Trump Bringing One of Bill Clinton's Mistresses to the Front Row of the Debates - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51100440]How is Clinton inviting a clear critic of Trump the same as Trump dredging up nonsense about Bill Clinton's alleged adultery?[/QUOTE] They're both meaningless and ineffectual in the context of the debate.. Both guests were invited for the sole purpose of discomforting the candidate. You guys have zero sense of humor lol, this is hilarious.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51100465]Nothing will change their mind at this point. The only people still voting for him now are angry sons of bitches who wanna beat down the rest of us for whatever contrived reason currently driving them. Nothing but hate in their veins and malice in their cold, shriveled hearts. They cannot be reasoned with. So fuck them. Fuck all of them. Let them vote for their so-called God Emperor, and let them fucking boil in their own filth when he's inevitably struck down. I'll take great pleasure in helping to make that happen.[/QUOTE] Holy shit this post is just as deluded as what a lot of Trump supporters say.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51100465]Nothing will change their mind at this point. The only people still voting for him now are angry sons of bitches who wanna beat down the rest of us for whatever contrived reason currently driving them. Nothing but hate in their veins and malice in their cold, shriveled hearts. They cannot be reasoned with. So fuck them. Fuck all of them. Let them vote for their so-called God Emperor, and let them fucking boil in their own filth when he's inevitably struck down. I'll take great pleasure in helping to make that happen.[/QUOTE] Imagine being this dense and entrenched in your own position that you actually think [I]everyone[/I] who votes for the guy is hateful and unreasonable. Come back down to reality champ.

[QUOTE=Omesh;51100448]It's the same intent to unnerve. I'm not meaning that it's not ridiculous on both sides.[/QUOTE] It's ridiculous on one side, bringing people who are critical of a candidate's policies into a debate is quite reasonable. But as other posters have stated, dredging up ad hominem stuff about the husband of the candidate's (not even the candidate themselves) alleged adultery is irelevant, petty and moreover completely ineffectual because I doubt Hillary, her supporters or anyone but Trump's supporters care at this point.

[QUOTE=srobins;51100471]They're both meaningless and ineffectual in the context of the debate.. Both guests were invited for the sole purpose of discomforting the candidate. You guys have zero sense of humor lol, this is hilarious.[/QUOTE] Pardon me if I don't find both of the candidates in this election acting like children particularly funny. Especially when I stand to lose a lot if things go sour.

[QUOTE=srobins;51100474]Imagine being this dense and entrenched in your own position that you actually think [I]everyone[/I] who votes for the guy is hateful and unreasonable. Come back down to reality champ.[/QUOTE] Why do we continue to give them the benefit of the doubt? We've been at this for close to a year now, if I recall, and nothing has changed. Trump continues to be a bloviating, perpetually lying jackass with no tact, wit, or experience, and his supporters continue to eat that shit up because they're "stickin' it to the libs" or what the fuck ever. They've made their case, it's very clear what they're aiming for, and it will be a disaster if we let it happen.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51100547]Why do we continue to give them the benefit of the doubt? We've been at this for close to a year now, if I recall, and nothing has changed. Trump continues to be a bloviating, perpetually lying jackass with no tact, wit, or experience, and his supporters continue to eat that shit up because they're "stickin' it to the libs" or what the fuck ever. They've made their case, it's very clear what they're aiming for, and it will be a disaster if we let it happen.[/QUOTE] And alienating Trump supporters prevents this disaster how exactly?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51100553]And alienating Trump supporters prevents this disaster how exactly?[/QUOTE] They alienated themselves when they aligned with the very avatar of everything wrong with humanity.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51100568]They alienated themselves when they aligned with the very avatar of everything wrong with humanity.[/QUOTE] :ok:. Now actually respond to what I asked.