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[QUOTE=Contag;33283081]Bringing this back to you because one can actually argue with you Tinos just hemorrhages his idiocy into the keyboard to the internet, and Hoodoo is a mute you agreed that the American revolution wasn't peaceful yet (I presume) you feel the American revolution was a good thing, so obviously domestic protests which are not peaceful can be good Do you agree that the massive bailout spending by bush and then obama was wrong? caused [I]in part[/I] (I figure you'll disagree with this, but you can't deny it played some part) by the massive deregulation of the finance and banking sector, and bad corporate practices especially RE: risk assessment shouldn't these people be accountable in some way, even if only due to their negligence?[/QUOTE] This is a revolution now?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283086]dump cement into them[/QUOTE] Occupy jail?

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[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283095]I actually have to give Occupy protesters worldwide a shitload of credit, they've remained extremely peaceful compared to the police attacking them (because that's what it is, nobody sugar coat it) There's obviously some semblance of organization at these protests for them to not just devolve into a bunch of looting and burning cars[/QUOTE] I agree. Even after the incident in Oakland, things have remained fairly peaceful (in comparison to other protests across the globe).

[QUOTE=Glaber;33283098]You may know a little, but maybe you should have bookmarked it. I believe this is what you're refferring to? [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1[/url] The Wall Street Occupiers became unpeaceful long ago.[/QUOTE] If you think this is violent protesting you are insane. I mean fuck, the Egyptian revolution last year was considered very peaceful and almost 500 people died. Besides police brutality and vandalism/thievery, where is this violence you are talking about?

[QUOTE=3com111;33283083]Storming City hall would be some interesting news coverage. But the protesters are too peaceful to do that. Which is why we won't ever see protests like we saw in the middle east. We just don't have the guts to face our opposition with the same force they're meeting us with.[/QUOTE] I disagree. The protesters are being civilized to show that we can be civilized. If they need to turn to more...stern...measures, I'm sure they will. Granted, they probably won't be the same people. The one thing I've noticed is while I hugely support and agree with the movement's cause, the people piss me off. They're mostly animefags who are far enough ahead in college coursework so they don't have to go to class. If we got real Americans out there this could really make a difference. Storm city hall. They're legally allowed to.

[QUOTE=Glaber;33283098]You may know a little, but maybe you should have bookmarked it. I believe this is what you're refferring to? [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1[/url] The Wall Street Occupiers became unpeaceful long ago.[/QUOTE] That's not even the point though. Its not that they're being unpeaceful, they just aren't on publicly owned land. I don't know if they're being "unpeaceful" or not, I like to believe they are being peaceful, even though I don't agree with them, but this has nothing to do with them being peaceful or not.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283052]City owned is actually a very good idea They should barricade themselves in city hall and block streets off, that's all city owned right[/QUOTE] You could do that, yeah. Though I'm pretty sure you need proper paperwork and can only do it for a certain length of time. Either way it would go against the Occupation/Revolution ideal of the whole movement because it would require a certain level of legality. Again, all I'm saying is that this was bound to happen.

[QUOTE=Glaber;33283098]You may know a little, but maybe you should have bookmarked it. I believe this is what you're refferring to? [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1[/url] The Wall Street Occupiers became unpeaceful long ago.[/QUOTE] Unpeaceful? Is that even a word? Not peaceful =/= violent.

[QUOTE=Glaber;33283098]The Wall Street Occupiers became unpeaceful long ago.[/QUOTE] Really Glaber, is that so? I had no idea these protesters were violent! Oh my, you've just opened my eyes! But perhaps, just [I]perhaps,[/I] you've got some kind of confirmation bias where any time you see a piece that says 'Occupy protesters do x violent action', you immediately say "Yep, I knew it. Tea Party was never like this." and don't even give [B]one single fuck[/B] about its credibility. Just [I]PERHAPS.[/I]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283095] There's obviously some semblance of organization at these protests for them to not just devolve into a bunch of looting and burning cars[/QUOTE] This is right though. The whole Oakland thing had me nervous for awhile. That's not to say I don't feel bad for the police that are just doing their jobs and not doing anything wrong.

I insist on going to bed sometime soon, yet again i don't wanna miss anything.:suicide:

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;33283117]That's not even the point though. Its not that they're being unpeaceful, they just aren't on publicly owned land. I don't know if they're being "unpeaceful" or not, I like to believe they are being peaceful, even though I don't agree with them, but this has nothing to do with them being peaceful or not.[/QUOTE] About the private land thing, I'm fairly certain there is some form of bylaw in New York that requires owners of private parkland to make it available to the public and not discriminate against who can use it, I definitely remember reading this

[QUOTE=OvB;33283126]This is right though. The whole Oakland thing had me nervous for awhile.[/QUOTE] Well, it [i]was[/i] Oakland

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;33283103]This is a revolution now?[/QUOTE] At what point does coerced reform become a revolution?

