World Cup hosts Qatar sets dress code for tourists - Polidicks

[QUOTE=uzikus;44941735]They don't respect our culture, why should we respect theirs?[/QUOTE] I'm sure there's a big problem with Qatari immigrants in Poland, eh? Such a problem [url=http://peoplemov.in/#f_QA]this doesn't even have any records of Qatar to Poland immigration[/url]

Either dress like a Dementor or get stoned. Simple.

[QUOTE=chaz13;44941922]That's your opinion of normal. It's completely subjective.[/QUOTE] No it isn't, in most of the world displays of affection are not demonised. Being a part of X culture doesn't give you some kind of license to practice or uphold customs which are objectively unhealthy. As I understand it arabic countries have retained the most backward, religiously dominated society in the world. Things like the systematic oppression of women are "normal" in a lot of places, but you can't condone it just because it's tradition somewhere.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942126]You're right, ethnocentrism is fucking awesome. Let's bring civilization to these savages.[/QUOTE] Sorry can't hear you over life sentences being handed out to critics of the government and gay men being arrested. Was it something about how all cultures are correct and we can't judge others?

[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44942231]No it isn't, in most of the world displays of affection are not demonised. Being a part of X culture doesn't give you some kind of license to practice or uphold customs which are objectively unhealthy. As I understand it arabic countries have retained the most backward, religiously dominated society in the world. Things like the systematic oppression of women are "normal" in a lot of places, but you can't condone it just because it's tradition somewhere.[/QUOTE] You do realize the irony in trying to force people to not force people to do things, right?

Even if this dress code wasn't backed up by institutionalized oppression of women it's still really stupid to expect people to dress from knees to shoulders in 45°C WEATHER

While I agree that woman and LGBT people shouldn't be killed or demonized, I think it's a little hysterical to bring that up in this situation...

[QUOTE=niel12_5D;44942311]While I agree that woman and LGBT people shouldn't be killed or demonized, I think it's a little hysterical to bring that up in this situation...[/QUOTE] It's an argument about "respecting culture". It's perfectly reasonable to bring this up rather than just ignoring the downside of considering every culture correct.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942266]You do realize the irony in trying to force people to not force people to do things, right?[/QUOTE] Erm no, I don't, that just sounds like stupid hyperbole to me? I wasn't aware that anybody was trying to suppress muslim culture in the first place Certainly sounds like a good idea though frankly

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44942273]Even if this dress code wasn't backed up by institutionalized oppression of women it's still really stupid to expect people to dress from knees to shoulders in 45°C WEATHER[/QUOTE] Actually like mentioned before, you're better off wearing something that covers you which is thin, that breaths with light colors unless you enjoy sunburns.

[QUOTE=Thlis;44942337]It's an argument about "respecting culture". It's perfectly reasonable to bring this up rather than just ignoring the downside of considering every culture correct.[/QUOTE] It's actually almost completely the opposite of reasonable. The group of people saying you might want to cover up your body with clothing because it's really hot and a lot of people in that culture see that as the norm are not the same people who say you should stone homosexuals and oppress women. Once again, if you don't cover up your body in that heat you're gonna get serious health problems. They haven't covered themselves up historically because of some hatred for woman-kind or humanity. Get real, people.

[QUOTE=niel12_5D;44942363]It's actually almost completely the opposite of reasonable. The group of people saying you might want to cover up your body with clothing because it's really hot and a lot of people in that culture see that as the norm are not the same people who say you should stone homosexuals and oppress women. Once again, if you don't cover up your body in that heat you're gonna get serious health problems. They haven't covered themselves up historically because of some hatred for woman-kind or humanity. [B]Get real, people.[/B][/QUOTE] Really? Your going to say get real when you can't even bother to look at the picture they distributed which clearly says [quote]REFLECT YOUR RESPECT, help us preserve Qatar's culture and values[/quote] Yeah, Get real nielk12_5D.

seems a bit patronising to say the least but i don't think they're entirely in the wrong by suggesting that people wear light clothing rather than none at all under the guise of protecting modesty, though? idk.

[QUOTE=Crumpet;44940454] how is this gonna be enforced?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;f0nYKgkFvMM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nYKgkFvMM[/video]

[QUOTE=lapsus_;44940961]I don't find this to be too unreasonable. You can't enter, say, the holy see/vatican/various cathedrals in a miniskirt or shorts either, yet people who come over happily comply, and there's 40°c over here too, during summer. [editline]29th May 2014[/editline] You'll manage[/QUOTE] There's a little bit of a difference between privately owned Church property and an entire country.