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51100572]:ok:. Now actually respond to what I asked.[/QUOTE] What is there left to alienate now? We prevent this disaster by going out to vote in fucking droves instead of apathetically staying home and letting our country burn. We outnumber them. If we actually put the fucking effort in, we will win this.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51100580]What is there left to alienate now? We prevent this disaster by going out to vote in fucking droves instead of apathetically staying home and letting our country burn. We outnumber them. If we actually put the fucking effort in, we will win this.[/QUOTE] Now is most certainly not the time to get cocky. Any person we can convince to vote for Hillary (a lot of Trump supporters are still on the fence) is essentially 2 votes for Hillary (Trump loses 1, Hillary gains 1) meaning that funnily enough Trump-converts are actually twice as effective as people who already supported hillary. Denying these potential voters to Hillary due to personal dislike and is dumb. If you want to insure a Hillary victory then try to convince people instead of alienating them.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51100414]The time for kid gloves has long passed. If people are still dead set on burning the country down, I will treat them with endless fucking scorn. They had their chance, and they blew it spectacularly.[/QUOTE] This makes you exactly the same as Trump supporters.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51100667]This makes you exactly the same as Trump supporters.[/QUOTE] I dont attack people who vote Clinton. I just want Trump to win.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51100687]I dont attack people who vote Clinton. I just want Trump to win.[/QUOTE] You have to admit that an overwhelmingly large portion of Trump supporters attack Clinton supporters.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51100687]I dont attack people who vote Clinton. I just want Trump to win.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately you're the exception rather than the rule around these parts.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51100465]Nothing will change their mind at this point. The only people still voting for him now are angry sons of bitches who wanna beat down the rest of us for whatever contrived reason currently driving them. Nothing but hate in their veins and malice in their cold, shriveled hearts. They cannot be reasoned with. So fuck them. Fuck all of them. Let them vote for their so-called God Emperor, and let them fucking boil in their own filth when he's inevitably struck down. I'll take great pleasure in helping to make that happen.[/QUOTE] Calm down there, don't go popping a brain vessel over some orangutan running for office.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51100713]Calm down there, don't go popping a brain vessel over some orangutan running for office.[/QUOTE] It's not the fact that he's running, it's the fact that he has ANY chance of winning. This is fucking madness.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51100713]Calm down there, don't go popping a brain vessel over some orangutan running for office.[/QUOTE] The thing that's so concerning to me is how many are voting for trump Like I have literally never seen a sound policy put forth by the man and people still support him. Nothing he has ever put forward makes sense, and he has SO MUCH SUPPORT. How can that be?

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51100602]I swear I'll pay for a comission of Mercy kissing Lucario if this feud continues[/QUOTE] I don't even play Overwatch that is just my reaction when I read SH [editline]24th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51100687]I dont attack people who vote Clinton. I just want Trump to win.[/QUOTE] Same fam, but not that last bit.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51100693]You have to admit that an overwhelmingly large portion of Trump supporters attack Clinton supporters.[/QUOTE] No we don't? The vast majority of trump "supporters (read voters)" don't actually care that much for trump as a candidate, we're just convinced that another Clinton administration will be effectively worse in the long run because she has the connections to actually push the damaging legislation she wants, I'm optimistic in that I think the vast majority of trumps proposals will either get straight up shot down or watered down to the point that they're useless. He can't actually propose legislation anyways, that's the job of the legislative branch, not the executive, and the vast majority of Congressmen hate trump's guts. Most of us don't bother defending trump because he's not worth defending, we (or at least I) just think that a Clinton presidency will be effectively worse.