Entire U.S. Senate to go to White House for North Korea briefing - Polidicks

Yeah, I just realized it's being held in the WH and not the usual Senate Floor, which would explain the lack of a stream. Guess we just have to wait until Spicerooni enters the stage?

Feels an awful lot like a forum to try to convince Congress to go to war with North Korea.

[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-senate-idUSKBN17S0B9?il=0[/url] Some kinda update I guess? [quote]As a standoff escalated over the reclusive Asian nation's development of nuclear weapons and long-range ballistic missiles, President Donald Trump invited all 100 members of the Senate to attend a very unusual meeting at the White House with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and Marine General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. While administration officials typically travel to the Capitol to brief lawmakers on national security issues, this time the entire Senate will hop on a bus to the White House where the four top officials will meet them at 3 p.m. EDT (1900 GMT). "I really don't understand what is the president's game plan to get North Korea to change its calculation," Senator Ben Cardin, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters. [B]As for the Senate's field trip to the White House, the veteran lawmaker said, "I've never seen anything like it."[/B][/quote]

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52151781]Not really, Iraq was fairly simple, however Vietnam was anything but a tactical victory, it was a complete disaster against an opponent with 20 years of combat exprience, who managed to succesfully hold their ground against both the French, and the Japanese empires prior ro the US having a go too. Afganistan wasn't a walk in the park either. You guys forget a lot of details when remembering these wars for some reason.[/QUOTE] Americans defeated NVA/Vietcong forces in nearly every engagement they had. You can count the number of times Vietnamese units took ground from Americans [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/05/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-us-never-lost-major-battle-vietn/"]on one hand[/URL]. After the Tet Offensive the Vietcong were practically spent and never engaged in such a large action again. The only reason peace negotiations even began was because LBJ was bombing North Vietnam into the stone age. Even after America withdrew and the North Vietnamese overran Saigon, reunifying the country, they leaned more towards America than the Soviet Union, which was the entire reason we were invested in South Vietnam to begin with (containment of the USSR). The war in Vietnam was a series of tactical victories on the part of the United States, and even though their withdraw from Saigon ultimately led North Vietnamese forces to reunify the country under a Communist banner, the fact that they never became a Soviet foothold in South East Asia means American strategic goals for the war were, in a roundabout, bloody, expensive way that was not intended whatsoever by political or military leaders, accomplished.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52153878]Yeah, I just realized it's being held in the WH and not the usual Senate Floor, which would explain the lack of a stream. Guess we just have to wait until Spicerooni enters the stage?[/QUOTE] super hyped for Spicer to botch the announcement of the first nuclear attack since 1945

Watch trump be the designated survivor and then something happens

[QUOTE=Svinnik;52154114]Watch trump be the designated survivor and then something happens[/QUOTE] better option: have sutherland be that instead

I've tried keeping track of this event but the media in my country isn't reporting much on this. Should we actually be afraid that Trump would use this event as the start of a war with North Korra?

At this point it's doubtful the NK situation will be solved without violence. There will be a point where war with the NK will be inevitable, but we might not be there yet.

In all honesty, this should have been solved 50+ years ago when we were dealing with this before.

From what I can tell, briefing the entire senate is not uncommon. but is usually done at the Capitol and not by so many top-level defense officials. Moving the briefing to the White House might just be a first-year-of-business-school-level tactic of having discussions happen on your turf for a psychological advantage, but then the question would be: what decision on North Korea would Trump feel is important enough to need an advantage on?

[QUOTE=Jackpody;52154146]I've tried keeping track of this event but the media in my country isn't reporting much on this. Should we actually be afraid that Trump would use this event as the start of a war with North Korra?[/QUOTE] this is such an unusual event and as others have said having a lot of top level defense advisors there makes it highly likely the senate is getting briefed on war

[QUOTE=Revenge282;52154177]In all honesty, this should have been solved 50+ years ago when we were dealing with this before.[/QUOTE] It's not been seriously considered for over 50 years since for most of that time, China has been seen as backing NK, and only got fed up with them recently. Any operation against NK before that and it could be seen as possibly provoking China, and almost certainly causing another Korean War where you're dealing with fanatic NKs and the massive overwhelming glut of China's ground forces. Plus that and the outcome of the bloody fighting that led to pretty much a constant stalemate after china got involved in the Korean War led to it being somewhere nobody in the US wanted to go back to quickly.

