
You chaps do know that until factory farming was introduced, chicken was barely eaten? In the 1950s, Chicken costed as much as lobster would today. People ate rabbit instead by catching and killing them wherever they could be found. It wasn't until the 1970s when Chicken consumption and production began to kick off. Honestly this idea is a step forwards, this will further industrialise agriculture and weaken the old farming system in the countryside. If you move agriculture into the cities, you will leave land in the countryside to become "wild" again. Furthermore the weaker the people of the countryside get, the weaker conservatives get.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34725586]You chaps do know that until factory farming was introduced, chicken was barely eaten? In the 1950s, Chicken costed as much as lobster would today. People ate rabbit instead by catching and killing them wherever they could be found. It wasn't until the 1970s when Chicken consumption and production began to kick off. Honestly this idea is a step forwards, this will further industrialise agriculture and weaken the old farming system in the countryside. If you move agriculture into the cities, you will leave land in the countryside to become "wild" again. Furthermore the weaker the people of the countryside get, the weaker conservatives get.[/QUOTE]I can't tell, are you saying weaker countryside is good? What the fuck.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34725680]I can't tell, are you saying weaker countryside is good? What the fuck.[/QUOTE] No, I'm saying that less people who live in the countryside is a good thing. Most people who live in the countryside tend to be social conservatives. In an urban environment people tend to be more accepting of social progress.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34726307]No, I'm saying that less people who live in the countryside is a good thing. Most people who live in the countryside tend to be social conservatives. In an urban environment people tend to be more accepting of social progress.[/QUOTE] Too bad housing in the cities are fuckexpensive, and you have less [I]"elbow room"[/I]. Sounds like you just have some bad experiences with retarded people who don't even watch TV.
[QUOTE=Sickle;34723231][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_suffering_from_undernourishment"]Leave.[/URL] [/QUOTE] by "people" I mean people who can afford food. and obviously too much food is going to people who are well-off
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34726307]No, I'm saying that less people who live in the countryside is a good thing. Most people who live in the countryside tend to be social conservatives. In an urban environment people tend to be more accepting of social progress.[/QUOTE] Cities overall are shit to live in. If I didn't have to go to work or school and could have good internet I'd live in a countryside. Just imo.
[QUOTE=Otsegolation;34723198]They're doing the exact same on humans. We're all so thoughtless and brainless, that we don't realize how overpopulated the planet is, and how we're totally out of resources that we're all fucked.[/QUOTE] You do realize that there's plenty of space for our species to fit, right? We could just go underground or we could expand into the seas. Plus, we are in no way even close to being "out of resources", their's still plenty of things we could use that we haven't even found yet. So no, we're not fucked.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34726745]Cities overall are shit to live in. If I didn't have to go to work or school and could have good internet I'd live in a countryside. Just imo.[/QUOTE] I think that depends on what country you're in. Here the cities are fine. [editline]17th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sickle;34723231][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_suffering_from_undernourishment"]Leave.[/URL] [/QUOTE] How about you leave for being wrong while trying to take the moral high ground the primary cause of undernourishment is lack of money, and finger licking good food in the west either way, what you post wasn't relevant at all Are you trying to say that people should eat lots because some people are starving?
[QUOTE=Contag;34727189]I think that depends on what country you're in. Here the cities are fine. [/QUOTE]No one said cities are bad, they're fine. But countryside is finer.
Oh wow, we are getting closer and closer to a Dystopian, overpopulated, industrialized world, straight out of science fiction
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34727265]No one said cities are bad, they're fine. But countryside is finer.[/QUOTE] I can actually see the stars in the sky at night. S'cool.
[QUOTE=Van-man;34727647]I can actually see the stars in the sky at night. S'cool.[/QUOTE]Who gives a shit about stars TAKATAKATAKA
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34727726]Who gives a shit about stars TAKATAKATAKA[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbs0dwRRIA1qawi1qo1_400.jpg[/IMG] :v:
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34726307]No, I'm saying that less people who live in the countryside is a good thing.[/QUOTE] You're an idiot. I'm sorry but just because you think a big city is awesome doesn't mean I want to live there with the thousands of other content complacent idiots. [QUOTE=Sobotnik;34726307]Most people who live in the countryside tend to be social conservatives. In an urban environment people tend to be more accepting of social progress.[/QUOTE] Holy wow if you're not an idiot, you're biased that's sure. So by your logic I should be praising the ingenuity of these British men who found a way to artificially raise something that came from nature naturally. I should also be a Republican or someone with Republican views. Hell lets add in that I'm a hardcore Christian. No. I actually identify as a Communist because I hate the classes of society, though with our current economic system it's inevitable. I don't claim this to be a pinnacle of human ingenuity because it's not. It's taking something from nature and perverting it into a form we can exploit. We exploit chickens for their meat and eggs already, but I also don't want to see a day when the normal chicken has been destroyed thanks to these farms. I'd rather the raising of animals stay traditional as possible, and that the raising of any animal should be for the preservation of the original farm animal and the sustenance of man. No more or less. This isn't preserving an animal in it's form, it's completely changing how it looks and acts just so people have a quicker food source. My belief that land, money, and manpower could easily be the thing that could help with chicken production isn't just a crazy mans idea or anything, it could be done feasibly. Hell, I alone have the land and myself as manpower, I just need money and I could be in the chicken farming business. The state of California as well has so much undeveloped land too it's kinda ridiculous.
Furthermore, with this method, you're loooking at diseases spreading almost instantly among an entire 'crop' of chickens. And they've not always succeeded in catching the new diseases in time, have they? MCD? Swine Flu? Bird Flu?
[QUOTE=archangel125;34727921]Furthermore, with this method, you're loooking at diseases spreading almost instantly among an entire 'crop' of chickens. And they've not always succeeded in catching the new diseases in time, have they? MCD? Swine Flu? Bird Flu?[/QUOTE] It would be harder to tell because they can't do anything for themselves other then be there because their brain is fried. They can't naturally bathe or dust bathe, so they'd require a mechanical apparatus to clean them, or a human overseer to do the same. It'd be easier to raise them naturally because if they got sick, you could actually see them being sick.
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