9/11 anniversary: Muslim protesters burn US flag outside embassy in London - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Shibbey;32255230]They were protesting against America in London? Hmm.[/QUOTE] Wait, wait. So that means we have to declare war on England now, right? I'm confused.

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;32255520]I bring them up because It's another example of the double standards of society/the media, and has been in the news constantly for practically 2 weeks here. [/QUOTE] or maybe just people don't care? [QUOTE=Mort and Charon;32255520]And what I'm saying, that if a person of an ethnic majority built on land without planning permission, was given a long period of time to move with a warning, then refused to move and is going to get kicked out by bailiffs, they wouldn't get any media attention. Maybe a mention in the local Echo at most. But because these poor "travelers" are a minority we get all sob stories in the news how a woman doesn't know how she's going to get her 50" plasma moved and all her furniture, when they've broken the law plain and simple.[/QUOTE] you're just racist against gypsies really. good old fashioned racism

Who cares what a bunch of religious retards did to a flag which they paid for.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32255474]that's dumb they're just a group of idiots like every single other time. i remember the last controversy about large-scale muslim protests in the UK. turned out to be about 20 lads who fucked off back home at around 6 PM. they should be allowed to do this, though in the classical british way round the clock inspectors should assure the public that all safety regulations regarding flag burning have been met and that the ashes have been discarded in accordance with the Health and Safety acts.[/QUOTE] Just because it's a group of idiots doesn't mean it's ok for them to do it. We seem to have a big phobia over here of touching anything which has the potential to be politically incorrect even if the act itself is completely wrong and disrespectful. But least 2 metre cordon around flag burning pls. [editline]12th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Ond kaja;32255513]Uh, while burning a flag is disrespectful, it shouldn't be outlawed, because expressing hate towards a country (not race) completely falls within the bounds of free speech. Same thing applies to burning the Quran.[/QUOTE] Yeah but doing it on the anniversary come on. I'm not saying it should be illegal, but there are places to do it other than in London on the anniversary of the event :v:.

[QUOTE=Oblivion470;32255176]Dragging the whole religion down with their lack of brains.[/QUOTE] associating these morons with the whole religion is demonstrating a lack of brains if you ask me.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32255563]or maybe just people don't care? you're just racist against gypsies really. good old fashioned racism[/QUOTE] Point out ANY racism in that post, really.

[QUOTE=icemaz;32255568]Just because it's a group of idiots doesn't mean it's ok for them to do it.[/QUOTE] yeah it does. in england there's this whole issue where anytime something happens that people don't agree with they have to cry and write letters to the daily mail. learn something from americans, when something stupid happens get over it. who cares if muslim protestors say dumb shit and burn their own flags, just ignore it. the only reason it's in the news is because people eat it up and become all self-righteous. [editline]12th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mort and Charon;32255580]Point out ANY racism in that post, really.[/QUOTE] [quote]And what I'm saying, that if a person of an ethnic majority built on land without planning permission, was given a long period of time to move with a warning, then refused to move and is going to get kicked out by bailiffs, they wouldn't get any media attention. Maybe a mention in the local Echo at most. But because these poor "travelers" are a minority we get all sob stories in the news how a woman doesn't know how she's going to get her 50" plasma moved and all her furniture, when they've broken the law plain and simple.[/quote] -white vs everyone else mentality -self-victimization as the true persecuted -usage of scare quotes to demonize -application of racial stereotypes you definitely have some trouble with gypsies considering you just randomly brought them up when it wasn't even relevant. either that or you secretly love gypsies but are ashamed of it so you overcompensate.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32255612] learn something from americans, when something stupid happens get over it.[/QUOTE] You mean like the fact this happened on the anniversary of 9/11! You don't get over anything at all, and you seem to push it off onto the rest of us. And I care because this is my country and I live here, I don't want people doing dumb shit like this.

[QUOTE=icemaz;32255675]You mean like the fact this happened on the anniversary of 9/11! You don't get over anything at all, and you seem to push it off onto the rest of us. And I care because this is my country and I live here, I don't want people doing dumb shit like this.[/QUOTE] Well, you live in a free country so they are allowed to have free speech whether you like it or not.

Those who are burning the flag are expressing hate against a country that protects the right to burn the flag...

[QUOTE=icemaz;32255675]You mean like the fact this happened on the anniversary of 9/11! You don't get over anything at all, and you seem to push it off onto the rest of us.[/QUOTE] i was born in britain so you can't even go that route. [QUOTE=icemaz;32255675]And I care because this is my country and I live here, I don't want people doing dumb shit like this.[/QUOTE] too bad, as long as there are other people on the face of the earth who don't agree with you you're gonna have to grow up and tolerate it. all they did is burn a flag and yell out dumb stuff. were you even in london when it happened? i'm 100% opposed to every single thing these people stand for and that is exactly why they should be allowed to express their opinions. in the end if we as the west are going to be liberal, we should be liberals.

[QUOTE=reedbo;32255704]Those who are burning the flag are expressing hate against a country that protects the right to burn the flag...[/QUOTE]Ironically political powers in the U.S. want to prohibit people from burning the flag of the U.S.

