New York City's Mayor Wants to Ban Sugary Drinks over 16oz - Polidicks

[QUOTE=HorizoN;36148715]What the hell is 16oz in metric? 1 litre?[/QUOTE] almost 0,5L

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;36141809]Yeah I also really think you should measure them in liters instead like the rest of the world which is reasonable does.[/QUOTE] We do. [img]http://munchymart.com/images/dr%20pepper.jpg[/img]

I'm a hardcore leftist/democrat/socialist/etc, but this is nanny state bullshit, and completely ineffectual. The true cokeaholics buy in bulk and drink at home.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;36148963]I'm a hardcore leftist/democrat/socialist/etc, but this is nanny state bullshit, and completely ineffectual. The true cokeaholics buy in bulk and drink at home.[/QUOTE] Nothing like leaving CostCo with 50 bottles.

[QUOTE=Paramud;36149076]Nothing like leaving CostCo with 50 bottles.[/QUOTE] Two liter bottles of pepsi for ninety-nine pence at co-op, buy the [I]whole damned shelf[/I].

Yeah, sounds great, banning large drinks in the largest city in america that gets millions in tourist dollars! Sounds great!

The NYC Government is a joke, especially Mayor Bloomberg.

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;36149216]Two liter bottles of pepsi for ninety-nine pence at co-op, buy the [I]whole damned shelf[/I].[/QUOTE] Oh man, we get ours for about 82 cents here, which would be about 53 pence. Not including the deposit for recycling.

[QUOTE=Paramud;36149383]Oh man, we get ours for about 82 cents here, which would be about 53 pence. Not including the deposit for recycling.[/QUOTE] US cents? It cost $2 here

Don't ban my ability to buy a large drink on a hot summer day just because fat slobs get them every day.

[quote] “I think that’s what the public wants the mayor to do.” [B]More than half of city adults are overweight or obese, according to the Health Department.[/B][/quote] You mean less than half of the public, Mr. Mayor?

Logically you have to ban not drinks in 16oz but containers in 16oz. Every container that could hold over 16oz would have to banned otherwise 7/11 or other stores can just be like "Bring your own container, fill it up and pay" Bring my dumptrunk and fill it to the brim with Slurpee drink. Not only to mention 16oz is less then half a liter right? Bye bye one liters,two liters and idiots who like flat soda (3 liters)

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;36141809]Yeah I also really think you should measure them in liters instead like the rest of the world which is reasonable does.[/QUOTE] we do measure it in liters. only small quantities under 1l get measured in ounces because 16 ounces makes more sense than 473.176473ml gas is literally the only thing we measure by gallon [editline]31st May 2012[/editline] he lost the fat vote [editline]31st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;36150518]US cents? It cost $2 here[/QUOTE] seriously? our two liter bottles of coke are 90 cents your shit is inflated

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;36150518]US cents? It cost $2 here[/QUOTE] Scandinavian cents. Yeah, American currency. We buy the cheap knockoff brands, and they're worth it. Around here the namebrand stuff is usually a couple of bucks. [QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36151161]gas is literally the only thing we measure by gallon[/QUOTE] Not exactly, milk is usually sold by the gallon.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyS2TUH11Q0[/media] Sort of like what this guy is talking about?

[QUOTE=J!NX;36141866]Next we'll see a complete national ban, and then people bootlegging soda and then people will be arrested for soda selling crimes. This is going to be outrageous![/QUOTE] I would love to visit a soda speakeasy.

Better go modify my car to fit bootlegging standards.

I live in New York. (State, not the city) and it's literally the only thing they're talking about on the news. It's fucking stupid to tell people what to put into their own bodies like that.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/YMjtG.jpg[/IMG] I'm okay with this

[QUOTE=Lambeth;36155475][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/YMjtG.jpg[/IMG] I'm okay with this[/QUOTE] Wait a fucking minute, coffee and tea in containers bigger than 16 oz are prohibited but milkshakes are a-okay regardless of container size? How the fuck does that make any sense?