[QUOTE=Bad Reading;33283136]I insist on going to bed sometime soon, yet again i don't wanna miss anything.:suicide:[/QUOTE] They're doing it at 2AM and blocking out the media for a reason - they know there are going to be cops doing all sorts of illegal things and they don't want anyone to see it.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283144]About the private land thing, I'm fairly certain there is some form of bylaw in New York that requires owners of private parkland to make it available to the public and not discriminate against who can use it, I definitely remember reading this[/QUOTE] They said it must remain open 24 hours a day.

This protesting doesn't work anyway. The whole moving to credit unions thing was a much better idea than this type of thing. Vote with your money, that's the only language these corporations understand. The sooner these protesters learn this, the sooner they'll have these guys by the balls.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;33283159]This protesting doesn't work anyway. The whole moving to credit unions thing was a much better idea than this type of thing. Vote with your money, that's the only language these corporations understand. The sooner these protesters learn this, the sooner they'll have these guys by the balls.[/QUOTE] I feel like it brought a decent level of awareness, which can accomplish a lot if used correctly.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;33283159]This protesting doesn't work anyway. The whole moving to credit unions thing was a much better idea than this type of thing. Vote with your money, that's the only language these corporations understand. The sooner these protesters learn this, the sooner they'll have these guys by the balls.[/QUOTE] It works better than the "go home at night and come back to do marches" idea I've heard thrown around.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;33283159]This protesting doesn't work anyway. The whole moving to credit unions thing was a much better idea than this type of thing. Vote with your money, that's the only language these corporations understand. The sooner these protesters learn this, the sooner they'll have these guys by the balls.[/QUOTE] The protesters NEED to keep the movement in the public eye. Their job is to garner more public support. If they disappear, the entire movement disappears. That rush to credit unions wouldn't have happened without them and nothing more will happen if they just go away.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283144]About the private land thing, I'm fairly certain there is some form of bylaw in New York that requires owners of private parkland to make it available to the public and not discriminate against who can use it, I definitely remember reading this[/QUOTE] Right, but they can't camp in it or bring camping gear or any of that. It was all in the thread a month ago. We had this discussion already.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;33283159]This protesting doesn't work anyway. The whole moving to credit unions thing was a much better idea than this type of thing. Vote with your money, [b]that's the only language these corporations understand.[/b] The sooner these protesters learn this, the sooner they'll have these guys by the balls.[/QUOTE] That's pretty true. They won't see this as a threat until they start losing money.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283178]The protesters NEED to keep the movement in the public eye. Their job is to garner more public support. If they disappear, the entire movement disappears. That rush to credit unions wouldn't have happened without them and nothing more will happen if they just go away.[/QUOTE] I guess, fair point. Then they need to focus more on the "voting with their money" aspect then, instead of just yelling. If they are truly the "99%", then taking all their money out of the banks and putting it elsewhere would truly influence banks to reform. If it doesn't, then it's not true they're the "99%".

[QUOTE=Glaber;33283098] The Wall Street Occupiers became unpeaceful long ago.[/QUOTE] [quote]A Crown Heights man was charged with sexually assaulting a protester at the park raising the level of public discussion of lawlessness at the demonstrations. Stories, mostly anecdotal, are being used as an excuse by those wanting the protesters to leave. Protesters use de-escalation techniques, talking down or blocking with their bodies those people throwing punches. In more tense situations, protesters encircle troublemakers and usher them out. But many times, those kicked out or arrested return[/quote] Heavens, so "unpeaceful" Most violence at protests is caused by arseholes who use it as a cover to get away with shit that would normally get them in trouble with the law.

Man I wish the police would hurry up and rush them so I can go back to playing skyrim :v:

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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33283012]Well yes, there does have to be an alternative. We have a constitutional right to protest, are you just going to say, look at the protesters and go "Sorry there's no place for you here"?[/QUOTE] And risk getting attacked? Are you Loco in the Coco? [url]http://m.nbcnewyork.com/nbcnewyork/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=3iIZsg4N&full=true#display[/url] [B]EMT Assaulted at Occupy Wall Street[/B] [url]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/occupiers_terrorize_us_eatery_o4dKzxi3n03WyJWAJu4AhO#ixzz1d8PXCyQ5[/url] [B]Occupiers terrorize us: eatery[/B] [url]http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/11/02/nypd-officer-crime-sexual-assault-at-occupywallstreet-more-widespread-than-even-they-think/[/url] [B]NYPD officer: crime and sexual assault ‘more widespread than even they think’[/B]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283178]The protesters NEED to keep the movement in the public eye. Their job is to garner more public support. If they disappear, the entire movement disappears. That rush to credit unions wouldn't have happened without them and nothing more will happen if they just go away.[/QUOTE] It's just so sad that if you talk to a commoner about the issue, they wouldn't have an idea what the movement is about. All the uneducated masses here in America is just terrible. I'd say the mass media and corporations did their job about silencing their voices. However, I will not lose hope. This is a movement that can easily fall to either side of starting a change or ending on a horrendous note

Glaber I don't agree with the protesters either but you can't call this protest violent. There are a few that suck yes but that's like saying all cops are bad because there are some that are bad.