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;51100795]No we don't? The vast majority of trump "supporters (read voters)" don't actually care that much for trump as a candidate, we're just convinced that another Clinton administration will be effectively worse in the long run because she has the connections to actually push the damaging legislation she wants, I'm optimistic in that I think the vast majority of trumps proposals will either get straight up shot down or watered down to the point that they're useless. He can't actually propose legislation anyways, that's the job of the legislative branch, not the executive, and the vast majority of Congressmen hate trump's guts. Most of us don't bother defending trump because he's not worth defending, we (or at least I) just think that a Clinton presidency will be effectively worse.[/QUOTE] So you're going to vote for him inspite of his policies and how he acts? Despite the fact that Clinton's policies are thought to be much better? Are you admitting you're voting against Clinton... because she's Clinton?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51100693]You have to admit that an overwhelmingly large portion of Trump supporters attack Clinton supporters.[/QUOTE] I mostly lurk around these forums, but I feel obligated to come out for a change and give my voice on the subject. While I've seen plenty of evidence of Bernie and Clinton supporters attacking Trump supporters (Both verbally and physically on video), I have never actually seen any evidence of an instance where a Trump supporter expresses similar conduct towards Clinton supporters. If you could, I'd really like to see such evidence to the contrary so it supports your statement. Edit: In this case by the way, I'm speaking in regard to real life scenarios. Flaming posts on the internet go hand in hand from both sides of the aisle.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51100801]So you're going to vote for him inspite of his policies and how he acts? Despite the fact that Clinton's policies are thought to be much better? Are you admitting you're voting against Clinton... because she's Clinton?[/QUOTE] Yes? Because Hillary does bad things regardless of what she says? I've been clear on this stance for nearly a year now, I don't want Hillary in the Oval Office. I'll probably end up voting Johnson anyways, but that depends on if the polling in my state is close or not, if it's like a 10%+ lead for clinton (Which it likely will be) I'll vote for Johnson instead.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;51100816]Yes? Because Hillary does bad things regardless of what she says? I've been clear on this stance for nearly a year now, I don't want Hillary in the Oval Office. I'll probably end up voting Johnson anyways, but that depends on if the polling in my state is close or not, if it's like a 10%+ lead for clinton (Which it likely will be) I'll vote for Johnson instead.[/QUOTE] his tax proposals would be enough to make me stay clear from him. then you add on the rest of his bullshit.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51100826]his tax proposals would be enough to make me stay clear from him. then you add on the rest of his bullshit.[/QUOTE] I genuinely don't believe he'll manage to get congress to approve of something that self-destructive though, and that kind of stuff has to go through congress. I don't care about or believe anything either of the candidates actually say, they both lie through their teeth, My opinion is based on what I believe they can actually accomplish. edit: Again, I'm not here to have this debate, they're both shit candidates, I'm just pointing out that it's ridiculous to state that the majority of Trump supporters attack Clinton supporters, and vice versa for that matter.

[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51100739]The thing that's so concerning to me is how many are voting for trump Like I have literally never seen a sound policy put forth by the man and people still support him. Nothing he has ever put forward makes sense, and he has SO MUCH SUPPORT. How can that be?[/QUOTE] Because he is running on the Republican ticket and GOP voters are the most loyal imaginable, regardless of whatever it is you say they'll back you.