[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;44942349]Erm no, I don't, that just sounds like stupid hyperbole to me? I wasn't aware that anybody was trying to suppress muslim culture in the first place Certainly sounds like a good idea though frankly[/QUOTE] Why do you have the right to tell them what to do? In what way is your culture objectively better than theirs? How would you feel if for example, the people of the Gebusi tribe discovered the internet and came on here and told you you were inferior to them because you don't cum in little boys mouths to allow them to have children in the future? Why do you believe that what you do is right and what other people do is wrong?

[QUOTE=Thlis;44942386]Really? Your going to say get real when you can't even bother to look at the picture they distributed which clearly says Yeah, Get real nielk12_5D.[/QUOTE] Thank you for addressing what I said and not resorting to a really lame comeback.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942438]Why do you have the right to tell them what to do? In what way is your culture objectively better than theirs? How would you feel if for example, the people of the Gebusi tribe discovered the internet and came on here and told you you were inferior to them [i]because you don't cum in little boys mouths to allow them to have children in the future?[/i] Why do you believe that what you do is right and what other people do is wrong?[/QUOTE] What the heck.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;44941793]I don't think events like the Olympics or World Cup should be held in places where visitors/tourists face unreasonable danger through otherwise normal behaviour, such as "wearing clothes" or "kissing".[/QUOTE] Definitely, it's quite ironic that international events that promote unity and inclusion are being held in countries that maintain quite divisive cultures.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;44942208]I'm sure there's a big problem with Qatari immigrants in Poland, eh? Such a problem [url=http://peoplemov.in/#f_QA]this doesn't even have any records of Qatar to Poland immigration[/url][/QUOTE] Why does Russia have about as many immigrants as it does emigrants?

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;44942485]What the heck.[/QUOTE] It's fucking weird but they always believed that you can't make your own sperm so it has to be given to you.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942504]It's fucking weird but they always believed that you can't make your own sperm so it has to be given to you.[/QUOTE] If the Gebusi tribe was hosting the World Cup, would they be forcing males who came with their boys to cum in their mouth? If not, I don't see how that comparison to Qatar really works.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44942534]If the Gebusi tribe was hosting the World Cup, would they be forcing males who came with their boys to cum in their mouth? If not, I don't see how that comparison to Qatar really works.[/QUOTE] It's just an example to point out to him how believing that what he does is right and what other people do is wrong is fucking stupid, because nobody's culture is right or wrong they just are what they are, and telling people in other countries that they're inferior to you is arrogant as hell.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942564]It's just an example to point out to him how believing that what he does is right and what other people do is wrong is fucking stupid,[B] because nobody's culture is right or wrong they just are what they are,[/B] and telling people in other countries that they're inferior to you is arrogant as hell.[/QUOTE] BS, would you say the same about a culture that supports genocide?

[QUOTE=Thlis;44942582]BS, would you say the same about a culture that supports genocide?[/QUOTE] Committing genocide is part of nobody's culture. In fact, quite the opposite, genocide is the result of assuming your culture is better than another culture to the point where you decide to kill them.

[QUOTE=Thlis;44942582]BS, would you say the same about a culture that supports genocide?[/QUOTE] Once again pointing out how unreasonable this is, genocide has zero to do with what he is talking about. [editline]29th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942598]Committing genocide is part of nobody's culture. In fact, quite the opposite, genocide is the result of assuming your culture is better than another culture to the point where you decide to kill them.[/QUOTE] What about a culture that supports Hitler!!!

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942598]Committing genocide is part of nobody's culture. In fact, quite the opposite, genocide is the result of assuming your culture is better than another culture to the point where you decide to kill them.[/QUOTE] I have a better example, what about a culture that thinks left handed people should be put to death? Do you think that culture is on equal footing as one that doesn't think left handed people should be put to death?

[QUOTE=Thlis;44942645]I have a better example, what about a culture that thinks left handed people should be put to death? Do you think that culture is on equal footing as one that doesn't think left handed people should be put to death?[/QUOTE] Personally, I think that culture's making a mistake, but to assume ours is objectively better than theirs because of that is naive. In America we put people to death constantly, and countries like yours don't, that's fine for both of us. Personally, I would like to see that stop, but that's OK because it's my country, and I can say what I want about my culture. If the people of Qatar want to wear different clothes, that's up to them, but they're happy with things the way they are, so who are you to judge?

[QUOTE=Thlis;44942645]I have a better example, what about a culture that thinks left handed people should be put to death? Do you think that culture is on equal footing as one that doesn't think left handed people should be put to death?[/QUOTE] Crazy idea but perhaps it's possible to think that things like clothing and rites of passage are just fine as cultural ideals while genocide and gauchecide aren't.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44942655]Personally, I think that culture's making a mistake, but to assume ours is objectively better than theirs because of that is naive.[/QUOTE] Do you have a concept of humanity? "Well I can't say whether or not this culture is better or worse", meanwhile someone's getting killed for something they were born with.