Hahaha. This does not make any sense.

good intentions gone horribly wrong. if you want to stop obesity you have to hit it at it's core and educate people and parents on what you do to avoid it in children. only then will you have removed it completely, laws like these only turn innocents into potential criminals

[QUOTE=Bobie;36155594]good intentions gone horribly wrong. if you want to stop obesity you have to hit it at it's core and educate people and parents on what you do to avoid it in children. only then will you have removed it completely, laws like these only turn innocents into potential criminals[/QUOTE] Education only goes so far. When coke, pepsi, etc. are cheaper than fruit juice or milk, the problem lies in the pricing in addition to education. I don't see anything wrong with taxing it, like the sin tax for cigarettes and whatnot. Increasing cigarette prices leads to a noticeable decrease in the number of smokers; doing the same for sugary drinks seems like a good enough idea.

[QUOTE=Led Zeppelin;36155648]Education only goes so far. When coke, pepsi, etc. are cheaper than fruit juice or milk, the problem lies in the pricing in addition to education. I don't see anything wrong with taxing it, like the sin tax for cigarettes and whatnot. Increasing cigarette prices leads to a noticeable decrease in the number of smokers; doing the same for sugary drinks seems like a good enough idea.[/QUOTE] education only goes so far? i'm not talking about turning up to school and being told by a teacher that obesity is bad, im talking the very condition of society itself. the reason alot of people are quitting smoking and numbers of smokers going down in western society is because of the huge advertisement campaigns and social stigma against those who smoke from a young age, if the same is implied by parents and school systems then that would be the end of voluntary obesity as you know it. price effects nothing, because anyone who's addicted will tell you that they'd still pay for cigarettes even if the price went up by 10%

[QUOTE=Bobie;36155729]education only goes so far? i'm not talking about turning up to school and being told by a teacher that obesity is bad, im talking the very condition of society itself. the reason alot of people are quitting smoking and numbers of smokers going down in western society is because of the huge advertisement campaigns and social stigma against those who smoke from a young age, if the same is implied by parents and school systems then that would be the end of voluntary obesity as you know it. price effects nothing, because anyone who's addicted will tell you that they'd still pay for cigarettes even if the price went up by 10%[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter if there's a social stigma or not. At the end of the day, if it's cheaper to feed your family with soda, chips, and KFC than fresh fruit and vegetables, people are going to take that option regardless of how educated they are. If they can't afford it they can't buy it. And that's incorrect. Cigarette price increases absolutely lead to lower cigarette sales and consumption. [URL]http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/137936.php[/URL] Fourth paragraph [URL]http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.88.9.1389[/URL] [URL]http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0146.pdf[/URL] (Not as credible a source, but the quotes from Philip Morris are interesting, as well as the sources they link towards the end)

[QUOTE=Led Zeppelin;36155805]It doesn't matter if there's a social stigma or not. At the end of the day, if it's cheaper to feed your family with soda, chips, and KFC than fresh fruit and vegetables, people are going to take that option regardless of how educated they are. If they can't afford it they can't buy it. And that's incorrect. Cigarette price increases absolutely lead to lower cigarette sales and consumption. [URL]http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/137936.php[/URL] Fourth paragraph [URL]http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.88.9.1389[/URL] [URL]http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0146.pdf[/URL] (Not as credible a source, but the quotes from Philip Morris are interesting, as well as the sources they link towards the end)[/QUOTE] ah i stand corrected, or at least to some degree. youth smoking being reduced would make sense, as if they have a limited source of money then having no money to buy cigarettes would be a clear barrier for them. it seems however, those with money aren't really effected at all so the problem lies within the ability to actually acquire it without causing yourself serious problems or not. i don't necessarily know about soda chips and kfc being cheaper than water and alternative healthy meals but then i guess you could make a viable argument for both sides. it would be obvious to me that water is cheaper than coca cola for example, and if you bought long lasting ingredients like rice in bulk it would probably work out way cheaper than having fast food every day. but then that too comes under education, educating people to find ways of eating that are cheaper than kfc. you don't seem to understand that education can mean [i]anything[/i], it would just simply be an umbrella term for the whole variety of ways governments can teach parents and kids to lead healthier lives.

"how dare you little fucks purchase your favorite soft drinks in large amounts"

I don't know how it's in US, but a small bottle around here costs as much as a big one.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;36155475]I'm okay with this[/QUOTE] The intentions might be decent enough but I've never quite liked the idea of the government stepping in on matters such as this, especially when it can be circumvented so easily. Does anyone else find it a little odd/unsettling that (an admittedly small) part of the government is trying to tell you what you can and cannot consume?

A 0.5-litre bottle of coke costs $2.77 in Norway if you buy from a supermarket, but can go up to $4.89 in a convenience store.