Game developers prevented from monetizing their own game's footage due to Youtube's new copyright sy
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[QUOTE=Helix Snake;43258877]He's right, it's not censorship, it's theft. If someone is monetizing your video and stealing the ad revenue for something they don't have the rights to, it's straight up theft. Not even questionably theft, like pirating, but straight up, unambiguous stealing.[/QUOTE]
Wait what
This isn't contentID. This is monetization review.
YT isn't making anything off of it until it's monetized.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43261488](despite all this nonsense, Youtube is hella functional)[/QUOTE]
I would agree with you around two years ago, but now I'd just point and laugh at the naive fool.
[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43261920]I would agree with you around two years ago, but now I'd just point and laugh at the naive fool.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how Youtube isn't functional. I can find videos, I can watch videos, it responds to my internet connection being bipolar as fuck speed wise, I can upload videos, I can comment on videos (with varying levels of success if it's mostly legacy comments), I can rate videos, I can share videos.
Youtube seems pretty fucking functional to me. More functional than two years ago, it's a shit ton more stable. Yeah they keep changing the layout, yeah the comments are now powered by G+ (which hasn't actually caused as many problems as people keep saying it has from what I've seen), yeah you account is now tied to a G+ profile/ page, yeah monetisation is more of a cock now. But that doesn't stop Youtube from doing what it was intended to do, provide video content.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43254493]redtube[/QUOTE]
I didn't know there was an alternative to this.
You.... tube..?
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43259496]But let's say people like Sessler or TB put out a review. And it completely rips the piss of the game. Well that company can just go Hey, Copyrights. Flag. And you get to wait 30 days, and possibly another 30 days if they say Nope, reinstated, bitch. If they really want to screw you they can, without repercussions, they can just flag your shit. The only thing you can really do to fight it is threaten to sue them which they might take you up on that offer, or might not. Censorship disguised as copyright bullshit
Meanwhile, your monetized review that's pulling in views is giving THEM the money while the claim is being fought, rather than you, even though you made the video.
If I were to go to the highway, and record video of cars passing by, is Honda and Ford and Nissan going to file a claim? Why couldn't they if gaming videos can be flagged?
Luckily it isn't the gaming devs that are doing it, but an automated out dated bot, basically. But there are people behind the scenes that review each case[/QUOTE]
People have tried to do that and it hasn't worked out. Theirs nothing stopping them from uploading there videos in a non monetized fashion. This is simply an issue of people making money using content they don't own the rights too which makes Youtube itchy because it opens the door for a massive lawsuit and potential shutdown. No attempt as suppressing free speech is being made here. But people acting like emotionally charged 14 year old's want to believe otherwise.
Wether you want to believe they own all the content or not is irevlavant. The law dosen't recognize this for licensed works such as games.
I still believe that how they went about this was pretty poor however simply because lots of big companies even EA want people to monetize videos because publicity.
[QUOTE=J!NX;43259461]V GOLD V
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because suddenly having your main source of income cut off for a single quote from a movie you saw left in a video is completely fair and just
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43261488]It wouldn't be hard for them to slap ads in videos and just not give the creator money. Exactly the same way almost every "alternative" site does this.
As for a "new Youtube" happening. Not happening. If you want something that is both as big as Youtube, and as functional (despite all this nonsense, Youtube is hella functional), you're living in a dream world. The capital required to get something of this scale running properly means there are zero start-ups capable of doing it, existing companies by and large know not to start hundreds of projects up (unlike Google) as it is just massively expensive and hard to manage.
The current alternatives suck not only because Youtube is so damn big, but also because it's so expensive to run something like that.[/QUOTE]
I've not had THAT many issues with the changes personally
but this is bullshit
[QUOTE=commandhat;43263516]because suddenly having your main source of income cut off for a single quote from a movie you saw left in a video is completely fair and just[/QUOTE]
you hit disagree with that post but I was making fun of those quotes
I was trying to say that this is stupid
also, yeah, a lot of people are being screwed unjustly
LPs and other game related videos bring tons of people to Youtube regularly, they generate views which means more ad time, which means more money.
LPs and other game related videos take a fuckton of time to prepare. Especially when produced on the scale some these mid to big level channels work.
I still don't understand why people don't consider this to be a proper full time job? Why does it seem so stupid, they are expending time and energy to put together something and that time should generate income.
It's my understanding (which may be dead wrong) that the whole "making money off Let's Play type videos" was an opportunistic money grab to begin with.
Some folks figured out how to generate a realistic bit of money off of it, taking advantage of YouTube as a free resource in the process.
I'm surprised they are just getting restrictive instead of trying to jam their hand into the cash grab as well.
Whether they eventually do or not doesn't matter though, as the pioneer days of being a self employed youtube video star seem to be done. To maintain that status will involve more people that want some of that sweet ad revenue for themselves. Middle men.
Seems like perfectly normal capitalism to me. (but I may be dead wrong)
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;43258381]youtube is really starting to get on my fucking nerves now. why does everything successful have to deteriorate into utter shit[/QUOTE]
"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. "
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Youtubes time has come
[QUOTE=Fetret;43263950]LPs and other game related videos bring tons of people to Youtube regularly, they generate views which means more ad time, which means more money.
LPs and other game related videos take a fuckton of time to prepare. Especially when produced on the scale some these mid to big level channels work.
I still don't understand why people don't consider this to be a proper full time job? Why does it seem so stupid, they are expending time and energy to put together something and that time should generate income.[/QUOTE]Real or not, it is a very unstable job and you should realize that. YT people know that but now that it is actually affecting them they do not want to accept it. Reasonable, but making demands is not the way to deal with it.
[QUOTE=areolop;43259635]woah woah woah. I never said they [I]should[/I] scrap it or that its a good idea to, but rather pointing out that its their site and they can do what the want with it.. If they truly wanted to take it out, they could.
Thats the point im making.[/QUOTE]
yeah and mcdonalds could decide to close down tomorrow and leave millions of people without jobs but that'd still be shitty wouldn't it?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43265254]Real or not, it is a very unstable job and you should realize that. YT people know that but now that it is actually affecting them they do not want to accept it. Reasonable, but making demands is not the way to deal with it.[/QUOTE]
"they've had the possibility of losing their jobs due to stupid unjust bullshit, so now that that's happened they have no right to complain"
what the fuck are you posting
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43265254]Real or not, it is a very unstable job and you should realize that. YT people know that but now that it is actually affecting them they do not want to accept it. Reasonable, but making demands is not the way to deal with it.[/QUOTE]
There was absolutely nothing to suggest it was an unstable job, if anything it looked very promising with the amount of money the big creators were making. Youtube purposefully cultivated that image to get more creators and now is pulling the rug from under them.
There is only so many hours in a day you can work on something and it is only fair to request to be fairly paid for your time.
The video game industry is becoming as bad as the music industry, great.
[QUOTE=I AM THE LAW;43288398]The video game industry is becoming as bad as the music industry, great.[/QUOTE]
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