How did I know just from the title that thisispain would be posting walls of text trying to make him look good?

and if anything the political correctness blame goes to the majority of people who've created it as a way to defer blame and guarantee themselves the lie that they have the right to not be offended. sorry you don't.

I hate when people don't see beyond a burning flag and won't look beneath the underlying reasons. There are BIG reasons as to why they are burning the American flag

[QUOTE=EDDY TT;32255776]How did I know just from the title that thisispain would be posting walls of text trying to make him look good?[/QUOTE] uhm who are you again? [editline]12th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mooe94;32255790]I hate when people don't see beyond a burning flag and won't look beneath the underlying reasons. There are BIG reasons as to why they are burning the American flag[/QUOTE] baby steps first people need to see why anyone should be allowed to burn the american flag.

[QUOTE=Mooe94;32255790]I hate when people don't see beyond a burning flag and won't look beneath the underlying reasons. There are BIG reasons as to why they are burning the American flag[/QUOTE] The reasons behind it are not incomprehensible, don't act like they are.

[QUOTE=EDDY TT;32255776]How did I know just from the title that thisispain would be posting walls of text trying to make him look good?[/QUOTE]I'm going to question your reading capability if you call his posts "walls of text". They are mostly composed of 3-6 sentences, not that long if you ask me.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32255732]i was born in britain so you can't even go that route.[/quote] Ok sorry but that has absolutely no relevance to what I posted [QUOTE=thisispain;32255732]too bad, as long as there are other people on the face of the earth who don't agree with you you're gonna have to grow up and tolerate it. all they did is burn a flag and yell out dumb stuff. [B]were you even in london when it happened? [/B][/QUOTE] That is also the most dumb fuck argument I have ever heard in my life, sorry I had better things to be doing than to hang around watching a group of idiots burn a flag and be completely disrespectful for those british nationals that died. They should be allowed to express their opinion I agree, what i'm saying is not in London on the anniversary of an event which took 67 british lives. It's just really silly to say that they should be allowed to do it no matter what. Just being liberal doesn't mean we can let people shit all over what we believe.

[QUOTE=icemaz;32255838]Just being liberal doesn't mean we can let people shit all over what we believe.[/QUOTE] yeah actually it does

Uh, yes, the point of free speech is not limiting others over what they can express.

[QUOTE=icemaz;32255838]Ok sorry but that has absolutely no relevance to what I posted That is also the most dumb fuck argument I have ever heard in my life, sorry I had better things to be doing than to hang around watching a group of idiots burn a flag and be completely disrespectful for those british nationals that died. They should be allowed to express their opinion I agree, what i'm saying is not in London on the anniversary of an event which took 67 british lives. It's just really silly to say that they should be allowed to do it no matter what. Just being liberal doesn't mean we can let people shit all over what we believe.[/QUOTE] Ironically its religion which shits all over liberalism

Maybe they're angry at Israel, maybe they're angry at the US for supporting Israel, maybe they're angry about the US invading iraq, maybe they're angry about the US violating other countries sovereignty.. Maybe they're angry at US bases in arab nations.. They are rightfully angry and this is the same shit that led to 9/11 in the first place, and nobody wants to change our foreign policy. They may be radicals, but they're the people driving more support towards terrorist organizations who have the same grievances.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32255823]The reasons behind it are not incomprehensible, don't act like they are.[/QUOTE] Wait, what do you mean? That the reasons ARE incomprehensible or that they are not? Because I agree with the latter, they are comprehensible if you just get off your ass and do some reading and perhaps change your perspective on things. The world isn't based on good and evil

[QUOTE=Sanius;32255850]yeah actually it does[/QUOTE] Well it shouldn't. I don't get why we couldn't have stopped them on this ONE day.

I don't give a shit if people think XYZ is racist or wrong or good or bad. It's getting done regardless because its practical.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32255807]uhm who are you again?[/QUOTE] Someone who doesn't give a fuck enough to start to or argue over religion.

[QUOTE=icemaz;32255875]Well it shouldn't. I don't get why we couldn't have stopped them on this ONE day.[/QUOTE] "we" didn't stop them because "we" aren't barbarians who can't stand the thought that there are people who have dissenting opinions and views

[QUOTE=lukepker;32255868]Ironically its religion which shits all over liberalism[/QUOTE] Correction: it's the people who practice certain religion who shits all over ______ edit: I'm going to bed before I uselessly start debating on a internet forum for hours resulting in a tiring day in school. Night to you all

[QUOTE=icemaz;32255838]That is also the most dumb fuck argument I have ever heard in my life, sorry I had better things to be doing than to hang around watching a group of idiots burn a flag and be completely disrespectful for those british nationals that died.[/quote] So as an American, am I not allowed to be disrespectful towards our armed forces (not that I am, just a hypothetical)? Am I legally not allowed to be critical of them or deface images of them that I legally own? How is this any different than flag burning? [QUOTE=icemaz;32255838]They should be allowed to express their opinion I agree, what i'm saying is not in London on the anniversary of an event which took 67 british lives. It's just really silly to say that they should be allowed to do it no matter what. Just being liberal doesn't mean we can let people shit all over what we believe.[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech should not be dependent on what day you feel is appropriate.