[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51100739]The thing that's so concerning to me is how many are voting for trump Like I have literally never seen a sound policy put forth by the man and people still support him. Nothing he has ever put forward makes sense, and he has SO MUCH SUPPORT. How can that be?[/QUOTE] If you're looking for an answer and not just emoting your understandable outrage (in which case, "I know right tbh fam"), here is an article about interviewing a bunch of Donald Trump supporters and it highlights the main reasons people vote for him. [url]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/donald-trump-voters/401408/[/url] Political Correctness and the 'SJWs': [QUOTE]I do not believe that I am a racist, sexist, homophobic, or any other negative label that has been affixed to Trump supports. Rather, I feel that political correctness has run amok in this country, and we now live in a society where every blogger and Twitter user is searching for the slightest offense so they can try to ruin another human (famous, or not). The average person is afraid of expressing any controversial opinion in a public forum for fear of being "exposed," made viral, and ruined, personally and/or professionally. It is heartening to see someone as confident and impervious to criticism as Trump standing up to this ever-present mob…and winning! People tend to support the underdog. Most media outlets have attacked Trump with so much vitriol that they have turned him into a sympathetic figure.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Trump hasn’t elaborated much on any practical policy endeavors he would pursue. However, I think the bulk of his appeal comes through his defiance of the prevailing culture of political correctness among the media and academia. Although a seemingly minor issue relative to the economy or foreign policy, political correctness ignites conservative blogs and social media more than anything else. Beyond speech codes, “trigger warnings,” or Twitter outrage mobs, the preeminence of political correctness among the culture class indicates a momentous shift away from formerly prominent middle-class cultural values and towards something entirely different. Even if Donald Trump were to accomplish little in his presidency, I think there is a hope that were he president, he could in some way alter that prevailing Washington/media culture and set a new cultural tone. Many would probably question why, of all people, a decadent, rude, and pompous billionaire should be trusted to meddle with American culture? I think it comes down to a perception that America has already drowned in a post-modernist nightmare of moral relativism, from which extreme political correctness and protest culture stem. Trump, on the other hand, is all absolutes. Everything he says, accurate or not, is stated in absolute, definitive terms. His personal morality is clear: He respects people who work hard, are loyal, innovate, and “win,” and he shuns those who don’t meet the criteria. Cruel as it may sound, I think America needs to reenergize these fundamental cultural values before we can ever hope to create a better society.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Speaking from the right, I believe that Trump embodies the frustration and rage of the white middle class. This is his main support base and is an ever shrinking group that no longer feels they have a voice. Politicians pay lip service to the middle class but spend no time helping them. Black lives matter more and illegal immigrants who break the law get a free pass. Evangelical Christians in this country no longer feel that they have the right to religious freedom and have watched what they perceive as a sacred institution in marriage gutted. All the while, politicians they voted for to represent them just plain don't. Now enter Trump. This is a guy who isn't afraid to abuse the abuser. He has and will continue to humiliate the establishment politicians who try to stand up to him by exposing them for who they are. He will lash out at reporters and media crudely and without tact simply because he can. His supporters feel vindicated when he attacks those people who have misled them, a small satisfaction when your way of life is fading away. [/QUOTE] Both sides are corrupt, I want to watch the world burn or I believe that he will fix everything by burning everything down with his strong will. [QUOTE]I do, however, believe that our country is in a terrible position and on a terrible track. Trump strikes many of my nerves, but one of the most accurate and dangerously true statements he has made is that "America doesn't win anymore." I agree. The world is rising while America falls. America and its leaders seem resigned to this fact. Rather than stiffening their spine and fighting to make America a prosperous nation for all, they simply talk, go through the motions, throw out a few "red meat" issues to keep their respective bases satisfied, and continue to concede American jobs and economic strength to the rest of the world.