After Charlottesville, ACLU will no longer defend hate groups that protest with firearms

[Tufty 🌹]

[QUOTE=Hilton;52591042]It's honestly disgusting how much freedom has been lost to the oppression of the government because they didn't follow the words of the founding fuckin' fathers.[/QUOTE]

The Founding Fathers weren't omniscient, there's really no reason to follow their words as gospel if they're no longer appropriate

[paramud]

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52591950]whether you like it or not, this is what the second amendment does. it lets everyone arm themselves against the government if they feel threatened by it, regardless of their political affiliations or moral compass.[/QUOTE]

I'm curious, do you look at armed gangs as constitutional forms of rebellion?

[EmperorScorpious]

[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;52611207]The Founding Fathers weren't omniscient, there's really no reason to follow their words as gospel if they're no longer appropriate[/QUOTE]

Oppressive governments are timeless. They will always come and people will always have to fight them.

[Kljunas]

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52586847]isn't this literally the point of the second amendment, so that the people can outgun the government if necessary?[/QUOTE]

If you take up arms against the government you're not following the law anymore anyways.

[EmperorScorpious]

[QUOTE=Paramud;52611292]I'm curious, do you look at armed gangs as constitutional forms of rebellion?[/QUOTE]

There is no such thing as a "constitutional rebellion". There's just rebellion.

And no, they're not unless they're specifically formed to fight the government.