Update: [url]http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/26/trump-aims-to-pressure-north-korea-through-tighter-sanctions-and-diplomacy.html[/url] [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] I can only think NK will refuse to back down and tensions rise even further [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] I dont know if thats worthy of a new thread but someone else is welcome to make one because I'm not going to

[QUOTE=Crooky14;52154276]Update: [url]http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/26/trump-aims-to-pressure-north-korea-through-tighter-sanctions-and-diplomacy.html[/url] [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] I can only think NK will refuse to back down and tensions rise even further [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] I dont know if thats worthy of a new thread but someone else is welcome to make one because I'm not going to[/QUOTE] Seriously how do we even put more sanctions on NK? Is there a point where we literally could not have tighter sanctions on them and can just harshen our tone towards them?

[quote]Trump has called for a review of U.S. policy toward North Korea.[/quote] So he had the entire U.S senate come to the white house just to tell them that? A tweet would honestly be more appropriate.

[QUOTE=Crooky14;52154276]Update: [url]http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/26/trump-aims-to-pressure-north-korea-through-tighter-sanctions-and-diplomacy.html[/url] [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] I can only think NK will refuse to back down and tensions rise even further [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] I dont know if thats worthy of a new thread but someone else is welcome to make one because I'm not going to[/QUOTE] I'm glad that he's at least not immediately jumping to a "Bomb everything!" approach, and seeing the word "diplomacy" was relieving. Won't hold my breath, obviously, but today certainly could've gone worse.

[media]https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/857339381920796672[/media] So, looks like we can rest easier for now at least.

it still seems incredibly odd to hold a meeting discussing increasing diplomatic pressure and sanctions in the white house attended by top defense officials

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52154407]it still seems incredibly odd to hold a meeting discussing increasing diplomatic pressure and sanctions in the white house attended by top defense officials[/QUOTE] Might've been more about optics and sending a message to North Korea.

Either that or too many people were against it and the plan fell through. [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] Plus with that second carrier yet to arrive on Korea, it's too early to pull any kind of military action off either way.

[QUOTE=Portugalotaku;52154430]Either that or too many people were against it and the plan fell through. [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] Plus with that second carrier yet to arrive on Korea, it's too early to pull any kind of military action off either way.[/QUOTE] Oooor they all agreed to it and trump will launch a surprise attack.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;52154478]Oooor they all agreed to it and trump will launch a surprise attack.[/QUOTE] could be waiting for another NK missile test , which they highly likely will do in retaliation to increased sanctions, to use as an excuse to attack

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;52154478]Oooor they all agreed to it and trump will launch a surprise attack.[/QUOTE] This, why would they come out and say "Alright yea we're onboard for an NK strike, so we're gonna get working on that. They won't know what hit em"

It's a stupid fucking powerplay by "president" Trump. He runs his administration like a reality show and knows that this North Korea shit sells (look at CNN pretending like WW3 is gonna happen), and so he knows doing stupid shit like this gets him attention. Can't wait to see this traitor impeached

[QUOTE=proboardslol;52154550]It's a stupid fucking powerplay by "president" Trump. He runs his administration like a reality show and knows that this North Korea shit sells (look at CNN pretending like WW3 is gonna happen), and so he knows doing stupid shit like this gets him attention. Can't wait to see this traitor impeached[/QUOTE] Posturing should definetly be impeachable, can you calm the fuck down? We don't even fully understand what happened at the briefing

[QUOTE=Claxx;52154554]Posturing should definetly be impeachable, can you calm the fuck down? We don't even fully understand what happened at the briefing[/QUOTE] I think he should be impeached for attempting to turn the USA into a Russian satellite state, not for his TLC-grade publicity stunts

[QUOTE=proboardslol;52154565]I think he should be impeached for attempting to turn the USA into a Russian satellite state, not for his TLC-grade publicity stunts[/QUOTE] he isn't doing a good job at that so far imo

[QUOTE=proboardslol;52154565]I think he should be impeached for attempting to turn the USA into a Russian satellite state, not for his TLC-grade publicity stunts[/QUOTE] afer denying russian drilling ops & bombing russia's allies he isnt very good at turning us into a russian satellite state

Well, I bet the NKs were shitting their pants when they heard the news of Trump calling the senate to the white house. Only for them all to come out and say nothing really eventful came out of it. Oh wait, that wasn't just NK that was the whole world. Seems like another troll on Trump's part lol.