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] I would like to offer my reasoning for supporting Trump. I know he would do a pretty terrible job at this point, but I really am at the point of letting the whole thing burn down and explode. Trump would help us get there faster and more efficiently. Like the joker from The Dark Knight, I just want to see the world burn. I guess I am an anarchist in that respect. Once it's all burnt down maybe we can have that constitutional convention we really need to fix things and get this country back on track if it still exists. Happy Friday. If you do decide to publish please include the email signature below. Sent from NSA Monitored Device [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]I will vote for Donald Trump (and to a lesser extent Bernie Sanders) because he represents hope. The two party system has a stranglehold on the voting public. Our choices are limited to way left or way right. There is no party that represents me: a socially responsible, economic conservative. A vote for Trump is the first step in breaking up the two-party system. Two parties to represent 300 million people? Please ... And how much damage can he really do? We still have 2 more branches of government to protect us. The risk is small––and the potential for political change is great. Do I want to make conception the beginning of life? No! Do I want another garbage pile of a bloated bill like the ACA? No! (By the way where is the affordable part of the ACA?) A vote for Trump is my vote against both parties. A Trump win is the Hope & Change that Obama promised but couldn't deliver.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Partly I just want to watch the chaos unfold if a purely ego-driven man were to experience success with a presidential run. I'm a young guy who is immature, a bit antisocial, and with no plans for kids or a wife ever. At some level, I don't really care how things go with America as long as it's fun to watch, like watching a basketball game when your favorite team isn’t playing. I hope this sheds light.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Why trust Trump? The political system has been set up against the public for years. There is no difference between the Republicans and Democrats; they are just tools to divide & conquer the people. The presidency is a joke! Trump is the wild card. Do I trust him? Not necessarily, but I definitely don't trust a lot of the other "candidates". It really doesn't matter who becomes president; it still doesn't give the American people any power. At least with Trump, I'll be greatly entertained & maybe, just maybe, he can shake up the system. Many are right; it's not about trusting Trump; it's a collective middle finger to the establishment. A side note: do you know how the middle finger got its meaning? It started during a war, when one side cut off the rebels' bow-shooting fingers. The rebels learned to shoot their bows w/their middle fingers and lifted their middle fingers in defiance at the next battle. Basically saying, no matter what you do, we will continue to fight for our freedom: the epitome of rebellion. Trump is the voice of some Americans. And that voice isn't saying we hate illegal immigrants lol. It's saying that we are sick of the corrupt political system, we know the game and we're done playing it. If that means making Trump president, so be it. Hell, if Bozo the clown was running, I would vote for him. It would more accurately portray what I think of the government and politicians lol. Trump isn't stupid, he gets it. He knows the more outrageous, the better. He knows it's all a joke. It's just amazing that you don't. [/QUOTE] He has money already, so why would he be corrupt? He has no political interests because he's an outsider. [QUOTE]Yes, I really do feel that Donald Trump has the interests of America at heart. He has already made his money and lived a life of glamour and fame, and another few billion dollars won't have any real impact on his quality of life. Rather, I genuinely believe that Trump feels the need to fight for the country he loves. There once was a time when people could actually feel proud to be Americans, and Trump comes from a generation that experienced that feeling. Now, many are embarrassed to be associated with this country. Jobs are being outsourced with reckless abandon and this country is literally being hollowed out. Economic statistics do no justice to this reality, and the average American knows this to be true.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]I have no expectations of Trump except that he will attempt to make America great again. I expect that he will take his drive for perfection on his properties and actually figure out how to make America better. Will he do it my way? No. Will he hold all my values? No. Will I like all his methods or results? No. He will expect greatness from us, he will tell us how to get to great, he will inspire people to be better than they are and have hope that their efforts will not be thwarted by bigger government. ... I have done tax returns for many, many years. For the "rich" and the poor, the successful and those whose businesses have failed. I have heard many promises from politicians about fixing our tax system, but none of them understand the reality of the pain or the stupidity of our tax laws like I believe Trump does. He uses the current system to pay minimal taxes, just like all my clients do. Good for him. Because of his history, I believe he could/would put H&R Block out of business, and kill my (tax) business too. I look forward to him being successful in that.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]I started taking him seriously when he explained why he wants to run for president: Simply because he wants to make America great again. You could say bull, he's just in it for himself. But being president is not very lucrative in comparison to his current position. He gave up hundreds of millions of dollars by leaving The Apprentice. He makes $400 million a year doing what he does right now. This tells me something about Trump. He truly wants to help. He isn't in it for the money because the opportunity cost of him being president instead of doing other things is massive. If he only wanted money he would not be running for president.