Iraqi Emergency: Major Bridges shut down, troops in Green Zone

[JumpinJackFlash]

[QUOTE=Kommodore;45653875]Bullshit, early modern and medieval conflict between Sunnia and Shia muslims are incomparable to the ones taking place now. It'd be like calling the 30 Years War sectarian violence.

After that, Ottomanism circumscribed religious identities to their communities, beyond which their broader political identity was irrelevant. Ottoman administrative provinces were bureaucratic and abstract from actual local identity.[/QUOTE]Except the 30 Years War was sectarian violence, at least initially. Also the rise in nationalist movements during and after the Ottoman rule are part of the reason why the Middle East is so fucked up, and then there's the bigger problem: Ibn Abd-al-Wahhab. Even if wahhabism didn't directly create the modern Islamic extremist, it sure as fuck helped to spawn the various ideologies that are universally recognized as Islamic terrorism.

None of this changes anything, supporting an independent Kurdish state has nothing to do with any of this.

[RidingKeys]

A bunch of my friends who just graduated AIT just got letters that their units are on alert and to be prepared for deployment to Iraq...
fuck. gg iraq.

[Gentry]

[QUOTE=RidingKeys;45654121]A bunch of my friends who just graduated AIT just got letters that their units are on alert and to be prepared for deployment to Iraq...
fuck. gg iraq.[/QUOTE]

America and friends are directly responsible for creating the conditions of a failed state in Iraq.

[RidingKeys]

[QUOTE=Gentry;45654148]America and friends are directly responsible for creating the conditions of a failed state in Iraq.[/QUOTE]

I don't disagree im just upset that my friends have to go over there :(

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or rather, might have to go over there

[EmperorScorpious]

[QUOTE=Kommodore;45653609]It would essentially be validating the fundamental reasons for conflict in the Middle East and repeating the very same failures of colonialism that started this all by assigning political meaning to one's religious and ethnic identity instead of promoting more sustainable pluralism

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If you give Kurdistan a mandate to form a government, you essentially mandate violence where ethnic and religious divisions are more geographically complex[/QUOTE]

To be fair, it seems to have worked in Europe well enough with splitting borders along ethnic lines.

[ConcreteBath]

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;45657392]To be fair, it seems to have worked in Europe well enough with splitting borders along ethnic lines.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, at least it'd stem some of the source of the civil wars.