Knifeman screams 'this is for Syria' in London tube machete attack - Polidicks

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49254383]Except the amount of mobilizable idiots has fallen drastically compared to times before internet. Don't be so dramatic. You're spouting same crap these idiots read and believe.[/QUOTE] Easier to educate yourself with access to almost any kind of news... But very easy to isolate yourself with only like-minded fellow extremists and withdraw from society. You only access information that you choose to. [editline]5th December 2015[/editline] [url]http://news.met.police.uk/news/counter-terrorism-command-now-investigating-incident-at-leytonstone-140905?utm_campaign=mm_email_notification&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid[/url] Victim probably okay [QUOTE]One man has sustained serious knife injuries; these are not believed at this stage to be life-threatening. Two other people have sustained minor injuries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49254021]You can't stop crazy people. If it wasn't Syria, this person would have snapped for something else. Crazy people cannot be predicted or reasoned with.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's always that simple. Crazy people often [I]became[/I] crazy, sooner or later.

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49254421]Easier to educate yourself with access to almost any kind of news... But very easy to isolate yourself with only like-minded fellow extremists and withdraw from society. You only access information that you choose to. [/QUOTE] Back in the day you only accessed the information you were given pretty much. Now it's a choice, back then it wasn't. Of course there are idiots, there always will be, but I'm pretty sure as we get access to more info, the amount of idiots falls, even if some of them choose to isolate themselves.

There seems to be a trend of ideas and mentalities that people get into their head that they know nothing about, yet these ideas spread like a virus, almost infecting other peoples minds. Richard Dawkins used the term "[I]meme[/I]" to describe the way ideas can spread from person to person, much like certain genes can spread from generation to generation (this makes sense when you think about about what we would describe as a [I]"meme"[/I] in this day and age). I think what we are talking about here is a perfect example of the definition use of the word. Religion is also a great example of how an idea and ideology can spread between people, but lets not get into a religious debate.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49254471]Back in the day you only accessed the information you were given pretty much. Now it's a choice, back then it wasn't. Of course there are idiots, there always will be, but I'm pretty sure as we get access to more info, the amount of idiots falls, even if some of them choose to isolate themselves.[/QUOTE] But back then, people had their views usually moderated by an inability to contact and find fellow extremists. Now they can find supporters for whatever insane ideology they hold anywhere.

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49254281]so you want to carry a gun to stop a nutjob before they do this? yeah, that makes sense. Also, carrying guns leads to more gun violence then it solves. Instead this guy would probably had a gun and would have shot several people.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the taser worked really well in the video. If people are too worried about being politically correct and let these terrorists in a country you should carry a weapon to defend yourself.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49254518]Yeah, the taser worked really well in the video. If people are too worried about being politically correct and let these terrorists in a country you should carry a weapon to defend yourself.[/QUOTE] If he had a gun, we would have seen three dead minimum and a dead suspect instead of three injured (one seriously) and an arrested suspect.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49254518]Yeah, the taser worked really well in the video. If people are too worried about being politically correct and let these terrorists in a country you should carry a weapon to defend yourself.[/QUOTE] Yeah, cause that works so well for America

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49254492]But back then, people had their views usually moderated by an inability to contact and find fellow extremists. Now they can find supporters for whatever insane ideology they hold anywhere.[/QUOTE] You didn't have to, depending on how far back we go, extremism as we know today was average life back then.

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49254534]If he had a gun, we would have seen three dead minimum and a dead suspect instead of three injured (one seriously) and an arrested suspect.[/QUOTE] We would have had a dead terrorist, what are you talking about? [QUOTE=Valiantttt;49254539]Yeah, cause that works so well for America[/QUOTE] I know you're not from here but yeah, it does. At least people have the opportunity to defend themselves.

We're heading for Christmas 2015: global terror alert.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49254573]We would have had a dead terrorist, what are you talking about?[/QUOTE] Not only the terrorist though.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49254573]We would have had a dead terrorist, what are you talking about? I know you're not from here but yeah, it does. At least people have the opportunity to defend themselves.[/QUOTE] you think it works well in America lmao immediately after a shooting killing 14 people immediately after thousands of deaths and a mass shooting almost EVERY DAY I'm the sort of person who defends America a lot against all of the US-bashing that goes on in Europe but you're like the posterchild for why people treat the US as a joke to use as an example to avoid

Hey kids is the Santa coming down the chimney?? Nope, it's a ISIS jihadist , and apparently we've all been very naughty westerners.

Only thing that stops a bad terrorist is a good terrorist, legalise suicide belts 2016

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49254594]you think it works well in America lmao immediately after a shooting killing 14 people immediately after thousands of deaths and a mass shooting almost EVERY DAY I'm the sort of person who defends America a lot against all of the US-bashing that goes on in Europe but you're like the posterchild for why people treat the US as a joke to use as an example to avoid[/QUOTE] All in gun free zones :^)