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]And he is a moderate. The political parties have a huge problem where they always select the candidates that have the same exact views as them. Trump’s problem, according to the rest of the GOP, is that he wants single-payer health care and that he doesn't want to completely defund Planned Parenthood. I don't agree with him but why is it a bad thing to be moderate? A moderate has a special ability to be a liaison between the parties. In my opinion, a president should be the president, the leader, the idol of the entire population. That is not possible with someone who is far left or far right. That alienates 50% of the country. A moderate can be the president of everyone. He can compromise, give a little, take a little. Trump is capable of this. So are other candidates, but show me someone who knows negotiation like Trump. He can take two opposing views and negotiate until everyone is happy. (Trump is not partisan as his past switches between parties shows). You may say he flip-flops on ideas. To me that shows fluidity, the ability to see what the people want and understand their views and act on those. Current politicians could care less what we want.[/QUOTE] He's verbose and over-the-top, he's exactly the man we need right now to stick it to all those limp-livered politicians [QUOTE]To friends and family, I have long railed against the fact that America uses Presidential rejects and other back-bench political cronies as their chief negotiators. John Kerry (yes, the man I voted for) was out-negotiated time and time again by his Russian counterpart. And now, it appears that the same thing has happened once again with the Iran negotiators. This all ties back to the same fundamental thread: politicians have failed this country, leading to one loss after another. ... Trump supporters feel that a confident, strong-willed leader is needed to right the ship and to fight back against the perpetual decline this country has experienced for the last two-plus decades. And to be honest, I feel that Trump is our only hope in this next election. This is coming from someone who voted for Obama in the last election! Anyway, that's my story and the main reasons why I support Trump. I didn't plan out this response for days or try to make this all-inclusive, but this should give you a fair idea of why I, a liberal, support Donald Trump for president.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]He will not put up with the BS of the world dictators, not because he threatens to nuke them but because they don't know what he might do. He will negotiate and do it from strength.[/QUOTE] [editline]25th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=soulharvester;51100840]I genuinely don't believe he'll manage to get congress to approve of something that self-destructive though, and that kind of stuff has to go through congress. I don't care about or believe anything either of the candidates actually say, they both lie through their teeth, My opinion is based on what I believe they can actually accomplish. edit: Again, I'm not here to have this debate, they're both shit candidates, I'm just pointing out that it's ridiculous to state that the majority of Trump supporters attack Clinton supporters, and vice versa for that matter.[/QUOTE] How much of your views on Clinton comes from your own research of unbiased sources and how much of it comes from partisan blogs, imageboards and forums as well as videos like "Dirty Hillary lies for 10 minutes straight"? You seem to come to the conclusion you've reached based on your view of Hillary the person, not Hillary the political candidate or better yet Hillary the "here's the actual political policies being proposed that are actually relevant in a political debate". How much of your opinion is based on stuff you've read first had and how much of it is based on collected tid bits you've collected second-hand from other people?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51100693]You have to admit that an overwhelmingly large portion of Trump supporters attack Clinton supporters.[/QUOTE] Don't you have to provide evidence when you make a claim like this?

I can see why some people would be for Trump. "SJW's" admit it or not there is a rather sizable group of liberals with twitter or blogs who actively go out of their way to ruin people both socially and professionally and try to silence all opposition. As for America 'not winning', with Obamacare being a half-ass solution and corporations are able to outsource jobs while people at home who are losing them have no alternatives to bring income to the household. Sure, they can get a job in a different industry but as we have seen those jobs don't pay as well. We went from manufacturing to service focused and people can barely afford to put a roof over their head let alone afford healthcare I really can understand why they would feel that way. Is Trump the correct choice for the shrinking middle class? Obviously not but do you really think Clinton will go out of her way to help them when Obama failed? It's natural for people to look to their own interests first and those close to them.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51100693]You have to admit that an overwhelmingly large portion of Trump supporters attack Clinton supporters.[/QUOTE] Most of the videos I have seen online(live in NoDak, deep red state), shows people constantly spitting on Trump supporters, attacking them, and berating them in public for wearing anything symbolizing their support for Trump. Republicans all around don't seem to really give a shit about Clinton supporters. Most of the time they just take the piss out of them, and have a good laugh. That's about it.