I would highly suggest that if you live in area that is being targeted by some sort of terrorist threat, please carry something to defend yourself with. Anything from mace to a knife can help you out. Please, stay safe everyone. Last thing I wanna hear is that more defenseless civilians are killed.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;49254662]I would highly suggest that if you live in area that is being targeted by some sort of terrorist threat, please carry something to defend yourself with. Anything from mace to a knife can help you out. Please, stay safe everyone. Last thing I wanna hear is that more defenseless civilians are killed.[/QUOTE] Yeah, lets encourage people trying to play hero and get themselves killed or injured. Best thing to do in a situation like this? Run and call the fucking police, let them do their jobs. If you can't run, you likely had no chance of defending yourself anyway. And carrying a knife or mace is fucking suspicious as fuck and will make it harder actually knowing who the crazed knifeman is.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;49254662]I would highly suggest that if you live in area that is being targeted by some sort of terrorist threat, please carry something to defend yourself with. Anything from mace to a knife can help you out. Please, stay safe everyone. Last thing I wanna hear is that more defenseless civilians are killed.[/QUOTE] I would disagree with that in the UK, if you get caught with anything like a knife you are looking at up 4 years in jail and a £5k fine

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;49254662]I would highly suggest that if you live in area that is being targeted by some sort of terrorist threat, please carry something to defend yourself with. Anything from mace to a knife can help you out. Please, stay safe everyone. Last thing I wanna hear is that more defenseless civilians are killed.[/QUOTE] I would suggest people learn CPR and combat casualty care.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49254518]Yeah, the taser worked really well in the video. If people are too worried about being politically correct and let these terrorists in a country you should carry a weapon to defend yourself.[/QUOTE] No thanks I don't want to see my country turn in to a fucking shithole with daily shootings like the US.

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49254539]Yeah, cause that works so well for America[/QUOTE] Considering gun homicides are still going down and the amount of legal guns still increases, I'd say something good is happening, although slowly. [editline]6th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;49254791]nah dude i live here and this wild west power fantasy dream bullshit we have going on is fucking stupid[/QUOTE] Only a few idiots have that sort of mindset. Most people that do carry don't actively look for crimes so they might have an opportunity to shoot someone. Jesus. [editline]6th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=SomeDumbShit;49254796]No thanks I don't want to see my country turn in to a fucking shithole with daily shootings like the US.[/QUOTE] I too, want police that barely respond to burglaries anymore.

look the only justification that you ever come up with properly in your shitty gun debates is a) culture and b) difficulty of enforcement of removal of hundreds of millions of guns because every time your stupid bullshit 'good guy with a gun' thing is knocked down fairly quickly. We don't have a gun culture and we don't have millions of guns flowing around, even criminally, so your arguments are basically pointless

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;49254829]Considering gun homicides are still going down and the amount of legal guns still increases, I'd say something good is happening, although slowly. [editline]6th December 2015[/editline] Only a few idiots have that sort of mindset. Most people that do carry don't actively look for crimes so they might have an opportunity to shoot someone. Jesus. [editline]6th December 2015[/editline] I too, want police that barely respond to burglaries anymore.[/QUOTE] So because I don't want everyone running around with guns I'm clearly in support of the police being rammed by budget cuts, clearly. This is also ignoring the fact that right now the vast majority of burglaries aren't committed by people holding guns, do you really sincerely think that if we legalized guns the only people with them would be the people defending their homes? The police wouldn't be responding to burglaries, they'd be responding to shootings and murders instead.

Holy fuck, my friend was on a train towards this station at this same time. She could have been on the same train as this guy. She's sort of freaking out about that, but she's fine now. Damn.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;49254662]I would highly suggest that if you live in area that is being targeted by some sort of terrorist threat, please carry something to defend yourself with. Anything from mace to a knife can help you out. Please, stay safe everyone. Last thing I wanna hear is that more defenseless civilians are killed.[/QUOTE] like you're gonna knife-fight the terrorist in a probably pretty crowded area with no training and a weapon drastically shortened for concealment? you're better off learning CPR and making tourniquets for the people who got stabbed and/or the ones you inevitably slice up trying to fight a guy who probably knows a fuck of a lot more about murdering than you do

Yeah, no. The UK doesn't have a gun culture like we do. They do not need any more guns. They are doing just fine without them.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49255005]Yeah, no. The UK doesn't have a gun culture like we do. They do not need any more guns. They are doing just fine without them.[/QUOTE] Yes, the US likes their guns. Europe doesn't like them. That's all fine.

These sort of incidents should not be reported by media. And any media who does report this should be sued for fuckload of money.

[QUOTE=Rumbler;49254030]I am in desperate need for an head-in-the-sand apologist forum-resident to reconfirm this is not starting to become indicative of a deeper problem. Namely, the clashing cultures, and the resulting non-integration and social-segregation and tensions. MDeceiver? BDA maybe?[/QUOTE] yo i'll take the bait no, 4 people getting attacked with a machete is not becoming 'indicative of a deeper problem' the vast majority of terrorism that the UK has experienced in the last 30 years was committed by IRA members, yet we weren't suddenly preventing the movements of Irish people into the UK and thinking about 'the greater irish problem', it was a question of politics within the country itself (and before you go "ireland is a white, western nation there's no clashing culture!!!!" as far as reasons for terrorism and integration go, try the UK occupying their country in the eyes of terrorists, and having what they considered a military occupation of northern ireland for your reason - you also had a heavily religious aspect due to catholicism and protestantism clashing on essentially a border line) we've not experienced a gigantic rise in muslim population in the past 10 years, differences in demographics have been pretty negligible in the past decade so at what percentage does this 'deeper problem' start? 5%, 6%? in the period of 2001-2011 the muslim population in the UK only rose 1.7%, with about a million more muslims. why has this suddenly become a 'deeper problem' with such a tiny increase? do you need to post another propaganda video of brown people acting bad to get your points across